Hamills style and headlock face punching bag move! - Fight Forum - MMA - UFC - Boxing - K1

ge master · 09-12-2007, 10:04 PM

Okay, the fight has been overshadowed obviously. However, it was amazing! I was really impressed with Hamill and there is no doubt that he is totally fine with slugging it out. He had good defence and seemed to block a lot of strikes.

The one move I really enjoyed was the headlock. I can't say that I've seen this use from that position. Of course later in the fight, Bisping's head was slippery and Hamill couldn't hold it as well. But it was damn effective and caused some nice cuts. Could we say that this is his "official" move? With his wrestling obviously he can control position really well. I'm curious to know what Couture thinks of him. Koz is pretty much one dimentional as proven in the GSP fight and you could make the argument also about Hamill. However, I think that Hamill is much tougher. He seems to be able to control positions amazingly, and I think that he should study Couture's path and follow. I seem him as that.

Straffe · 09-12-2007, 10:12 PM

Yeah i really liked that move a lot to and it seemed to be working very well for him

FightFan76 · 09-12-2007, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ge master

I think that he should study Couture's path and follow. I seem him as that.

He seems more like a young inexperienced Dan Henderson to me but then again Randy and Dan are very similar so I can see your point. If Hamil can learn a little better technique striking and get well versed in the submission game than I think he can potentially be a force sometime down the road.

jyd94 · 09-12-2007, 11:27 PM

I thought that move was good, I don't know how much damage it did but it kept bisbing where he wanted.

Toshinden · 09-13-2007, 01:20 AM

He was definitely able to score points with it, regardless of how much damage it did.

Dirty Fighter · 09-13-2007, 02:45 AM

It did look familiar, now that you mention it.

MillerLite · 09-13-2007, 03:22 AM

Putting the controversy scoring on a split decision, based on the difference performance expected and performed aside, if the real Michael Bisping showed up, fighting at his normal fighting level as he should, Matt Hamill, as much improved and suprised everyone as he showed in their fight, will not make it a close fight. Matt Hamill still lacking lots of mma techniques, not even close to Michael Bisping, the one fighter I have never liked since TUF.
What really happened, or played out, is a nervous Bisping facing a motivated Hamill. Bisping was afraid of facing Hamill back in their TUF show awhile back to start with. Bisping caused the injury to eliminate Hamill, and went on to win the TUF title. Now facing a 100% healthy Hamill, Bisping didn't like the thought of it, and mentally beaten away half of his will before the fight actually started. And that's the reason why the fight happened the way it did. Yes Hamill did improved tremendously, but still is not a fairly good mma fighter as of yet. I like Hamill lot more than Bisping as a person, but to choose which one is a better mma fighter, it will be Bisping, if he is not afraid of Hamill 's power and take down abilities.
Hamill caught Bisping in the standing headlock and was doing some good uppercut resulting from this position, which would never would have happened if Bisping was in his right fighting state of mind.

Anti-Sanchez · 09-13-2007, 06:27 AM

Randy is punching out of a one handed Thai clinch. Wan't Matt using traditional headlock type of control similar to what you'd use in a Guillitine choke? I can't say that I ever remember seeing that type of punching in an MMA fight. But I remember using that techniqie back in middle school when I got into a couple of fist fights

It looked very effective for Matt because as soon as Bisping got out of that control is when his face started looking really red and beaten. It makes perfect sense to do what Matt did and I'm really kind of astonished that we really haven't seen that in the past.

Ge Master since you started that thread and brought it to our attention maybe you should name that position. lol

mxfuel · 09-13-2007, 07:46 AM

Who does Hamill train with? I think if he went to train with Randy or Hendo it would help his game alot. They would know how to move from a wrestler to MMA (not that hamill has improved).

OneBigThrow · 09-13-2007, 10:45 AM

matt hamill is gonna have to really really understand the submission game in all of its forms because he cant rely on his corner and will have to think and react on his own out there

so i loe the headlock thing, he can score the takedown, let go to avoid risking being caught in a bad situation, cath the head and score points on the uppercuts, i loved his game plan

ge master · 09-13-2007, 09:12 PM

A name for the move. Hmm, I'll think on that. I really do believe that it will be emulated by other fighters. It was a bit strange, but yeah it was almost like a guillitine choke position standing. I think it really did cause some decent damage and more importantly, it was another example of control. It gives his opponents something to worry about. They know in close quarters, he could pull it off again. I will say it's an early in the fight move based on what I saw in the fight. It's just great to see a rarely used, but effective technique in MMA. Just remember this thread so that when you watch future events, you know the birthplace of the move. Hamill's it is.

Now back to his future in MMA....Can we honestly say that Couture is going to submit guys? Let's watch his next fights and see. I really see him as a control fighter although I'm not a Couture expert. The fact is, from what I've seen, Hamill is as strong. Look at the takedowns? It was crazy how easy he made it look. He seems like he's rather just punch it out in the ring, but that's just maturity. If he chose to smash an opponent on the ground he would. Also, consider the fact that he is smart and realizes that on the ground, he can get caught in submissions, even though he's on top. It really was, check out replays.

I did recall previous threads dissing Hamill and his lame striking abilities. My point to everyone was, sure sure, all victories ended with strikes. So, he's not a good striker then? No losses right? Well one now, but you get my drift. He must be tough!