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fullonshred

Yes, I am wondering also if Chuck wouldn't decide to use his wrestling skills against Jardine should they meet again. Keith took a trick from Liddell in their last fight, and constantly controlled the distance of their striking exchanges. Keith outstruck Liddell standing, and had very good defense as well. So maybe The Iceman would take the fight to the ground if they met again.

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T-Bone

Yeah, if he's getting chopped down by kicks, he might very well attempt takedowns...and we could even see him try for another spinning backfist.

CounterPuncher

People keep saying that Jardine shouldn't take this fight, but whoever wins will probably get a title shot. So if I was Jardine I would take this fight in a heart beat, unless for some reason he doesn't feel he can beat him again.

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ChipShank

This matchup shouldn't even be an option at this point. Chuck (big star or not) is in the position he's in because he lost 2 of his last 3 fights. No way in hell that Jardine should have to pay for being successful in a matchup he that was believed to have no chance in.
Looking at the rankings (on MMA Weekly at least) Rua is the only fighter above Jardine and unspoken for in upcoming events, that makes any sense at all. Machida is spoken for. Hendo is going down to 185 (for now at least). Jackson is spoken for with the TUF commitment....Jardine just beat Liddell a few months back, WTF should he have to face him again right away? That's a pointless fight at this particular juncture. If Jardine wins...what? He's two up on Chuck...so F'n what? If Chuck wins he & Jardine are sitting 1ea....So what? Are we then forced to go for the best of 3....like the wonderful Arlovski/Sylvia trilogy that screwed sh*t up so bad in the HW division?

I'm guessing that with his ranking and recent run (Alexander not with standing), Jardine SHOULD be in the title picture for the forseeable future...what the hell happens if Chuck does lose to him again? That should virtually eliminate almost any chance of Chuck getting anywhere near a title shot again...with 2 losses to Rampage & 2 losses to Jardine, his only prayer at a title bid would be if Griffin somehow won...or if Wandy somehow leapfrogs him (despite losing his last 3 fights) and takes the title from the winner of Rampage/Forrest.

Jardine vs Rua (to me) is the only logical step right now. If Jardine beats Rua, it proves he's a legit contender and he should be immediately taking on the winner of Jackson/Griffin. If Rua can beat Jardine, it'll show he's back on track and given his overall ranking/status/past history with both Rampage and Griffin, could be in line for a title shot. PLUS, now you've at least got some interesting MMA Mathmatics kicking in too, with the Jardin over Griffin/Griffin over Rua/Rua over Jardine triangle happening.

If the UFC wants even semi-knowledgable fans to take it's rankings/top contender status at all seriously...they need to start making matches that make sense given the fighters current trends. Stop shelving fighters on win streaks, stop bogging down title matches with this stupid TUF sh*t and stop following up bigtime wins with non-sense rematches or "Who-the-F***-is-this-guy" matchups (like in John Fitch's case).

THe UFC match makers need to not play favorites and Chucky needs to swallow a bit of pride and works his way back into the picture like lesser names would. I would much rather see Liddell vs. Sokoudjou or Thiago Silva or even a Bonnar, Gouveia or Sakara before having Jardine have to prove the first matchup wasn't a fluke at this point. Why coddle big names who fall off and penalize up and comers for succeeding. It's BS, IMO.

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Most everyone expects Liddell to win a rematch, so he'd accomplish very little.

I'd much rather see Liddell vs. Shogun and Jardine vs. Thiago Silva. As far as Wandy and Houston Alexander are concerned, they should fight each other.

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stillstanding

Personally, I would like to see chuck vs wilson gouveia or rashad evans...

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Heatwaves

I would like those matchups too, if I got a kick out of yawning.

Only messing with you man.

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funny bro, i guess its better than laughing at your rankings


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Ztous

I can't understand how someone could even consider saying like that. How has it come full circle that after Jardine was supposed to lose and won and now Liddell is the one that shouldn't fight Jardine because he should beat him.

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takenover

You dont ever see chuck putting someone down. He mostly relies on his standup. It seems he brought on the majority of his fans when he punished Tito, and those fans dont want him to lose. He doesnt deserve a rematch just yet.
Keith needs to be able to savor the respect of beating the former champ for a while. Chuck has excellent ground defence, but he hasnt shown anything else when on the ground.

ChipShank

I don't know....I still say that Liddell vs Jardine II makes no sense at all right now. Neither fighter has enough to gain from it, to offset the possible downsides to the fight.
-Jardine should not have to fight Chuck two times in a row to prove anything to anyone....
-A win by Chuck this time around really does not prove all that much in my book...
-Another loss for Chuck to anyone in general would be bad, but another loss to Jardine would all but render Chuck as a non-factor for the LHW title for the near future at least (which may be all that Chuck has left to his career)....
-I'm sorry to have to say it....but with Rampage as champ & Chuck's recent 2 outta 3 slide...he's basically resigned to a gatekeeper position. Especially considering his age. He probably can't wait around too long for Rampage to not be champ anymore...which is the only way he gets another title shot...
-A 100% Rua returning against Jardine proves much more for either fighter and has more possible upsides for both, regardless of the out come. It just makes more sense for both fighters involved...than some sort of rematch that potentially paints the losing fighter into a corner and really does nothing all that positive for the winning fighter.

Jardine has taken down nearly everyone that the UFC has put in front of him, aside from the out and out robbery against Bonnar and moment of poor execution against Alexander...He's proved that he is worthy of climbing the ladder towards a title bid. Why should he have to take a step backwards after the biggest win of his career?
No doubt that Chucky still has some good fights in him...it just won't be for the title while Rampage has the belt. Why not put him in the position of being able to beatdown or validate the rise of up & coming fighters. If he strings together a few KOs & someone has dethroned Rampage...he's right back in the game. If he loses to Jardine now, at this point...it's essentially game over for meaningful fights in his career.
Just too many negatives to a Jardine/Liddell II at this point. A few fights down the road perhaps...if they both continue winning or after Jardine has perhaps had a title shot. But not right now....there's just no point to it at all.
It would just be bad business at this point.

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FightFan76

I dont think them having a quick rematch is such a big deal, I would bet it will be a fun match to watch which is all I care about.

I love how nobody ever refers to Rua as just "Rua", they either gotta throw in "the old" or "a 100%" Rua. B/4 anyone says anything, yes I have seen most of Shogun's fights so dont even bring that up. I personally dont think it matters, I believe Jardine would beat him anyway.....

ChipShank

The 100% was in reaction to quite a few people's claim that Griffin's win over him was somehow a fluke, because Rua was injured, distracted & not all there cardio-wise. I don't personally care for that crap.
Be it Rua, Serra, GSP, Silva or Sylvia....whoever...if you're not up to the task, then bow outta the damn fight. Do the Patriot's have an * next to their win over the Chargers, since 1/2 of the Charger team was banged to sh*t? No...of course not. No difference here, IMO.

As for a instant re-match for Liddell. Cool.....If that's how you see it...I'm not gonna waste my time arguing. I just think that it would be a pointless, cheap attempt to cash in and get Chuck back on a fast track to the top....vs. making any real sense within the general rankings of the LHW division as they currently stand.
That's just my opinion. I want to see good fights...but good fights that serve a purpose.

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It's easy to say those comments based upon history. Liddell was a dominant champion for years. He beat the #1 contender for years. He beat Randy Couture twice. Yada, yada, yada. Yes, there's definitely the possibility (and I'd even say it's inevitable) that his skills may be deteriorating with age. But Jardine doesn't have the same pedigree. He's beaten Liddell and Forrest and some top-10 fringe talent like Gouveia, but he's also lost to Houston and Bonnar. If a rematch did happen who do you think Vegas would consider the favorite? It's really not that unbelievable that people think Liddell would win.

I'm sure that this fight will eventually happen, I just don't want it to happen in the near future. Liddell/Rua would be a lot more compelling, IMO.

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i think there is something to gain for both fighters. for chuck liddell any win is good in the eyes of the ufc, because hes chuck liddell, and personally he gets the chance to avenge a loss. for keith if he can beat the poster boy twice, then surely he has to be in title contention, and personally can prove it wasnt a fluke

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KungFuGrip

Agree Jardine prove us doubters wrong, myself included.

As others stated I like to see different macth ups. Fighters only fight a few times a year, MIX IT UP.

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