CroCop has officially left the UFC

GSPALLTHEWAY · 02-13-2008, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by marnold

Spurrier went back to college after not making it in the NFL. I didn't think of this as defeat, it is just his game is suited for college.

you didnt?? i did.... he was defeated by the NFL... rick pitino was defeated by the NBA... what your saying is just semantics... if you move up to another level and fail, then you fail... i dont see any room for debate on that?

KRONOS · 02-13-2008, 01:10 PM

It's time to move on for Crocop. The cage and Crocop did not mix well together, it happens let it be!

Some people can't adapt so what? I'm sure if you throw some UFC fighters in a ring some would have a hard time adapting to it.

Crocop is not a coward. He whoooooped many @sses in his career, him leaving the UFC does NOT make him a coward. The glove just didn't fit well so time to go.

I'm a Crocop fan and I hope the best for him where ever he goes.

The sad part is that douche bag Dana is going to start talking **** about Crocop like he did about Fedor and now Randy.

Crocop I still got your back!!!

HaVoK · 02-13-2008, 01:30 PM

I want to see the trash Dana says about Cro Cop now. What is Dana going to do if Sylvia and Arlovski leave too. The heavyweight division will go to crap all over again. I am happy Cro Cop is going to fight soon and I'm curious to see how this Dream promotion does.

Pitbull · 02-13-2008, 01:58 PM

Wow, pretty disappointing news.

F_B · 02-13-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KRONOS

It's time to move on for Crocop. The cage and Crocop did not mix well together, it happens let it be!

Some people can't adapt so what? I'm sure if you throw some UFC fighters in a ring some would have a hard time adapting to it.

Crocop is not a coward. He whoooooped many @sses in his career, him leaving the UFC does NOT make him a coward. The glove just didn't fit well so time to go.

I'm a Crocop fan and I hope the best for him where ever he goes.

The sad part is that douche bag Dana is going to start talking **** about Crocop like he did about Fedor and now Randy.

Crocop I still got your back!!!

That video in your sig brought tears to my eyes.

takeAnap · 02-13-2008, 02:13 PM

That sucks the CC is leaving the UFC, more so that it will be harder to catch his fights. None the less, I think CC is a great fighter, one of the most exciting fighters that I've ever seen. I hope to see him back in action soon!

khodey · 02-13-2008, 02:29 PM

Seriously though... Cro Cop has a family, lives in another country, and isnt they type of guy to adhear to all of Dana's demands.

The move for him in my oppinion is a good one. He deserves the money he was payed in PRIDE and the UFC. It was an insult to him to rewrite his contract for less money, just because he lost 2 fights. He will do well in this promotion I'm sure.

But when it comes down to it, He has to support his family.
This promotion will most likely fight closer to home for him, and meet his requests contractually.
Plus its in a ring, which is Cro cops home.

Perfect for Cro Cop, His true fans will still support him.

KungFuGrip · 02-13-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HaVoK

I want to see the trash Dana says about Cro Cop now. What is Dana going to do if Sylvia and Arlovski leave too. The heavyweight division will go to crap all over again. I am happy Cro Cop is going to fight soon and I'm curious to see how this Dream promotion does.

Me too. I would think not so good, due to people like me having trouble purchasing the event. I'm not goin to suscribe to some weird cable company, I never heard of, to watch it either.

KRONOS · 02-13-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by F_B

That video in your sig brought tears to my eyes.

Yeah...that video is AWESOME!!!

I recorded the soundtrack into my MP3 player and play it at the gym when I'm workingout. It makes me push my limits.

Crocop!!!!!

jolucas · 02-13-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GSPALLTHEWAY

you didnt?? i did.... he was defeated by the NFL... rick pitino was defeated by the NBA... what your saying is just semantics... if you move up to another level and fail, then you fail... i dont see any room for debate on that?

As far as college football coaches moving up to the nfl or vice versa I wouldn't call a failure with the switch a horrible defeat. College football and the NFL are two completely different games that require two different types of coaches to be succesful and I am not even refering to the actual of the field game. Recruiting and boosters and juggling scholarships ect is far different then the draft and owners and the players union ect... Having said that I will say that Spurrier is a complete failure and in time so will "The Evil One" Urban Meyer(yes I hate UF)

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GSPALLTHEWAY · 02-13-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jolucas

As far as college football coaches moving up to the nfl or vice versa I wouldn't call a failure with the switch a horrible defeat. College football and the NFL are two completely different games that require two different types of coaches to be succesful and I am not even refering to the actual of the field game. Recruiting and boosters and juggling scholarships ect is far different then the draft and owners and the players union ect... Having said that I will say that Spurrier is a complete failure and in time so will "The Evil One" Urban Meyer(yes I hate UF)

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fine, but point being is a cage vs a ring really shouldnt turn a A level fighter into a scrub

jolucas · 02-13-2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GSPALLTHEWAY

fine, but point being is a cage vs a ring really shouldnt turn a A level fighter into a scrub

That I will agree with. The cage shouldn't make that huge of a difference. Afterall CroCop was suppose to quickly tear(sp?) thru the division when he came in on his way to the title. Obviously nothing close to that happened. It is really a shame. My friends and I were jacked when he signed.

Rumbin · 02-13-2008, 02:56 PM

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From: CindyO
Date: 02/13/08 06:02 AM
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I just talked to DW and this is what he had to say:
The split was amicable and the terms were decided on in advance. Cro Cops $350k (plus bonuses) contract had a clause in it stating that if he lost two consecutive fights Zuffa had the right to void the existing agreement and negotiate a new one.

CC never dreamed that he would be so overwhelmed by the level of competition he has faced in the UFC so far and and the losses have impacted him mentally.

The UFC did NOT cut Cro Cop from the roster nor did they threaten to make him sit out until his contract expired if he didn't take the pay cut deal.

Rather than negotiate a new contract with the UFC right now (and risk racking up more losses), Cro Cop wants to get a couple of tune up fights (and wins) in some of the smaller shows (no more tune up matches for him in the UFC) in hopes of rebuilding his confidence and getting himself back on track.

DW understood completely and supported Cro Cop in his decision. The last thing DW wants to do is shell out a six-figure purse to a fighter that isn't fighting worth a dayum. Even though it would have been lower than the original figure, it would still be a waste of money and resources.

There's an arrangement/understanding that if CC is able to rack up a couple of wins in some of the smaller shows (and can get his head screwed back on straight) DW will let him come back to the UFC (if he wants to) and go after the title again.

DW likes CC and respects and supports his decision on this. He completely expects to see CC back inside the Octagon in the future landing head kicks just like before... if not better.

Just thought I'd pass this along

Cindy

Saskabush · 02-13-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GSPALLTHEWAY

fine, but point being is a cage vs a ring really shouldnt turn a A level fighter into a scrub

A scrub? That's a little harsh. Is Chuck a scrub because he lost 2 in a row? Wandy?

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From: CindyO
Date: 02/13/08 06:02 AM
Member Since: 02/10/2006
4234 Total Posts Ignore User

I just talked to DW and this is what he had to say:
The split was amicable and the terms were decided on in advance. Cro Cops $350k (plus bonuses) contract had a clause in it stating that if he lost two consecutive fights Zuffa had the right to void the existing agreement and negotiate a new one.

CC never dreamed that he would be so overwhelmed by the level of competition he has faced in the UFC so far and and the losses have impacted him mentally.

The UFC did NOT cut Cro Cop from the roster nor did they threaten to make him sit out until his contract expired if he didn't take the pay cut deal.

Rather than negotiate a new contract with the UFC right now (and risk racking up more losses), Cro Cop wants to get a couple of tune up fights (and wins) in some of the smaller shows (no more tune up matches for him in the UFC) in hopes of rebuilding his confidence and getting himself back on track.

DW understood completely and supported Cro Cop in his decision. The last thing DW wants to do is shell out a six-figure purse to a fighter that isn't fighting worth a dayum. Even though it would have been lower than the original figure, it would still be a waste of money and resources.

There's an arrangement/understanding that if CC is able to rack up a couple of wins in some of the smaller shows (and can get his head screwed back on straight) DW will let him come back to the UFC (if he wants to) and go after the title again.

DW likes CC and respects and supports his decision on this. He completely expects to see CC back inside the Octagon in the future landing head kicks just like before... if not better.

Just thought I'd pass this along

Cindy

I saw this as well but a number of posters said this woman has proved to be an unreliable source in the past. The funniest part I saw was that she claimed that "a Japanese fighter spiked Sherk's supplements with steroids" or something of that sort lol.

Rumbin · 02-13-2008, 03:06 PM

Yeah just seemed interesting.

I seriously just want to see Crocop vs Melvin Manhoef and I am satisfied

KungFuGrip · 02-13-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rumbin

The worlds best source for Mixed Martial Arts information.

From: CindyO
Date: 02/13/08 06:02 AM
Member Since: 02/10/2006
4234 Total Posts Ignore User

I just talked to DW and this is what he had to say:
The split was amicable and the terms were decided on in advance. Cro Cops $350k (plus bonuses) contract had a clause in it stating that if he lost two consecutive fights Zuffa had the right to void the existing agreement and negotiate a new one.

CC never dreamed that he would be so overwhelmed by the level of competition he has faced in the UFC so far and and the losses have impacted him mentally.

The UFC did NOT cut Cro Cop from the roster nor did they threaten to make him sit out until his contract expired if he didn't take the pay cut deal.

Rather than negotiate a new contract with the UFC right now (and risk racking up more losses), Cro Cop wants to get a couple of tune up fights (and wins) in some of the smaller shows (no more tune up matches for him in the UFC) in hopes of rebuilding his confidence and getting himself back on track.

DW understood completely and supported Cro Cop in his decision. The last thing DW wants to do is shell out a six-figure purse to a fighter that isn't fighting worth a dayum. Even though it would have been lower than the original figure, it would still be a waste of money and resources.

There's an arrangement/understanding that if CC is able to rack up a couple of wins in some of the smaller shows (and can get his head screwed back on straight) DW will let him come back to the UFC (if he wants to) and go after the title again.

DW likes CC and respects and supports his decision on this. He completely expects to see CC back inside the Octagon in the future landing head kicks just like before... if not better.

Just thought I'd pass this along

Cindy

Lol Nice, Its never as bad as it seems,(except for the Randy situation.)

Ryduce · 02-13-2008, 03:33 PM

Meh,I'm over him.

UFC and Dana sunk a whole bunch of money in him because he was a walking HL reel.Mirko wasn't interested in in being UFC champion,he knew Pride was a sinking ship,and wanted to make a premium pay check until the next big Japanese promotion emerged.Now he'll go back to fighting Ishida and Minowa and two KOs later he'll be #3 HW again.He extorted UFC and all of his American fanbase for all they're worth.

Rumbin · 02-13-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryduce

Meh,I'm over him.

UFC and Dana sunk a whole bunch of money in him because he was a walking HL reel.Mirko wasn't interested in in being UFC champion,he knew Pride was a sinking ship,and wanted to make a premium pay check until the next big Japanese promotion emerged.Now he'll go back to fighting Ishida and Minowa and two KOs later he'll be #3 HW again.He extorted UFC and all of his American fanbase for all they're worth.

Best post ever. Bravo

GSPALLTHEWAY · 02-13-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryduce

Meh,I'm over him.

UFC and Dana sunk a whole bunch of money in him because he was a walking HL reel.Mirko wasn't interested in in being UFC champion,he knew Pride was a sinking ship,and wanted to make a premium pay check until the next big Japanese promotion emerged.Now he'll go back to fighting Ishida and Minowa and two KOs later he'll be #3 HW again.He extorted UFC and all of his American fanbase for all they're worth.

he didnt extort anything except money... as far as his career, its totally off track and he has two horrible losses that itll take awhile to get over...

NateRupe · 02-13-2008, 04:01 PM

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Meh,I'm over him.

UFC and Dana sunk a whole bunch of money in him because he was a walking HL reel.Mirko wasn't interested in in being UFC champion,he knew Pride was a sinking ship,and wanted to make a premium pay check until the next big Japanese promotion emerged.Now he'll go back to fighting Ishida and Minowa and two KOs later he'll be #3 HW again.He extorted UFC and all of his American fanbase for all they're worth.

I agree with that 100%. I did like Cro Cop because he seemed to be an exciting fighter when he first came into the UFC but man he just seemed so overrated it wasn't even funny, I guess he was just waiting and building popularity before he could get the choice to go back to Japan.