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01-21-2008, 05:06 PM
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Who's the best TUF fighter?
Swick looked great until he lost, Sanchez looked unbeatable until he lost... two in a row.
In any weight category who from the TUF show do you think has the best chance at winning a belt? 
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01-21-2008, 05:24 PM
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excluding Serra, I would say Forrest Griffin, that was a great win over Shogun and he has improved by leaps and bounds!
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01-21-2008, 05:30 PM
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Off the top of my head:
LW: Stevenson. I think he would be the favorite against Florian, Lauzon, Din, Diaz, Danzig, etc.
WW: Koscheck > Serra and Diego.
MW: Lutter/Cote/Herman/Grove/Bisping... tough call.
LHW: Rashad > Forrest and Jardine.
HW: Erm... Imes?
I don't think Serra will hold onto the belt for too long, and I'm not predicting that any of those guys will become champions really.
But the weakest TUF weight classes have clearly been HW and MW.
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01-21-2008, 05:36 PM
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Yeah, from TUF I mean those who were "discovered" on the show. Not those who made a comeback.
I was just trying to think if the show has found any truly great fighters, and I couldn't think of any off the top of my head. Maybe its just too early.
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01-21-2008, 06:20 PM
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Koscheck, Herman, and Forrest in no real order. Koscheck is the real deal
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01-21-2008, 07:03 PM
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Leben, Jardine, Forrest, Swick, Quarry, Diego, Danzig, Diaz, Maynard, Stevenson, Marcus Davis, Herman, Corey Hill...
All stand-out fighter's, but I think Leben is probably the best to come out of the show, good ground game, great striking... went on a terror before running into Anderson Silva, I think he'll have the belt in 2008 or 2009.
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01-21-2008, 07:21 PM
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Leben? Koscheck would beat him even today though they're in different weight classes.
If Leben ever gets the belt... I don't know, I think that means hell has frozen over.
"Great striking"? No, I just don't see it.
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LW Danzig
WW Serra
MW Swick
LHW Griffin
HW noone
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Quote:
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Leben? Koscheck would beat him even today though they're in different weight classes.
If Leben ever gets the belt... I don't know, I think that means hell has frozen over.
"Great striking"? No, I just don't see it.
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You don't see it yet? I think you better go back and watch a few of his previous fights.
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You don't see it yet? I think you better go back and watch a few of his previous fights.
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Like Silva vs Leben, or Leben vs Starnes?
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Leben? Koscheck would beat him even today though they're in different weight classes.
If Leben ever gets the belt... I don't know, I think that means hell has frozen over.
"Great striking"? No, I just don't see it.
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Try watching that fight again, Koscheck shouldn't have won, he was on top holding Leben not doing anything for most of the fight. The great striking comment, try watching some post-TUF fights with Leben.
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01-21-2008, 09:44 PM
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Really, you guys think Leben has great striking?
So you think his striking is as good as an Anderson Silva or Mirko?
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i still think Digeo is the best overall fighter. BTW is this the same Fozzy from sherdog?
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Originally Posted by Gooner
Off the top of my head:
LW: Stevenson. I think he would be the favorite against Florian, Lauzon, Din, Diaz, Danzig, etc.
WW: Koscheck > Serra and Diego.
MW: Lutter/Cote/Herman/Grove/Bisping... tough call.
LHW: Rashad > Forrest and Jardine.
HW: Erm... Imes?
I don't think Serra will hold onto the belt for too long, and I'm not predicting that any of those guys will become champions really.
But the weakest TUF weight classes have clearly been HW and MW.
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After his last two fights Rashad has shown us that all you need is half decent sprawl, and decent stand up. Griffin would easily beat him by UD with his superior boxing. Rashad doesn't have the power that Keith does to knock him out either. So how do you have him as being better?
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I don't see any sparkly pink belt so I don't think its the same fozzy.
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I think you gotta give it to Griffin. He finished Shogun.
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I think Forest Griffin or Rashad Evans.
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I don't see any sparkly pink belt so I don't think its the same fozzy.
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lol, doesnt look like Dokonjonusuke Mishima is his favorite fighter either.
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After his last two fights Rashad has shown us that all you need is half decent sprawl, and decent stand up. Griffin would easily beat him by UD with his superior boxing. Rashad doesn't have the power that Keith does to knock him out either. So how do you have him as being better?
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I don't get the first sentence. Do you mean that all you need is "half decent sprawl, and decent stand up" to beat him?
I have him being better because I would see him taking Forrest down with ease.
And I don't think Rashad would really be in too much trouble standing either.
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Well the Leben debate is just ridiculous, I like Leben but noway he will hold the belt.
Best tuffer, i would have to say Rashad. He is boring but Im fairly confident that he would LnP his way to a decision against Forrest, who would be second best.
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