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I may be wrong but I couldn't resist.

^man its wrong but i had to laugh

Sherk could fight Faber for the WEC FW belt while he waits on BJ/Joe I mean he will be much smaller now.

This went about as I expected. I figured they would "backdate" whatever suspension (if any) was eventually handed out so Sherk would be back in the cage ASAP. Money talks and BS walks. Sherk's levels were so far above anything like a normal range that there is no doubt he was juiced. And claiming he didn't know he was taking them is just so much fertilizer from the south end of a northbound bull. Unfortunately, Sports as a whole is full of people who use steroids, HGH, blood doping, and anything else they can think of to gain an advantage. MMA is no exception to the rule.

Let us not forget we had an ice skater who paid her bf and another dude to attack her rival with a ball bat.

Gygax

Do I think he juiced? I just don't know. But wat I find really stupid is how so many feel he is absolutely guilty based on his physique. What a opinion of ignorance that is. I've had literally a half dozen wrestlers that I have personally worked with who have had similar builds and without a doubt, did not use steroids.

I agree with that 100%. And its not only the general public who share that belief, but other athlete's as well. I read a KJ Noons interview where he said "Of course a guy like Sherk has been juicing, the dude is just too shredded."

As I've read more of the actual hearing and the process it took, its more and more screwed up. Rather than presenting their cases, as all previous appeals had been allowed to do, the parties were allowed one period of statements, in effect closing statements. When Sherk's attorney Howard Jacobs showed serious missteps by the lab, the lab refuted them and Jacobs was not allowed to refute the lab. Once again, the CSAC changed their procedure mid stream.

Also interesting was the vote procedure. The first vote, to uphold the original suspension was shot down 2-4. The second vote to half the suspension was also shot down 2-4. A few minutes of debate, and the motion to half the suspension was reintroduced. This time it passed, 4-2. 2 commissioners changed their vote. You almost get the idea they just wanted to get out of there. No doubt there will be legal action taken by Sherk's team.

Do I think he juiced? I just don't know. But wat I find really stupid is how so many feel he is absolutely guilty based on his physique. What a opinion of ignorance that is. I've had literally a half dozen wrestlers that I have personally worked with who have had similar builds and without a doubt, did not use steroids.

I don't care if Sherk used or did'nt. The current tests and policies used by the commisions need to improved upon if they expect them to hold any water. Its the same story thats been told 1000 times. The accused points his finger at the inconsistencies in policy regarding testing procedures. Just from the sport of cycling there have been numerous occasions where a test sample was "lost", relabeled, mishandled etc.. i don't see how the AC's could have it all figured out when drugs still plague cycling. Sherk, guilty or not, made it clear that current testing is not 100%, got his suspension reduced and the people in charge wondering if future steroid users will point out the same errors common in testing.

Jras0001

Im sorry but that decision is total BS. If they, the CSAC, feel that Sherk did use banned substances, then they should have left the suspention as it was. If there was enough evidence to justify that the suspention be reduced, then it should have been completely overturned all together. Either there was or there wasnt evidence to show that he used banned substances. There isnt any middle of the road...either he did it or he didnt. This reduction in suspension crap just seems like a ploy of the CSAC to try to appease all parties concerned and keep the scrutiny off of them for not being prepared to hear the case on its scheduled date as well as other noted difficulties theyve had dealing with this entire issue. I just think this is an easy cop out and its totally blows.

Ding ding ding!!! We have a winner. Very well put!! :D

Gygax

This is courtesy of Sherdog's Josh Gross... I'm sure this will leave no one happy. Sherk will be upset that he will be viewed as a cheater, and the anti-Sherk crowd will wonder why he gets his reduced while Hermes Franca's was kept at the full year suspension even though he fully admitted doing steroids.

Yeah this really gets no answer at all. So I think we just need to move one and forget about it. I wish they would have done a more fair trial to be honest. Oh well he got caught and payed the fine and punishment so he is clear and ready to fight.

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Jras0001

Im sorry but that decision is total BS. If they, the CSAC, feel that Sherk did use banned substances, then they should have left the suspention as it was. If there was enough evidence to justify that the suspention be reduced, then it should have been completely overturned all together. Either there was or there wasnt evidence to show that he used banned substances. There isnt any middle of the road...either he did it or he didnt. This reduction in suspension crap just seems like a ploy of the CSAC to try to appease all parties concerned and keep the scrutiny off of them for not being prepared to hear the case on its scheduled date as well as other noted difficulties theyve had dealing with this entire issue. I just think this is an easy cop out and its totally blows.

Jras has stated the correct.http://www.fightforum.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

Ay yi yi. So is this enough to break Penn's "I'm not fighting him if he's not cleared" stance? The CSAC is a complete joke. The way they have handled various cases in recent history just makes me shake my head. I personally believe Sherk never juiced, but my opinion doesn't matter, only theirs does. And apparently after months of hemming and hawing, they've come to the conclusion that they have no logical opinion on the matter.

Well this is certainly convenient in one way... by the time the CSAC got their **** together (whether it was done right or not), the suspension was already over... just in time for a potential title defense.

^^^ If I were innocent, I'd keep fighting to clear my good name. Then I'd sue CSAC's asses for lost income, damaging my reputation, punitive damages, etc. This "reduced" suspension is just step one.

Jras0001

Im sorry but I disagree. I never said he was ignorant of the fact and I never even posed that as being remotely close to a defense. I simply stated its an "either he did or he didnt" case. Nothing more and nothing less. He did them (knowingly or not) or he didnt take them. There was no reason for the suspention to be lessened or otherwise tampered with unless it was to completely overturn it. I still think they are trying to appease as many people as they can and get this issue off their hands. If there was enough evidence to indicate the suspension deserved to be lessened, then that would suggest there was enough doubt to his guilt and therefore warranted the suspension to be overturned. If there was enough evidence showing his guilt, then the 1 year suspension should have stood intact.

This was not a Legal hearing. It is not Guilty/Not Guilty he is allowed to make his case. He did they determined the punishment. They 1 year suspension is a default if you admit your wrongdoing or cannot present any evidence otherwise. Remember he can and could have fought at anytime, it is just that no org. wants to do that b/c they would lose their license in that state and most states would honor the ruling of said state (NJ,CA,NV,OH....).

He pissed hot he stated his reason why, they gave him some reprieve. He moves on. It is better than the year.

Good to hear that he could be back as early as January. I'm guessing that means he won't have to be stripped of the title afterall. Instead of crowning an interim LW champion, the Penn/Stevenson fight at 79 will now probably be to determine who gets the title shot against Sherk.

Ya it seems they weren't 100% sure he was guilty, so they reduced the sentence, which is BS to me. I still believe Sherk is innocent, and will be ready to kick some ass in his next fight.

DoQ1

Not really. Haven't you ever heard that "Ignorance is no excuse"?? If you get caught for any crime ignorance does not get you off. Let just say he never knew about the roids, he still had them in his system. The CSAC obviously showing they will work with athletes lessend the punishment for not knowing but can't let guys get away with juicing. It is pretty simple to me. Sean probably did not intentionally roid up, however the synthetic testosteron still was in his body and doing what it does. Helping the body recover and increasing strength and conditioning. He did it unknowingly and they heard his defense and adjusted the punishment accordingly. They don't worry about how it effects the title shot picture they just uphold the rules. I give them props for being fair when they learned of the circumstances. Sherk will simply have to take more care in what he consumes. That said I wish he could fight sooner maybe he will get a fight in the mean time who knows.

Im sorry but I disagree. I never said he was ignorant of the fact and I never even posed that as being remotely close to a defense. I simply stated its an "either he did or he didnt" case. Nothing more and nothing less. He did them (knowingly or not) or he didnt take them. There was no reason for the suspention to be lessened or otherwise tampered with unless it was to completely overturn it. I still think they are trying to appease as many people as they can and get this issue off their hands. If there was enough evidence to indicate the suspension deserved to be lessened, then that would suggest there was enough doubt to his guilt and therefore warranted the suspension to be overturned. If there was enough evidence showing his guilt, then the 1 year suspension should have stood intact.

Steroid testing is not an exact science, especially urine testing. Mouth swab test are the least viable option, followed by urine then blood. Saliva and urine test for signs of steroids, blood test for the steroid itself. Then there are test for elevated testosterone to estrogen levels. The normal range is so varies from person to person, so it is not proof positive either.This is just a generalization of course, as it gets complicated when you factor in all the types of drugs available. They probably reduced the suspension because they know they can't say 100% that he did or did not use steroids. I have no doubt that he did, and had full knowledge what he was doing.

Jras0001

Im sorry but that decision is total BS. If they, the CSAC, feel that Sherk did use banned substances, then they should have left the suspention as it was. If there was enough evidence to justify that the suspention be reduced, then it should have been completely overturned all together. Either there was or there wasnt evidence to show that he used banned substances. There isnt any middle of the road...either he did it or he didnt. This reduction in suspension crap just seems like a ploy of the CSAC to try to appease all parties concerned and keep the scrutiny off of them for not being prepared to hear the case on its scheduled date as well as other noted difficulties theyve had dealing with this entire issue. I just think this is an easy cop out and its totally blows.

Well said, very well said! I concur!