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Old 11-25-2007, 12:14 PM   #61
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Does "interim" mean they are stripping the belt from serra??
It means that the winner of GSP/Hughes will get a title, and then face Matt Serra to declare and undisputed WW champ.

If Matt Serra cannot defend his title within a certain frame of time, I think they'll declare the winner of GSP/Hughes THE WW champ of the UFC.
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:18 PM   #62
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I think if Hughes loses he will be offered the winner of Hendo Silva for the title at 185 b/c they are hurting for contenders there.
Hughes getting punked at 170 and then challenging the middleweight champ. Don't think so. That scenario highly unlikely....

Here is a snip bit of what would happen to hughes again, if he fought a guy like Anderson Silva...

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Old 11-25-2007, 12:19 PM   #63
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He attempted maybe 1 TD, in thier 2nd fight, he even said he was going to showcase his standup. i think you should go and rewatch the fight, becasue Hughes was trying to stand and trade with GSP.
All those fights, and Hughes still hasn't figured out that he has poor stand-up.

Trying to showcase his striking? What's there to showcase? How not to strike?

Too much Pride or stupidity, you tell me Tony Starks.

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Koscheck's wrestling is very different from Hughes'. In a collegiate Wrestling match, I would give Kos the advantage, but in MMA wrestling, it's not even close. It's not fair to compare to koscheck, a guy who has been fighting for 2 years to Hughes, a veteran of over 40 fights.
I'll give you that. Kos isn't as polished a fighter as Hughes. Get Kos a few fights, and he'll take out your hero.

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I can't wait to hear all the excuses when Hughes beats him, all the GSP fans are already laying the groundwork to use the fact he took the fight on short notice.
I can't wait to hear your excuses if/when GSP takes the fight on short notice and beats Matt Hughes.

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Old 11-25-2007, 12:27 PM   #64
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You're giving GSP only 5 weeks (if that) to get in "fight" shape vs arguably the best WW in MMA history who's been preparing for at least twice that much more time.

This could be ugly for GSP.

I still think he takes this, but he's gonna have to finish Hughes early with strikes. This cannot go to the ground for GSP or it's over.
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All those fights, and Hughes still hasn't figured out that he has poor stand-up.

Trying to showcase his striking? What's there to showcase? How not to strike?

Too much Pride or stupidity, you tell me Tony Starks.
Thanks for prooving my point Pitbull. Hughes had a terrible gameplan in that fight, so yea he had to much Pride in that fight, but he will learn from it. That is exactly the reason why this fight won't go like the last one. Hughes learned that the key to victory will be to take GSP to the mat

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I'll give you that. Kos isn't as polished a fighter as Hughes. Get Kos a few fights, and he'll take out your hero.
Kos lacks heart and he seems to fold when faced with adversity, I don't ever see him taking out Hughes, if he did fight him, he would be outclassed and submitted.

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I can't wait to hear your excuses if/when GSP takes the fight on short notice and beats Matt Hughes.

Sorry pal, I'm not like the average GSP fan who has to make excuses after a loss, If Hughes loses, he loses. Thats it, no excuses. But if GSP loses, I know I'm going to be reading page after page of excuses from his feeble minded fanboys.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:01 PM   #66
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Glad to see this fight happen. I remember how electricfied I was when Gsp won the one. I'm sure GSP will pull it off, but not as easy imo.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:18 PM   #67
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Thanks for prooving my point Pitbull. Hughes had a terrible gameplan in that fight, so yea he had to much Pride in that fight, but he will learn from it. That is exactly the reason why this fight won't go like the last one. Hughes learned that the key to victory will be to take GSP to the mat
Allow me to pull up an old Tony Starks quote...

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Exactly and fighting is 50% mental and 50% physical. GSP is his own worst enemy. Matt Hughes is a cerebral fighter who never gets psyched out, that coupled with his world-class wrestling and his new improved striking will be the difference in thier next fight.
Obviously not too cerebral, and he got 'psyched out' into believing he could stand with GSP.

And What makes you so sure he learned anything from it? Obviously with 40 something fights under his belt, you'd think he would've learned he can't strike. Guess not.

And would you mind telling me why Hughes couldn't secure his 2 takedowns in the second fight?

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Kos lacks heart and he seems to fold when faced with adversity, I don't ever see him taking out Hughes, if he did fight him, he would be outclassed and submitted.
Kos lacks experience.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:22 PM   #68
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I don't see Koscheck ever being a threat at WW.

Matt Hughes has defeated GSP before, and they are 1-1 against each other.

So, all this GSP will own Gughes stuff is just BS, IMO.

And, Hughes has had A LOT more than five weeks to prepare.

TUF-6 ended in early August, IIRC. We are not watching live episodes.

Let's hope that this time around GSP can avoid kicking Hughes in the nuts.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:26 PM   #69
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Then he fought Lytle and did the bare minimum to pull it off
um....if i remember correctly he beat the ****in dog**** out of lytle, just because it went to decision doesnt mean he did the bare minimum, lytle was tricky at getting out of tough position but hughes ****in rearranged his face


if anything GSP did the bare minimum against koscheck, when you look at it objectively
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Obviously not too cerebral, and he got 'psyched out' into believing he could stand with GSP.

And What makes you so sure he learned anything from it? Obviously with 40 something fights under his belt, you'd think he would've learned he can't strike. Guess not.

And would you mind telling me why Hughes couldn't secure his 2 takedowns in the second fight?



Kos lacks experience.

Big differance in getting psyched out amd having too much Pride, Hughes thought he could stand with GSP and KO him, he was overconfident, chalk that loss up to a bad gameplan. GSP has been psyched out in 2 big fights, The 1st Hughes fight and against Serra, remember this is not speculation on my part, Georged admitted this himself. Hughes is a crafty veteran, who learned that he cannot in fact strike with GSP, but he can own him on the ground. Hughes is a confident and cocky guy, he doesn't let hyp get in his head like GSP does, he's also not scare of a big fight.

You are making blanket statements that only further prove my argument correct.

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Old 11-25-2007, 01:50 PM   #71
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I thought only us GSP fanboys were allowed to make excuses for losses!
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:53 PM   #72
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Big differance in getting psyched out amd having too much Pride, Hughes thought he could stand with GSP and KO him, he was overconfident, chalk that loss up to a bad gameplan. GSP has been psyched out in 2 big fights, The 1st Hughes fight and against Serra, remember this is not speculation on my part, Georged admitted this himself. Hughes is a crafty veteran, who learned that he cannot in fact strike with GSP, but he can own him on the ground. Hughes is a confident and cocky guy, he doesn't let hyp get in his head like GSP does, he's also not scare of a big fight.

You are making blanket statements that only further prove my argument correct.

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So tell me again why Hughes couldn't take GSP down in the second fight?
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I thought only us GSP fanboys were allowed to make excuses for losses!
Hughes lost the 2nd fight fair and square, no excuses. he had a horrible gameplan going into that fight, he tried to stand with a guy who is taller and has much better standup, while Hughes' bread and butter has always been grappling. GSP probably would have won that fight even if Hughes was more persistent in taking the fight down, GSP was in a zone that night and fought the best fight of his life. This time will be different though.

Not an excuse, just simply making an observation, most people who know anything about MMA would agree with my statement and not call it "making excuses".

Saying that Serra got lucky and landed a fluke shot, that is an excuse. Saying a fighter didn't have enough time to train is an excuse, saying a fighter was injured is an excuse.
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Hughes lost the 2nd fight fair and square, no excuses. he had a horrible gameplan going into that fight, he tried to stand with a guy who is taller and has much better standup, while Hughes' bread and butter has always been grappling. GSP probably would have won that fight even if Hughes was more persistent in taking the fight down, GSP was in a zone that night and fought the best fight of his life. This time will be different though.

Not an excuse, just simply making an observation, most people who know anything about MMA would agree with my statement and not call it "making excuses".

Saying that Serra got lucky and landed a fluke shot, that is an excuse. Saying a fighter didn't have enough time to train is an excuse, saying a fighter was injured is an excuse.
How does one determine what is an excuse, and what is an observation?
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ugh, common sense?
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So tell me again why Hughes couldn't take GSP down in the second fight?
Maybe because he only attempted 2 TD's, even the best wrestlers aren't going to secure every TD, the attempts looked lazy and uninspires, GSP's TD defens is very good, so he will have to try harder and for more TD's.

I have already explained this to you about 5 times, why don't you actually read my posts
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Maybe because he only attempted 2 TD's, even the best wrestlers aren't going to secure every TD, the attempts looked lazy and uninspires, GSP's TD defens is very good, so he will have to try harder and for more TD's.

I have already explained this to you about 5 times, why don't you actually read my posts
Sounds like excuses to me.
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How does one determine what is an excuse, and what is an observation?
If you don't know the differance than not only do you lack knowledge of the sport we are discussing, but you also lack commen sense.

read my post and you will see the differance.
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Old 11-25-2007, 02:05 PM   #79
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If you don't know the differance than not only do you lack knowledge of the sport we are discussing, but you also lack commen sense.

read my post and you will see the differance.
Ok, I know the difference now. Thanks.
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Ok, I know the difference now. Thanks.
Thats the 1st sign that your losing the argument, when you resort to pointing out spelling errors, instead of debating the topic at hand.


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