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I didn't know what else to name this thread. Anyway this guy at Sherdog claims he had an interview with Joe Silva at the weigh-ins. None of this is backed up though so I don't know how reliable it is.

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Just wanted to say how cool it was for Joe to basically talk to me and other fans for the whole hour and a half until weighins started. Was really upfront and honest, and i asked him about basically everything. So, i will list everything i can remember.

First Andre Arlovksi

The UFC has offered him multiple contracts, all with significant increases in wages, but Silva made it sound like AA was asking for around 1 mil per fight. He did say though, that no matter what AA will be fighting probably at or before March.

Brock Lesnar v. Frank Mir
Said it will be a big test for both. Said this could possibly be Frank's last big fight. Also talked about how Mir has degrees in karate, so he may just try to go crazy on his feet to get brock to take him down. Said the key to the fight will be when Brock takes down Mir, will Brock be in Mir's guard or not. Also admitted that state athletic commissions refused to approve Mir v. Slyvia II.

Randy Couture
Nothing new, but confirmed Randy has been officially offered a fight with Nog, and they are awaiting his response. Said their main problem with Randy was not with what he was saying and how he felt, but they were angered when Randy lied. This is why they put out all the facts about the contract, and also why Randy has not said anything since.

Fedor
He said he respects Fedor and admits he is great. He said he feels like Dana does as well, but dana gets very frustrated with the fact that everyone always just boasts and boasts about Fedor. Said he thinks Fedor is #1, but wondered how long he would stay #1 if he no longer fights real competition. ADMITTED during negotiations with Fedor, Fedor wanted the following: Red Devil fighters under contract and possibly on the main card of fights he was on, A co-promoted show with Russia on multiple occasions, and his management wanted control over who he would fight, and admitted his management expressed concern over Fedor fighting Big Tim. He said their offer to Fedor was by far the largest, but they could not give into his demands when they were paying him that much money.

One night tournaments
I asked him his opinions on tonight's strikeforce tournament. He said it isn't that they don't like the idea of tournaments, however that he and dana feel that it is not the best fighter who wins the tournament, but the fighter with the easiest fights.

Josh Barnett
Said Barnett is a pain to deal with, and not worth it dispite his talent. Said he seems to love Japan, so he doubts he would come to the UFC anyway.

Keith Jardine
When jardine faced Houston Alexander, he was originally scheduled to face Machida.

Wandy Silva
Basically hinted towards the fact that if Wandy beats Chuck he will get a title shot, said he didn't think Chuck would get one for beating Wandy though. Which is understandable. More to come later.

Welterweights
Said Kos and Fitch are basically in the same agreement as Jardine and Evans as in they will never fight eachother. Stated he would love to set up Karo and Fitch if Karo wins. Also, it was interesting to note that Marcus Davis stated that when he wins in Newcastle, he wants to fight someone in the top 10, i said Karo, and he said that is exactly who i think they will match me up with. Davis says he feels Fitch will get the title shot after GSP almost no matter what.

Dropping weight class
Said he has been telling Vera ever since he joined the UFC to drop to 205. Stated he has told Bisping to drop, and also Rashad.

CBS Deal
Said they are constantly in talks with almost everyone, including CBS and HBO. Thinks a CBS deal would help them in their negotiation position with HBO since it would give them a better foothold to demand complete creative control.

Japanese Fighters
Fighters like Gomi, Aoki, and others. He said they offered them the biggest fight purses of any orgs, however most of those fighters make big money off of sponsorships in Japan and commercial spots. He said until the UFC has a tv deal in japan, he doubts they will be able to sign high-class Japanese talent.

Yushin Okami
Stated they did not plan to let Okami leave. He said he wanted to see how he performed in the final fight of his contract before deciding what to do. Said the performance and absurdly large contract demand caused him to leave.

Dennis Kang
Said they never had a chance to sign him, since he is half-korean which makes him a gold mine for K1 in Korea.

TUF
Said they should probably never have anther season of TUF HW's. Stated the simple lack of depth and true HWs as the reason. Pointed out the only 2 good fighters still in the UFC from the HW part of TUF are Jardine and Evans, and they are both really LHW. Stated the lack of depth is one of the reasons as soon as they acquired WEC he cut the HW division.

Serra
Will never drop to 155. Stated he thought if there was a 160 division that Serra would be one of the best.

Vitor Belfort
I think he was talking about Vitor when he said someone had been kickedo ut of BlackHouse. I don't know who else he could be talking about. Maybe Filho since he is going to be training in Mass. with GG.

Antonio Silva
Said he has 2 fights left on his EliteXC contract. Said he loves the fact he got the tumor removed, because it stopped his huge growth which now allows him to make 265. Said if he wins his final 2 fights, he will definitely be in the UFC.

Jake Shields
Admitted he couldn't talk to shields about a contract, but said Shield's people contacted him asking if the UFC would be interested. Silva said they said they were, however at the 23rd hour EliteXC offered Shields a crap load of GUARANTEED money.

Nick Diaz
Said he just thinks the cut is far too much for him. Said this is why he seems so slow.

Cro Cop
Cro Cop thinks he is fighting in January, however Silva said they ahve not even been able to contact his management

Griffin Jardine II
Said he liked the possibility, and said it was one of the options they were looking into for the future of the LHW division.

Evan Tanner
Tanner has signed. Tanner actually was the originally scheduled opponent for Terry Martin when Leben ended up fighting him. Said Evan turned down the deal for no reason given.

Matt Hammil
Said they are not sure what fight he will have next, but said they are looking out for his best interest. I felt like this meant they were looking for the best fighter he could fight while still beating them. Will fight in first half of next year after he recovers from surgery.

Next title fight for A. Silva
Said he hopes it is Hendo and they are working on that now. BUT

Dan Henderson
Henderson really, really, REALLY wants to fight Tito Ortiz. Also, admitted Hendo only has 1 fight left on his contract but they are working on an extension.

Tito Ortiz
Said injuries have ruined his career. Stated some injuries and their severity that people probably do not know, or should not know. Tito's "back" injury that has plagued his career, actually is a spinal injury. Silva explained this is why Tito no longer is explosive, showing that there was a time when if Tito wanted to get you down, you were going down.

Rampage
Said he thoughti t would be a great idea for Rampage to be a coach on TUF

Martin Kampmann
Stated his surgery was one of the most complicated he had seen. Said he will be out for awhile, but will probably return the middle of next year. Said he will be very important for the future of the MW division, and said he will be in immediate title contender level if he can prove he has not dropped off since injury.

Rich Franklin
Said he will stay at 185, and they are currently exploring very interesting options for him. I asked if he was staying in the UFC and Silva said yes, but it was with a hesitated duration of time between the question and the response. Said he is in a unique position, because he said he believes Franklin is one of the best fighters in the world at any weight class, however he falls perfectly into Silva's style and gameplan.

Machida v. Sok
Said this is the perfect fight to set one of them off as legit upper level fighters. Said Sok should be able to make Machida aggressive.

Shogun
Will return before the middle of next year. He is spending time with his new wife. Said he knows there was a time when there was a rift between Shogun and Wandy, but now they are on pretty decent terms. Unsure of if they would fight. More interesting news on an old ChuteBoxe rift coming at the end.

Monte Cox
Said he is close friends with Monte and his relationship with M1 will not effect his fighters in the UFC. Stated though, that Monte has so many fighters, he cannot see him staying as an agent and president of M1.

The best and most suprising news: Anderson Silva
Anderson Silva HATES Wandy. Now i knew this, but this takes it to another level. Silva wants to train with Chuck (maybe why Filho is helping Chuck). Anderson also told Joe Silva that if Chuck does not beat Wandy, Anderson wants to move up in weight and fight Wandy! I for some reason don't see this happening though. But that would be an amazing fight.

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Old 11-20-2007, 02:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i just read this.... its funny i been saying all this stuff about chute boxe and anderson silva and where they stand and so many people on sherdog and here from time to time tell me i am blowing the situation way out of proportion. haha...

Its also funny that Wanderlei has a picture on his myspace of him blasting Anderson with a kick to the liver! Even funnier how about a year and a half ago or more Anderson said he has no real hard feelings towards Wanderlei. Guess all this "Your Pound for Pound best on the planet" **** is going to his head.

Here is were a decent amount of you say Anderson could KO Wanderlei... and yes he might be able to do that. Just keep in mind Anderson is cleaning out a lack luster weight class in the UFC as Wanderlei wiped out an organization for a while during their prime. A time when they had a way deeper and more rich talent pool then the UFC. The same time Anderson was getting tooled around a bit by one Ryo Chonan and Daiju Takase. Shogun and Ninja and many other Chute Boxe fighters will tell you... You may be able to spar with Wandy and hold your own or even out strike him, but if he wants to hurt you then its to late for you.

Anderson maybe a more Pin point and technical striker but Wanderlei is bigger and can really lay a beat down on someone when he feels the need. Ask Rampage... current 205lb god who still has yet to beat Wanderlei.

Also ask your self this... Can Anderson Silva :

Go 5 rounds with Cro Cop and look great in doing so? (aka winning the fight but since they were fighting to a ko it was called a draw)

Make TWO highlight real wins over Rampage Jackson?

go to a split decision with K-1 Grand Prix Champion Mark Hunt?

do more damage to Fujita then Cro Cop or Fedor did?
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Are we actually looking too much into it though, I mean if I see Silva vs. Silva, I would love it personally, but if it would happen or not is something else. I seriously don't know who would win that.

Good info in here though, the Tito thing makes sense, because he did drop off, and it isn't due to him being one dimensional because if he still could take people down and keep them down, he would win the majority of his fights, simple as that. I would love to see Tito vs. Hendo.

Overall, a good find and a good read.
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interesting thing about the Fedor question , Fedor demanding that his management picked each opponent for Fedor , is that ,so his management can pick out easy fights for him??
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You may be able to spar with Wandy and hold your own or even out strike him, but if he wants to hurt you then its to late for you.
I seem to remember he was keen to 'hurt' Crocop at the OWGP semis but that didnt happen. Same with Arona. IMO He fights better when he doesnt have 'hate' for his opponent.

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Anderson maybe a more Pin point and technical striker but Wanderlei is bigger and can really lay a beat down on someone when he feels the need.
Like Crocop was at the OWGP? Look what happened there.

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Its also funny that Wanderlei has a picture on his myspace of him blasting Anderson with a kick to the liver! Even funnier how about a year and a half ago or more Anderson said he has no real hard feelings towards Wanderlei. Guess all this "Your Pound for Pound best on the planet" **** is going to his head.
How is his p4p status going to his head? It was Joe Silva who brought up his hate for Wandy, not Anderson. Its not like Anderson's calling Wandy out in public or anything?

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Also ask your self this... Can Anderson Silva :

Go 5 rounds with Cro Cop and look great in doing so? (aka winning the fight but since they were fighting to a ko it was called a draw)
Of course, what makes you think he couldnt?

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Make TWO highlight real wins over Rampage Jackson?
If they fought then its very possible. He's already made TWO highlight reel wins over Franklin.

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go to a split decision with K-1 Grand Prix Champion Mark Hunt?
Of course he could. Anderson would be far too quick for Hunt. I doubt he could KO Hunt, but I think he could take him to a decision.

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do more damage to Fujita then Cro Cop or Fedor did?
Hard to say, but its possible.

*edit* Reading through this post it sounds like Im anti-Wandy. Im not....I just disagree with a lot of the points George brought up. I really hope this fight happens.
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I seem to remember he was keen to 'hurt' Crocop at the OWGP semis but that didnt happen. Same with Arona. IMO He fights better when he doesnt have 'hate' for his opponent.

Like Crocop was at the OWGP? Look what happened there.

How is his p4p status going to his head? It was Joe Silva who brought up his hate for Wandy, not Anderson. Its not like Anderson's calling Wandy out in public or anything?

Of course, what makes you think he couldnt?

If they fought then its very possible. He's already made TWO highlight reel wins over Franklin.

Of course he could. Anderson would be far too quick for Hunt. I doubt he could KO Hunt, but I think he could take him to a decision.

Hard to say, but its possible.

*edit* Reading through this post it sounds like Im anti-Wandy. Im not....I just disagree with a lot of the points George brought up. I really hope this fight happens.
The OWGP is a different story. A fat bloated Wanderlei that comes to fight with a cold and says to his cornerman before the fight "i feel like **** i am going to end this fast" probably not the same person that went 5 rounds with Cro Cop and made Cro Cop look scared.

Once again You cant through away an entire career off of one rematch with someone who has way more power then Anderson Silva. Thats like me saying Ryo will always beat Anderson by some sort of flying submission...most likely gogoplatta!

He is clearly making his hate known for Wand if Joe Silva felt comfortable enough to say it to someone he has never met before!

Are you kidding with the Hunt and Cro Cop remarks by the way? Like i understand its a fight and anything can happen but are you kidding? Like i realy am unsure at this point? When the most dangerous striker on your record is Hayato Sakurai its a very BOLD statement to say he could hang with K-1 Elite. Last i check Anderson had a very rough time in straight kick boxing matches. Hence why so many people think Cung Le can beat him. Cung Le is time tested as far as his stand up goes as Anderson was very hit or miss out side of MMA. In side of MMA his real big wins are Franklin and Hayato Sakurai. Sakurai is a smaller man who is dangerous but give me a break. Franklin is a self taught striker. Has a lot of delusions about his skills. Why would he believe because of his size he can clinch with a former Chute Boxe fighter?

Are you really comparing Rich Franklin to Rampage Jackson?


Like it feels you are either doing an entire argument over things that are possible as appose to things that might actually happen or just saying things to say the opposite of what i am saying. I find it very hard to believe that you think Anderson Silva could go through some of the wars that you claim he can. Anderson is a very tough dude and definitely on top of the Middle Weight mountain. If you honestly believe he is P4P in the world though you have another thing coming. He has a long list of wins agianst nobodys then two wins over Franklin who was never considered P4P anything and now he is p4p best? I dont think so. I win over Dan Henderson sure as hell makes it more likely though!
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Wow! Great stuff. It's either very accurate or someone has a lot of time on their hands.
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"Fedor wanted the following: Red Devil fighters under contract and possibly on the main card of fights he was on, A co-promoted show with Russia on multiple occasions"

I postulated in the thread where people were whining about Fedor saying "I'm not coming to UFC because it is 90% American" that he was probably hinting that he had asked for more Russian Fighters from his Red Devil camp be given contracts, and that the UFC had refused. This (if credible) backs up my thoughts quite nicely.

However, I do have some doubts about the source(or at least part of what he claims) because there is no way Fedor's People are worried about Fedor fighting Big Tim.
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Very good read. Fantastic insight if its all real.
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"Fedor wanted the following: Red Devil fighters under contract and possibly on the main card of fights he was on, A co-promoted show with Russia on multiple occasions"

I postulated in the thread where people were whining about Fedor saying "I'm not coming to UFC because it is 90% American" that he was probably hinting that he had asked for more Russian Fighters from his Red Devil camp be given contracts, and that the UFC had refused. This (if credible) backs up my thoughts quite nicely.

However, I do have some doubts about the source(or at least part of what he claims) because there is no way Fedor's People are worried about Fedor fighting Big Tim.
From what Fedors manager said about Big Tim was that they werent worried too fight him they were worried to have Fedors first big fight in the UFC be a boring one... but hey they are all crazy russians right dana!
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"Fedor wanted the following: Red Devil fighters under contract and possibly on the main card of fights he was on, A co-promoted show with Russia on multiple occasions"

I postulated in the thread where people were whining about Fedor saying "I'm not coming to UFC because it is 90% American" that he was probably hinting that he had asked for more Russian Fighters from his Red Devil camp be given contracts, and that the UFC had refused. This (if credible) backs up my thoughts quite nicely.

However, I do have some doubts about the source(or at least part of what he claims) because there is no way Fedor's People are worried about Fedor fighting Big Tim.
Well then the article said after, that Fedor's management wanted to choose who he fights! , whyy??? , are they worried that there are a few UFC fighters in the HW division that can give Fedor a hard time??
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This is all rumors. But lets say they are not. It would explain some of the lackluster opponents that Fedor has faced. No prime challenges for a #1 HW. Second if they were demanding that much, then I would have to pass on that also.
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I respect Fedor alot and he's one of my favorite fighters, but those stipulations are ridiculous.

I think what Fedor might be after is a big USA vs. Russia MMA feud.

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Tito is also one of my favorite fighters and to hear that his back problems are worse than he says they are is very upsetting.
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From what Fedors manager said about Big Tim was that they werent worried too fight him they were worried to have Fedors first big fight in the UFC be a boring one... but hey they are all crazy russians right dana!
George, thanks for clearing that up for me.
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I thought Hendo did NOT want to fight Tito.
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I thought Hendo did NOT want to fight Tito.
on inside MMA on HD.net he said he really wants the fight cause he knows he can win but thinks its not the best for his career and prefer a better fight. Probably why he is re dropping to 185lbs to fight Anderson
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