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02-13-2008, 11:51 AM
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dammit i didnt read into the other crocop thread, mods can you please merge my thread with the other one?
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02-13-2008, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by nublood
And for those wondering how I could call him a coward then just think about what he did:
-Agreed to fight for the UFC
-Wins 1 fight and then loses 2 in a row (in which he wasn't really even
competitive)
-Was never cordial or professional with UFC management
-Broke his agreement
-Runs back to Japan
-Goes back to fighting basically the same pool of fighters he kicked around in
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Christ, that's some seriously biased BS.
What agreement did he break?
Have you even read any of these reports?
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02-13-2008, 12:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nublood
Some of you have disagreed with me and that is fine. Opinions are what makes teh internetz go round!  Seriously though, CC is ducking cagefighting....plain and simple. Pay has little to do with it because the UFC wasn't cutting his pay that much anyway. He wants to fight in a ring where he can utilize his kickboxing background. He could not do that in the UFC. He took the easy way out and is fighting lesser competition and he knows it. He was never happy fighting for an American org anyway. I'm sorry but IMO I have lost respect for him.
Edit: And for those wondering how I could call him a coward then just think about what he did:
-Agreed to fight for the UFC
-Wins 1 fight and then loses 2 in a row (in which he wasn't really even
competitive)
-Was never cordial or professional with UFC management
-Broke his agreement
-Runs back to Japan
-Goes back to fighting basically the same pool of fighters he kicked around in
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At least I respect him more then you after reading what you wrote 
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02-13-2008, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mouth For War
dammit i didnt read into the other crocop thread, mods can you please merge my thread with the other one?
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Done 
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02-13-2008, 12:04 PM
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OHHHH SNAP
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02-13-2008, 12:13 PM
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LMAO! Nice one Rumbin!
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02-13-2008, 12:13 PM
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I just realized how much I want to see Manhoef vs Crocop.
NOW!!
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02-13-2008, 12:16 PM
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ahaha Crocop is the token Croat
lol seriously, wish him the best and i hope this is a respectful departure for both parties
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02-13-2008, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Gooner
Christ, that's some seriously biased BS.
What agreement did he break?
Have you even read any of these reports?
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Biased? I've been a fan of CroCop since he ko'd Dan Nortje back in his kickboxing days. To say I'm biased against him is kind of an insult to me. I didn't pull these facts out of thin air. The only thing that is debatable is his broken agreement with the UFC. He stated at the K-1 press conference that he will return to the UFC some day. He probably never will though.
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02-13-2008, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rumbin
OHHHH SNAP
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LOL . Thats some funny stuff Rumbin.
You know if CC does well in DREAM Dana will just say "I have all the guys that kick his ass and he can't compete at top level" (At least that's what I think he say)
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02-13-2008, 12:25 PM
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in nublood's defense, there were always reports of primadonnism toward ufc policies by mirko
but i wouldnt bash him for it
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02-13-2008, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by OneBigThrow
in nublood's defense, there were always reports of primadonnism toward ufc policies by mirko
but i wouldnt bash him for it
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What does that mean? What happen?
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02-13-2008, 12:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterMWM
What does that mean? What happen?
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Crocop has been refered to as somewhat of a dick for awhile now.
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02-13-2008, 12:33 PM
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the stuff about not attending press conferences
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02-13-2008, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nublood
Biased? I've been a fan of CroCop since he ko'd Dan Nortje back in his kickboxing days. To say I'm biased against him is kind of an insult to me. I didn't pull these facts out of thin air. The only thing that is debatable is his broken agreement with the UFC. He stated at the K-1 press conference that he will return to the UFC some day. He probably never will though.
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No **** you've been his fan. You're acting like he's your boyfriend and just cheated on you by leaving the UFC.
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-Agreed to fight for the UFC
-Wins 1 fight and then loses 2 in a row (in which he wasn't really even
competitive)
-Was never cordial or professional with UFC management
-Broke his agreement
-Runs back to Japan
-Goes back to fighting basically the same pool of fighters he kicked around in
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Yeah, nice "facts" there.
-agreed to fight... went 1-2... yeah OK.
-was never cordial... because he wasn't at that one press conference? What else? So UFC was professional? CC said he had no idea about that famous "deadline" Dana was quoted as saying. But yeah, you just know that CC was the one ****ing up. No bias here.
-broke his agreement... Only a while back he said he's willing to face anyone in the UFC. Now they're reporting that the UFC was trying to force him to take a pay-cut or make him sit out the rest of his contract. I guess that means CC broke the agreement. 
-runs back to Japan... here's you just being pissy about the whole deal. Clearly he's afraid of the UFC heavyweights. Again, from what I understand, they tried to re-negotiate his contract, he declined, and took a better contract from DREAM.
-same pool... I'm not sure DREAM has that many heavyweights he's faced before tbh.
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02-13-2008, 12:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OneBigThrow
in nublood's defense, there were always reports of primadonnism toward ufc policies by mirko
but i wouldnt bash him for it
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When everything is said and done, I'll still be a fan of CroCop. I've just lost some respect for him. The Pride ship started sinking, he jumped ship to the UFC, and now that the Pride entity has resurfaced he's back on board again! I just don't think Mirko would be leaving if he was 3-0 instead of 1-2. That's the point I'm trying to make Gooner.
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02-13-2008, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by OneBigThrow
the stuff about not attending press conferences
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Gotcha. I alway saw Mirko as a man of few words. He even comes off as a shy guy or as we say it today "social aniexty disorder.
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02-13-2008, 12:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nublood
When everything is said and done, I'll still be a fan of CroCop. I've just lost some respect for him. The Pride ship started sinking, he jumped ship to the UFC, and now that the Pride entity has resurfaced he's back on board again! I just don't think Mirko would be leaving if he was 3-0 instead of 1-2. That's the point I'm trying to make Gooner.
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If Mirko was 3-0 in the ufc he probably have the HW title and couldn't leave unless he pulled a Randy.
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02-13-2008, 12:48 PM
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Spurrier went back to college after not making it in the NFL. I didn't think of this as defeat, it is just his game is suited for college.
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02-13-2008, 12:50 PM
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as a crocop fan, i couldnt have been anymore disappointed by his performance and brief stint in the UFC
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