NAte quarry vs rich franklin( boggled) - Fight Forum - MMA - UFC - Boxing - K1

TommyGunSexy05 · 10-14-2005, 11:12 PM

Well, i dont know very much about nate quarry but what i do know is that he is off of TUF 1. Not to familiar with the fighter so im not sure. But if he is off the show, how does he have a title shot against rich already. is the mid weight devision that weak. im sure this has already crossed sum of ur minds. thats if its true that hes form TUF 1.. an if he is form Tuf 1, he didint even win the show, i dont really know what happened to him. i think he was injured..

well any ways, can soemone please tell me why nate quaary gots a title fight already...i hAVE SEEN I FEW OF HIS FIGHTS, HE looks sharp, but is it really fare to give him a shot already...mayby im jsut drunk and i dont know what 8im talking botu,, was he is TUF 1..sorry gusy im really drunk right now....i was jsut boggled abotu this for a while....peace and thanckyou...

mortyx · 10-14-2005, 11:25 PM

Good publicity maybe? I wish I knew too. But with all due fairness to Nate Quarry, GSP got a title shot after 2 fights aswell.

Tanner and Loiseau just faught, so it's too soon for them. It's probably just marketing, Quarry is more familiar to the TUF viewers than most other Middle Weights.

Nick the Quick · 10-15-2005, 12:34 AM

Previous thread on the subject

Nates has 3 first round KOs in the UFC (Sell fight may have been stopped too soon). He is in his thirties so they may feel he will have more composure in a championship fight then some of the younger fighters from the show. He trains with Team Quest, so he will be able to go pretty deep with 5 five minute rounds (If he can avoid Rich). And Rich said it himself that he only had 3-4 fights before his title shot.

My thoughts are he doesn't deserve the shot so soon, but but there are not many choices at this moment, and Rich needs a fight. He is good enough to keep Rich honest, but thats it. He will get caught at some point, in the fourth is my prediction.

Now if Nate trains with Kenny Florian, we would have a new champ by elbow from fetal position.

Tank · 10-15-2005, 04:04 AM

Nate got off TUF due to an injury. Randy Couture accidently smashed his leg on a training session. So he was forced to leave the show because the injury looked bad. He was one of the most respected fighters on TUF and it is a shame he didn't get even 1 fight then.
Franklin is the unquestionable favourite but Quarry has a lot of skill to show too. He is far from harmless.Very far.

Goose · 10-15-2005, 07:14 AM

Nate Quarry was elminated from TUF 1 with an ankle injury, publicity maybe one of the reasons he's getting the shot but the middleweight devision is suffering at the moment i thought maybe Deigo Sanchez was in line for the a title shot but he's dropped down to the Welterweight devision however saying that i would like to see him take the title because i think he's good fighter and he's maybe capable of taking the title because he's a little unpredictable and if Franklin doesn't come prepared i think he'll KO him

sitnspin · 10-15-2005, 08:47 AM

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well any ways, can soemone please tell me why nate quaary gots a title fight already...i hAVE SEEN I FEW OF HIS FIGHTS, HE looks sharp, but is it really fare to give him a shot already...mayby im jsut drunk and i dont know what 8im talking botu,, was he is TUF 1..sorry gusy im really drunk right now....i was jsut boggled abotu this for a while....peace and thanckyou...

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That was brilliant. You should post when you're drunk more often.

Master Jones · 10-15-2005, 01:33 PM

There just playing to the crowd, I don't think Zuffa really cares anymore about deserving a title shot or not. As long as people want to see it, thats what they'll do. Period!!

The 5th "NDN" Hokage · 10-15-2005, 02:20 PM

if you know anything about boxing , proper form, execution , economy of motion etc. then you would know that nate quarry just throws arm punches no zip on them at all. but i guess the way he punches has worked for him up to this point. but if he was to fight a guy with crisp hands he would be sleeping,all his weaknesses would be exposed. i believe you have to be equally balanced in all aspects of striking, hands,feet, knees ,elbows, headbutts etc. you must also be equally skilled on the ground. and believe me i know what i'm talking about. oh yeah your striking surfaces should be conditioned to be ready for bare knuckle/streetstyle/valetudo combat. man i could go on forever with what is needed in a fighter.

angryjonny · 10-15-2005, 02:44 PM

I used to be really against the idea of Nate going after Rich but I don't really care that much anymore. Like previously mentioned there isn't anyone else right now, but also Nate is an excellent fighter. He's not the best and he hasn't reallly established "#1 contendor" status but that's okay. It's going to be a great fight regardless of the outcome. I predict Nate will be overwhelmed by Rich's aggressive strikes, and it will probably be a late round 1 TKO from strikes while Nate is on the ground.

Unknown · 10-15-2005, 03:10 PM

As I said last time. My prediction is Franklin by KO. Quarry is getting better every time I see him. The last time I saw him was against Mr. International (not to compare him to Franklin in anyway) and his hands were looking better. And as was mentioned in the other thread, he is training with Team Quest. I think that we will see the best Nate Quarry we have ever seen in this fight. His hands are good enough to knock Franklin out so it’s a puncher’s chance to Quarry.

I see the fight going like this. Franklin and Quarry stay standing because they both prefer to stand. Franklin dominates the stand up and Nate realizes that he has to KO him or loose. He gets aggressive and Franklin catches him on the chin.

But if I were in Quarry shoes I would actually want to bring this fight to the ground because I think that that is the last thing that Franklin would expect. You know that Quarry will be working on the clinch at Team Quest and he could take Franklin down. If he can maintain control on the ground he might be able to edge out a decision or catch a arm. Franklin is no slouch on the ground so this would be hard to do but its possible and I think that this would give him a better chance than standing with Franklin.

subgenius · 10-15-2005, 03:16 PM

Fighting Rich Franklin will be a learning experience for Nate Quarry. Franklin is going to take Quarry to school and teach him championship level competition. I seriously doubt that Quarry can defeat Franklin. Personally, I would give the fight a 10:1 or even 20:1 advantage in Franklin's favor to win this fight. Quarry will definately have butterflies in his stomach. This fight is good for Quarry, even if he loses. He can gain that much needed experience for the future when he steps into a championship fight when he is truly ready for that level. The longer the fight goes, the more Quarry can learn from the loss, IMO.

Unknown · 10-15-2005, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by subgenius

Fighting Rich Franklin will be a learning experience for Nate Quarry. Franklin is going to take Quarry to school and teach him championship level competition. I seriously doubt that Quarry can defeat Franklin. Personally, I would give the fight a 10:1 or even 20:1 advantage in Franklin's favor to win this fight. Quarry will definately have butterflies in his stomach. This fight is good for Quarry, even if he loses. He can gain that much needed experience for the future when he steps into a championship fight when he is truly ready for that level. The longer the fight goes, the more Quarry can learn from the loss, IMO.

As long as they don't release him due to 'poor performance'

glockmn · 10-15-2005, 06:15 PM

I have said it before and i'll say it again there is no one in the UFC that can beat Rich
( at this time)

Unknown · 10-15-2005, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by glockmn

I have said it before and i'll say it again there is no one in the UFC that can beat Rich
( at this time)

I think that Rich is the best at 185 right now but it’s the UFC the best doesn’t always win. If Quarry gets in a lucky shot, or The Crow hits him with a good elbow, or Tanner gets him on the ground and catches an arm Franklin will loose his belt.

[Danny] · 10-15-2005, 11:00 PM

I think Quarry has a better chance than he's given. He has the ability to "pick" his oposing fighters apart, where Franklin has almost Liddell style hands that loop. Quarry is a damn good fighter with the ability to be quick and accurate. I still say Franklin by the judges, but I wouldn't count out Nate.

Catsmasher · 10-16-2005, 06:24 PM

I like both guys but I can't help but think that Quarry has been flung into the deep end far too soon and will get his face smashed as a result.

I could be wrong, but all I see right now is a first round TKO win for Franklin.

glockmn · 10-16-2005, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown

I think that Rich is the best at 185 right now but it’s the UFC the best doesn’t always win. If Quarry gets in a lucky shot, or The Crow hits him with a good elbow, or Tanner gets him on the ground and catches an arm Franklin will loose his belt.

Tanner has had him down but couldn't keep him there,The Crow we will have to see I think that is coming next after he beats Nate I look forward to that fight I think the crow will be a good test

diablerie27 · 10-16-2005, 10:19 PM

i dont think that nate is ready for this fight. he is a great fighter and i wish he was able to finish the season on TUF 1. i cant blame him for taking the shot though. he has a win win situation. if he gets that sot in there and somehow KO's rich he is the champ, and if he loses nobody will blame him since the overwelming majority seems to think that he is not ready for this fight. i wish him luck since i reallu like him as a fighter, however i think he will be on the recieving end of a first or second round TKO at the hands of ace.

subgenius · 10-17-2005, 12:27 AM

The best that Quarry can hope for, IMO, is to make it a really great fight. If he comes out and seriously makes Franklin have to fight him, the Quarry can say he left it in the octagon... that he gave it everything 110%. Tanner did put up some good fights with Franklin. I actually enjoy watching them when I can. Tanner can improve. I bet Quarry learns a lot from this fight with Franklin even if Quarry losses...

IYAOYAS · 10-17-2005, 06:06 AM

What have we really seen of Quarry? A TKO over Shonie Carter midway through the 1st round and a quick TKO over Pete Sell. Quarry can definitly take a punch. I think he will surprise in this fight, but Franklin will prevail.