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    Quote Originally Posted by MTKrav911 View Post
    Put Rampage up against Machida for that Main Event slot, and that UFC 81 is gonna be a pretty decent card.

    I shall work some OT this holiday season to save for that should it materialize. I wanna be there for this one.
    I think if anybody has earned a title shot its Forrest. He beat the crap out of a top 2 fighter and then finished him. I think Forrest vs Rampage is a much more marketable fight also.

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    Well, looks like at least one fight is going to a decision on the Super Bowl card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjabot View Post
    I think if anybody has earned a title shot its Forrest. He beat the crap out of a top 2 fighter and then finished him. I think Forrest vs Rampage is a much more marketable fight also.
    I believe it was already determined that the winner of Bisping/Rashad at UFC 78 is going to get the next LHW title shot. Still, I think Forrest deserves the title shot more then either of those two.

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    Dang, I just saw this on UFC.com and I thought I might be able to get here and make a thread about it first, but I guess not I had actually thought a number of times in my head that this match would make a lot of sense. Even if Brock loses, they'll probably just give him another shot and say something along the lines of "Mir was the better man that night - but then again, this is a former HW champ we're talking about!". That being said, I would love it if Brock pulled this one off. I think with a lot more training and experience he could be a very exciting HW - especially if he maintains the same strength he had before.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenkins83 View Post
    I believe it was already determined that the winner of Bisping/Rashad at UFC 78 is going to get the next LHW title shot. Still, I think Forrest deserves the title shot more then either of those two.
    UFC Icon and Mixed Martial Arts Legend ()Michael Bisping has done **** all to do deserve a title shot. What did he do? Beat Pointon/Haynes/Rothaermel on TUF? Come on now... to make things worse, he's fighting Rashad, who didn't even beat Tito. Rashad is leaps and bounds above Bisping, who couldn't even beat Hamill - in fact, he got destroyed by Hamill, and some ****ty judging awarded him with the most lobsided decision that anyone's ever seen (some think it happened just to set this match up). Where did Dana White get the idea that either of these fighters deserve a title shot at this Pointon time? (see what I did there? I made a pun with the name of Bisping's most exciting opponent thus far, aside from Hamill).

    P.S. I'm not getting pissed at you dude, just the idea of either of them getting a title shot makes me want to shoot someone.
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    Originally Posted by Ninjabot
    I think if anybody has earned a title shot its Forrest. He beat the crap out of a top 2 fighter and then finished him. I think Forrest vs Rampage is a much more marketable fight also
    I believe it was already determined that the winner of Bisping/Rashad at UFC 78 is going to get the next LHW title shot. Still, I think Forrest deserves the title shot more then either of those two.
    Well, I can`t win either ways then
    How can Forest decerve it before Jardin. Jardin beat Forest and the former champ. If anyone decerve a title shot it is Jardin.

    Hating UFC for not giving Matchida his chanse against top fighters.
    I think he might be the best one to give Rampage a good fight at the moment. For me this sport is about finding the best fighter and not to find the biggest clown. To make not finishing fight a reason for not giving him a shot is just lame.

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    I am excited, and maybe Randy will go along for the ride, as it is the (superbowl) off mma. Ik just don't hope they will put two main events up only with heavyweights. But then again, it is a superbowl, so we should get 5 main events.

    Damn smart off them promoting brock lesner. They can take a lot of wrestling fans cause off this. I once was a wreslting fan, so they got me!

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    I'll be rooting for Mir but I see this going the same way as Mir's fights with Freeman or Pe De Pano, with Mir attempting subs from the bottom but ultimately getting pounded out.

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    If Mir comes in like he did in his last fight, I think he will take this via sub early in the fight. Where Mir has had trouble in the past has been with strikes, but Lesner doesnt have much standup its been reported. Also, he is a phenominal wrestler but how is his bjj or his sub defense? I know he has trained with Royce Gracie for some time but I find it hard to believe that his bjj could have improved enough to defend against someone of Mir's skill level.

    Unless Lesner just completely overpowers Mir or lays on him for a decision, I think that Mir takes this early with a sub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riversideblues View Post
    To be honest I like this fight, Lesner is going to want to make himself look good, and if Mir comes in shape then it'll be a good fight, if he doesn't Lesner will GnP his eyebrows off
    I think they threw Lesnar a dog. I wonder how much Lesnar is getting paid? Should be interesting to see at the end of the fight. Anyway I don't see Mir winning this one. He hasn't looked like himself for a long time. But that being said I hope Mir tears his arm off!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjabot View Post
    I think if anybody has earned a title shot its Forrest. He beat the crap out of a top 2 fighter and then finished him. I think Forrest vs Rampage is a much more marketable fight also.
    I agree totally!!!!

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    Sigh.....Randy vs Nog.... =(

    Mir better be in a gym this very second. If they are going to market the crap outta this fight, ud expect for Mir to get ready.

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    I will be rooting for Brock. I think he is going to have to much power to deal with since Mir usually comes very out of shape. This can not be the main event though.

    Bisbing and Rashad do not deserve a title shot!!!!!!!

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    I don't see a LnP in this fight at all..

    I don't even see this going past the first round.

    Either Lesnar by TKO(punches), or Mir by Submission(whatever) in the first round.

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    I truly hope the UFC does not try to sell this as the main event of that card. A semi washed-up fighter as Mir going against a complete nobody, who has IMO all the symptoms of having been doing steroids for many years.

    The CIRCUS stage of the UFC has officially begun.

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    Lesnar has never tested positive for steroids.

    I think that match will be a good start for Lesnar.

    Mir should be a good early test.


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    For the love of MMA Mir better win this....
    Everyones good at something-Its the law of averages

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    Ya can't win... Everyone would be complaining if they gave him top level competition because he didn't earn it yet, and now people are complaining saying they're feeding him a has-been fighter. I'm really curious to see what kind of skills Brock has developed, and I'd love to see Mir neutralize said skills. Brock by tap or nap in the first


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    Quote Originally Posted by subgenius View Post
    Lesnar has never tested positive for steroids.

    Neither had Sherk, or Big Tim, or Baroni, or Barnett, or Alves - until they did.

    I no longer trust the UFC to run clean promotions. Mir should win by submission, but I will not be surprised if Brock wins. And I will not be surprised if that is just how UFC planned it. Who will bring more new viewers to the UFC? Brock or Mir. I think we know the answer to that.

    I will not be buying any more UFC PPV because I no longer trust the integrity of the organization. I will watch the "free fights" on TV just to keep an eye on what's happening. I think anyone who bets real money on UFC fights is nuts.
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    I'm jumping on the Mir by sub in round #1 bandwagon.

    Fullonshred: There's no evidence that the UFC has fixed any fights. If this were the case, Rich Franklin would've defeated Anderson Silva twice, instead of the other way around. There are plenty of examples of "favorites" who come into UFC and get their asses handed to them.

    Brock will probably bring a few wrestling fans, and that's great for the UFC and that particular card. After Mir cleans-up shop on Lesnar in round one via submission, the UFC will be hoping that the entire card was decent enough to convert a few of those Brock fans into UFC fans. If Lesnar does beat Mir, hopefully he'll face Arlovksi so we can see Arlovski school his arse.

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    Lesnar should have to fight and win a lot of fights in order to face Arlovski.

    Arlovski deserves a title shot before facing someone so low in the rankings.

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