The Seeker

One thing Sherk does that Hughes can't seem to figure out is that HE ACTUALLY KEEPS HIS HANDS UP TO PROTECT HIS FACE!

Hands down, wresting stance = GSP superman punch to the forehead, kick to the head, TKO.

Sherk always has them up and is apparently able to shake the wrestling pre-programming that evades Hughes. Helpful in a fight against BJ. BJ has decent stand-up and a solid, solid chin.

Workhorse

HaHa. I knew I should have used a different example.

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DoQ1

Sherk's WHOLE game is Strength minus the Roids he will need to add something to his game if he wants to hang with BJ. With the roids he has to have the BEST night of his career. No one ever mentions that BJ has way better hands than Sherk and World Class BJJ. Sherk has better wrestling and strength. I guess he will still have strength I dunno...

opsy

That came after repeated the explosives blows by GSP. I don't think that BJ's power can be compared to those two huge vicious knees right to the cranium by Franca.

Tuffguy

Lot of truth in this quote. But...the Franca fight was the only one he was tested and busted for roids....his previous accomplishments shouldn't be tarnished because of it.

Let's try not to condemn the man on one fight...just like giving props for a lucky punch...let's chalk it up to a "one off" and see what the returning Sherk can do roid free.

Normally I'd say roids wouldn't give you an advantage in an MMA fight since they just allow you to work out longer....Sherk is one giant lumpy muscle...his limbs are just lumps of more muscle protruding from the centre...if he wasn't so huge I'd say the roids didn't do much but since he looks like he juiced and uses his strength to dominate where his technique lacks...I think stripping him from his title was the right thing. If Franca didn't juice either maybe he'd get the title by default.

No time for "what if" let's see what 2008 brings...LET'S GET IT ON C'MON!

RockemSockem

I think it's damn hysterical how people are acting like Sherk will be some kind of chump. Like the only reason he got to where he was is because he used steroids to make himself strong. Go watch All Access: Sean Sherk then come back and say his strength is because of roids. And i know you all watched his fight with Hermes Franca. He dominated Franca on the ground, strength doesn't make you able to hang with a BJJ black belt. If Sherk has been using steroids for a while this will obviously affect his game. But seriously, anyone saying he's not an A level fighter anymore because he won't have roids is either an idiot or blinded by biase. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it needs to be said.

As far as the trash talk, i'm not surprised and don't see why anyone would be. BJ said something to the affect of "Look at him, of course he uses roids." Some kind of reaction was all but guaranteed.

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kev0

BJ said that if Sherk didn't get his name cleared he would refuse to fight him, even if he (BJ) was champ and Sherk was named #1 contender..which is not BJ's call.

And I agree that it seems people are forgetting that Sherk failed for steroids only for the Franca fight. Not when he fought GSP, not when he beat Diaz, and not when he beat Ken-Flo. This obviously does not clear his name for this controversy, but I think it needs to be considered when discussing how this "tarnishes his legacy".

jplaca

Sherk will fall.

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WarDawg

From what Ive read every fighter does NOT get tested every fight. Ive read six get tested. Maybe the info I read is wrong. WarDawg

StratTone

I'm sure Sherk is just angry about the ruling but he really doesn't need to take it out on Penn. Penn is a great fighter as well as Sherk.

asronn

I think your overlooking what steroids does. First off when you get busted it most people assume that it wasnt the first time you used it. it was just the first time you were caught. i also subcribe to that theory. I saw his all access and I still would credit his when over Kenflo and hermes to the roids.

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gazbrook

There's nothing to say that Kenflo didn't use roids either,so that would even it up wouldn't it? There's nothing to say that all of the guys in UFC are using roids. They could just be a lot better at cycling usage and making sure they are out of their system near the time of the blood/urine test.

Before you flame me for suggesting Kenflo uses them. I know his physique doesn't typically fit the bill for a user. It's just an example and different types affect different things. They're not all for huge muscle mass. For the record I'm 100% against steroid usage in MMA.

If Sherk has used steroids for years, I still believe when he fights BJ "clean", he will have sustained enough muscle and strength to overpower him.

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Gooner

Roids or no roids, if Hughes can't overpower BJ, neither can Sherk.

Balee dat.

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MTKrav911

Hermes Franca is easily regarded as pretty damn close to BJ's skill level in BJJ. ANd Franca is a national hero in Brazil in BJJ.


So even more so.

If Hermes who fought Sherk pretty damn tight all the way can't sub Sherk?

BJ is gonna get his ass kicked by SHerk!

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Gooner

So BJJ is all that matters, huh?
How about striking and wrestling? BJ is better than Hermes in all three.


How about if, work with me here, BJ actually stuffs Sherk's takedowns?
I honestly think that's pretty plausible.

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Osnodon

Why don't you ask Din Thomas about the power behind BJ's knees.

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Osnodon

I disagree with basically everything you have said.

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MTKrav911

You have that much confidence in BJ's striking and wrestling?

Hehe.

And Conditioning? for 5, 5 minute rounds vs Sherk who YOU KNOW has it?


Oh, the irony. Oh the entertainment. I cant wait for those odds!!!!!!

(Waits for the old BJ beat Hughes back in 2006 crowd)

I like Penn, I think he's a great guy. I know Sherk is a mini Matt Hughes. But I actually think Sherk is better than Hughes.

Call me a hippy, send me to hell for saying that.

But MtKrav911 thinks Sherks is better than Hughes.

Why?

cause once he said Vision Quest was his favorite movie.

That's why he'll beat Penn

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opsy

It's a comparison of chins. You can't say just because one guy got knocked out by one of his knees, that everyone else will.

Osnodon

It's also a comparison of knees. You can't say just because one guys knees didn't knock him out all knees won't (especially knees with KO power).

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