Fedor's open letter to Dana White

opsy · 02-08-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by theEmpiric

I am so sick of the back and forth between the UFC, Randy, and Fedor. At this point, Id almost rather see Fedor lose to a nobody and Randy test positive for steroids so we can just move on.

Couldn't agree more. Especially since every time this topic is rehashed people get more and more aggressive in their stance.

Heatwaves · 02-08-2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by opsy

Especially since every time this topic is rehashed people get more and more aggressive in their stance.

Are you talking to me? Are you talking to me? 'Cause I'm the only one here. Screw you, opsy.

lwbfl · 02-08-2008, 07:16 PM

Fedor wants two things, no matter what he's doing. One is to be able to continue his Sambo competitions, and the other is to fight in his home country when they host a large event. If you don't give him those things, which he believes is very important because it shows loyalty to his nation, then he will not agree to anything else. He is very loyal to Russia, and wishes to show his loyalty by representing them THERE.

NWCrazy · 02-08-2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeXVX

very well put but i think you are cutting Vera's legs a bit short. His fight with Tim sucked but he is faster then Fedor and very good in all spects of MMA. I think Fedor v. Vera is one of more interesting fights for him.... besides barnett of course!

I disagree with Vera being faster. I've been following Fedor in Pride since the beginning and he always astounds me how quick he is for a heavyweight. Also, I remember reading about his speed a couple years ago in a Nog interview.

Anyway, you made me do a Google search and I found the old interview.

Here it is...enjoy. Read what Nog and others had to say about Fedor, including about his speed:

Brazilians united to stop Fedor

FightFan76 · 02-08-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jyd94

I agree with Fedors stance, and the fact that he seems to work off of principals as much as anything else. I really really to admire him for that.

I also see the UFC's reasons behind the strict contracts, as a bussiness person I can see the reasons clearly and I understand them.

This is just a situation where Fedor and the fans won't win. The freewheeling MMA days where guys fight all over the place is over, at least when it comes to business in this country.

I understand all the buisness aspects as well but I dont believe it would be a bad buisness move to bend a little bit on very strict stipulations to sign the current #1 ranked HW in the world. To me that is just strait up stubberness on Dana's/UFCs part and I believe it creates what I would call a bad buisness move. Also, it has led to all of this extra drama w/ Randy and Fedor, the UFC is not totally at fault for all of it but they didnt help it either.....

subgenius · 02-08-2008, 09:15 PM

Dana White must have felt Fedor's disturbance in the Force, LOL.

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By Jason Perkins | February 04, 2008

Dana White appeared on the Steve Cofield radio show after UFC 81 to talk about the fights and give his opinions on a variety of issues including Couture and Fedor Emelianenko.

Here are some of the highlights from their conversation:

On UFC vs. PRIDE:

[The PRIDE fighters] didn't flop. I think what happened was we went out and we acquired PRIDE; and these are the fights that everyones been wanting to see forever. To me that's not a flop. I've been saying for years; let's do UFC vs. PRIDE. Let's put our guys against their guys. You know, it's not a flop. Those guys came in and lost.

*It should be noted that both the UFC interim heavyweight champion and the UFC light heavyweight champion are former PRIDE veterans.

White On Frank Mir:

I just went back and grabbed him again and said 'You looked good tonight. Weathered that storm. You hung in their and you did it.' I said 'stop relying on your talent and start working hard at this thing and make a comeback. In this business you have a small window of opportunity and your window is closing brother.'

On Couture and Fedor Emelianenko:

Randy Couture, right now is the best fighter in the world. Fedor is a farce. He [just fought] "Long Duck Dong"...we'll just call him that. It's a joke. This guy hasn't beat anybody since 2005 and you know who was the last guy he beat in 2005? Mirko Cro Cop who just lost to two guy's that nobody's...you know.

LOL. The battle of words continues.

Mutant · 02-08-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Saskabush

I want to add a little here.

I would argue that the "top" HW competition for Fedor is not in the UFC. Who is there, really? Randy is gone, he has already beaten Nog twice with ease, Tim might be leaving, who else is there? Arlovski? AA is a junior Sambo champion while Fedor is the world champion (not sure on exact stats). He has also looked like crap in his last few fights, I think that Fedor would steamroll him. Fedor vs Vera? I don't think that fight would be very competitive either. He also already beat a "prime" CC, and made a mess of Herring.

So tell me this, who exactly among the "top competitors" in the UFC would pose a threat or even make for an entertaining fight?

His biggest challenge imo is Barnett, someone who will most likely never be in the UFC again.

"Prime" Cro Cop? This cracks me up! What exactly decided where his "prime" ended? The same point in his career that he start looking bad and losing to clear underdogs?? Funny...that just so happened to come at the exact time he started in the UFC....coincidence?...I think not. As far as I am concerned all of Fedor's "big" wins are against guys that have not proved that they can hack it in the UFC. The only exception MIGHT be big Nog...but seriously, he almost got cooked by Heath Herring and he got pummeled by big Tim for 2 straight rounds before sneaking in a submission in a title fight that he never should have gotten after his laskluster performance against Herring. Big question mark over his head if you ask me.

Now, don't get me wrong, I am not saying that Fedor is a joke. I am simply saying that he isn't proving otherwise. Period.

NWCrazy · 02-08-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutant

"Prime" Cro Cop? This cracks me up! What exactly decided where his "prime" ended? The same point in his career that he start looking bad and losing to clear underdogs?? Funny...that just so happened to come at the exact time he started in the UFC....coincidence?...I think not. As far as I am concerned all of Fedor's "big" wins are against guys that have not proved that they can hack it in the UFC. The only exception MIGHT be big Nog...but seriously, he almost got cooked by Heath Herring and he got pummeled by big Tim for 2 straight rounds before sneaking in a submission in a title fight that he never should have gotten after his laskluster performance against Herring. Big question mark over his head if you ask me.

Now, don't get me wrong, I am not saying that Fedor is a joke. I am simply saying that he isn't proving otherwise. Period.

C'mon now, we can argue about how Randy beat Gonzaga, who would still be an unknown, if not for the win against CroCop. Then Randy beat Sylvia, who was so afraid of being taken down...never let his hands go. Then we can say how Randy was owned by Chuck in their last two meetings.

The fact is Randy has NOT done much lately either. And you can't compare how Nog handled Sylvia with how Randy handled him. Their approaches/styles are totally different. One may as well say Nog took out Sylvia in 3 rounds and Randy had to get a unanimous decision in 5 rounds. But that would be pointless. A win is a win...period.

But the difference is that Fedor has NOT lost to anyone except to a cut early in his career. You can't argue with that...no matter how you slice it. HE BEAT EVERYBODY-strikers, wrestlers, BJJ experts, Mui Thai fighers and freaks....He just AIN'T lost.

giguer · 02-08-2008, 10:37 PM

Everyone here. Let's make a deal with ESPN or something like that and we do the Fight Couture vs Fedor lol.

Now i'm start to be really sick of the war of the words.

Gooner · 02-09-2008, 02:49 AM

Joe Rogan's opinion on Dana's Fedor-comments:

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Joegan keeping it real.
I wonder if Dana will now bitch-slap Joe...

PINOYPRIDE · 02-09-2008, 03:30 AM

I agree with Joe

Jamal · 02-09-2008, 05:13 AM

Fedor will demolish ANYONE the UFC puts in his way the heavyweight division is only as deep as Nog & Sylvia Fedor is in a different class of his own man, Dana wishes he could sign Fedor

subgenius · 02-09-2008, 09:07 AM

"He talks a lot of ****, but that's why he's good at his job."

Classic.

Saskabush · 02-09-2008, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutant

"Prime" Cro Cop? This cracks me up! What exactly decided where his "prime" ended? The same point in his career that he start looking bad and losing to clear underdogs?? Funny...that just so happened to come at the exact time he started in the UFC....coincidence?...I think not. As far as I am concerned all of Fedor's "big" wins are against guys that have not proved that they can hack it in the UFC. The only exception MIGHT be big Nog...but seriously, he almost got cooked by Heath Herring and he got pummeled by big Tim for 2 straight rounds before sneaking in a submission in a title fight that he never should have gotten after his laskluster performance against Herring. Big question mark over his head if you ask me.

Now, don't get me wrong, I am not saying that Fedor is a joke. I am simply saying that he isn't proving otherwise. Period.

I put prime in quotation marks simply to refer to others believing he is out of it. Sorry for any confusion broseph.

marnold · 02-09-2008, 09:18 AM

Wow, it's like dad came out of his room and told Dana to turn the tv down. I love it. I have no beef with Dana other than his escalating megalomania, but if he cannot see the mistakes Don King made and the price boxing has paid, than he is doomed to relive them.

BCguy · 02-09-2008, 10:49 AM

Dana is gonna slap Rogans pee pee for that interview.

Im so sick of hearing Dana run his mouth about Fedor. So he didn't sign with the UFC. Big deal. You don't see Fedor or M-1 globals representatives running around acting like children slandering Dana or the UFC for not signing him. So why is OK for Dana to do it ? I hope Dana gets raped by a syphilitic donkey.

takenover · 02-09-2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Saskabush

In the last 2 years he has beaten Lindland, Hunt, Coleman, CC, and TK. I'd say they are "decent".

People seem to forget that the dismantling of Pride has had a lot to do with his inactivity. I agree that he needs to step up in competition in the future but it's not like he has been sitting around eating Twinkies and watching Jerry Springer. I think things will soon change in the MMA world, Fedor will fight Barnett by the end of the year, maybe even big Tim.

I have to say he barely beat Lindland, and Hunt, and if it wasnt for the rope grabbing I think Lindland might of had him in trouble IMO. Does he really want a piece of Randy?
I can feel for Dana when half the world is looking at you for answers, and he just cant please everybody. Just being a manager of a semi-large buisness caused me to lose 10 years, I just could imagine the load this guy is under.

BCguy · 02-09-2008, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by takenover

I have to say he barely beat Lindland, and Hunt, and if it wasnt for the rope grabbing I think Lindland might of had him in trouble IMO. Does he really want a piece of Randy?
I can feel for Dana when half the world is looking at you for answers, and he just cant please everybody. Just being a manager of a semi-large buisness caused me to lose 10 years, I just could imagine the load this guy is under.

Fedor is a nightmare match-up for Randy. Everything Randy does , Fedor does better.The only chance i give Randy is opening up a cut with dirty boxing against the cage.

Crazy · 02-09-2008, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GSPALLTHEWAY

i undersatnd you and sask likes fedor... its made very clear...

the hunt fight was a joke, anyone that can take him down will beat him as shown... the other guys? lindland? i mean did he have a chance to beat a major HW? doubtful, hes a MW... i dont know, bring up the MMAweekely top 10 and pick the next 3 guys from there... he has NO business fighting anyone else... its a waste of time

Wich is totaly b******, Silva could not finish him on the ground, he beat cro cop and he is one of the fighters being closest to beat Fedor.

takenover · 02-09-2008, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by GSPALLTHEWAY
i undersatnd you and sask likes fedor... its made very clear...

the hunt fight was a joke, anyone that can take him down will beat him as shown... the other guys? lindland? i mean did he have a chance to beat a major HW? doubtful, hes a MW... i dont know, bring up the MMAweekely top 10 and pick the next 3 guys from there... he has NO business fighting anyone else... its a waste of time

Did you watch those fights? Lindland had a questionable fight with Fedor.You obviously havent with that comment.