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    Quote Originally Posted by Jras0001 View Post
    Im sorry but I disagree. I never said he was ignorant of the fact and I never even posed that as being remotely close to a defense. I simply stated its an "either he did or he didnt" case. Nothing more and nothing less. He did them (knowingly or not) or he didnt take them. There was no reason for the suspention to be lessened or otherwise tampered with unless it was to completely overturn it. I still think they are trying to appease as many people as they can and get this issue off their hands. If there was enough evidence to indicate the suspension deserved to be lessened, then that would suggest there was enough doubt to his guilt and therefore warranted the suspension to be overturned. If there was enough evidence showing his guilt, then the 1 year suspension should have stood intact.
    This was not a Legal hearing. It is not Guilty/Not Guilty he is allowed to make his case. He did they determined the punishment. They 1 year suspension is a default if you admit your wrongdoing or cannot present any evidence otherwise. Remember he can and could have fought at anytime, it is just that no org. wants to do that b/c they would lose their license in that state and most states would honor the ruling of said state (NJ,CA,NV,OH....).

    He pissed hot he stated his reason why, they gave him some reprieve. He moves on. It is better than the year.

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    ^^^ If I were innocent, I'd keep fighting to clear my good name. Then I'd sue CSAC's asses for lost income, damaging my reputation, punitive damages, etc. This "reduced" suspension is just step one.

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    Well this is certainly convenient in one way... by the time the CSAC got their **** together (whether it was done right or not), the suspension was already over... just in time for a potential title defense.
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    Ay yi yi. So is this enough to break Penn's "I'm not fighting him if he's not cleared" stance? The CSAC is a complete joke. The way they have handled various cases in recent history just makes me shake my head. I personally believe Sherk never juiced, but my opinion doesn't matter, only theirs does. And apparently after months of hemming and hawing, they've come to the conclusion that they have no logical opinion on the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jras0001 View Post
    Im sorry but that decision is total BS. If they, the CSAC, feel that Sherk did use banned substances, then they should have left the suspention as it was. If there was enough evidence to justify that the suspention be reduced, then it should have been completely overturned all together. Either there was or there wasnt evidence to show that he used banned substances. There isnt any middle of the road...either he did it or he didnt. This reduction in suspension crap just seems like a ploy of the CSAC to try to appease all parties concerned and keep the scrutiny off of them for not being prepared to hear the case on its scheduled date as well as other noted difficulties theyve had dealing with this entire issue.

    I just think this is an easy cop out and its totally blows.
    Jras has stated the correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gygax View Post
    This is courtesy of Sherdog's Josh Gross...


    I'm sure this will leave no one happy. Sherk will be upset that he will be viewed as a cheater, and the anti-Sherk crowd will wonder why he gets his reduced while Hermes Franca's was kept at the full year suspension even though he fully admitted doing steroids.
    Yeah this really gets no answer at all. So I think we just need to move one and forget about it. I wish they would have done a more fair trial to be honest. Oh well he got caught and payed the fine and punishment so he is clear and ready to fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jras0001 View Post
    Im sorry but that decision is total BS. If they, the CSAC, feel that Sherk did use banned substances, then they should have left the suspention as it was. If there was enough evidence to justify that the suspention be reduced, then it should have been completely overturned all together. Either there was or there wasnt evidence to show that he used banned substances. There isnt any middle of the road...either he did it or he didnt. This reduction in suspension crap just seems like a ploy of the CSAC to try to appease all parties concerned and keep the scrutiny off of them for not being prepared to hear the case on its scheduled date as well as other noted difficulties theyve had dealing with this entire issue.

    I just think this is an easy cop out and its totally blows.
    Ding ding ding!!! We have a winner. Very well put!!

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    I don't care if Sherk used or did'nt. The current tests and policies used by the commisions need to improved upon if they expect them to hold any water. Its the same story thats been told 1000 times. The accused points his finger at the inconsistencies in policy regarding testing procedures. Just from the sport of cycling there have been numerous occasions where a test sample was "lost", relabeled, mishandled etc.. i don't see how the AC's could have it all figured out when drugs still plague cycling. Sherk, guilty or not, made it clear that current testing is not 100%, got his suspension reduced and the people in charge wondering if future steroid users will point out the same errors common in testing.

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    As I've read more of the actual hearing and the process it took, its more and more screwed up. Rather than presenting their cases, as all previous appeals had been allowed to do, the parties were allowed one period of statements, in effect closing statements. When Sherk's attorney Howard Jacobs showed serious missteps by the lab, the lab refuted them and Jacobs was not allowed to refute the lab. Once again, the CSAC changed their procedure mid stream.

    Also interesting was the vote procedure. The first vote, to uphold the original suspension was shot down 2-4. The second vote to half the suspension was also shot down 2-4. A few minutes of debate, and the motion to half the suspension was reintroduced. This time it passed, 4-2. 2 commissioners changed their vote. You almost get the idea they just wanted to get out of there. No doubt there will be legal action taken by Sherk's team.

    Do I think he juiced? I just don't know. But wat I find really stupid is how so many feel he is absolutely guilty based on his physique. What a opinion of ignorance that is. I've had literally a half dozen wrestlers that I have personally worked with who have had similar builds and without a doubt, did not use steroids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gygax View Post

    Do I think he juiced? I just don't know. But wat I find really stupid is how so many feel he is absolutely guilty based on his physique. What a opinion of ignorance that is. I've had literally a half dozen wrestlers that I have personally worked with who have had similar builds and without a doubt, did not use steroids.
    I agree with that 100%. And its not only the general public who share that belief, but other athlete's as well. I read a KJ Noons interview where he said "Of course a guy like Sherk has been juicing, the dude is just too shredded."

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    This went about as I expected. I figured they would "backdate" whatever suspension (if any) was eventually handed out so Sherk would be back in the cage ASAP. Money talks and BS walks. Sherk's levels were so far above anything like a normal range that there is no doubt he was juiced. And claiming he didn't know he was taking them is just so much fertilizer from the south end of a northbound bull. Unfortunately, Sports as a whole is full of people who use steroids, HGH, blood doping, and anything else they can think of to gain an advantage. MMA is no exception to the rule.

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    Sherk could fight Faber for the WEC FW belt while he waits on BJ/Joe I mean he will be much smaller now.

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    ^man its wrong but i had to laugh

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    I may be wrong but I couldn't resist.

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