I'm sorry but I really want to see A.Silva lose

earvinarp · 03-01-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mackem_111

but this guy he fights tonight is a tomato can,right?

That's assumed. He should be fighting Franklin.

earvinarp · 03-01-2008, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rumbin

Wouldnt be suprised if Bisping gets one if he rolls McCarthy. If its a WAR tonight I wouldnt be shocked if there is a rematch. If not, Okami/Tanner should get the winner

With all due respect, Tanner should not get a title shot any time soon. The UFC is already doing him a favor having him fight n#1 contender, Okami. But, at the same time, the UFC is doing him a DISfavor by having him face such tough opposition.

mackem_111 · 03-01-2008, 12:17 PM

do you know,was bisping offered the franklin fight?

earvinarp · 03-01-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mackem_111

do you know,was bisping offered the franklin fight?

I don't think so. But why have a LHW headliner face a nobody MW when you have the former champ available? The UFC acts in mysterious ways.

mackem_111 · 03-01-2008, 01:10 PM

bisping v franklin woulve been huge.i dunno,maybe dana is spoon feeding bisping after his last couple of performances. he's a gateway to money for the ufc in england,so hopefully that fight will take place over here in the summer

cmj · 03-01-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mackem_111

don't you guys want to see Silva defend the title ten times or more? surely this would be good fot the UFC?

Unfortunately, not many fans want to see a champion go on a long winning streak.

TheSteveOfMean · 03-01-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by earvinarp

That's assumed. He should be fighting Franklin.

Bisping isn't fighting tonight though?

mackem_111 · 03-01-2008, 01:32 PM

no,hes fighting at ufc 84 i think. what do you guys think of bisping,cos i hear the U.S. fans dont like him much

TheSteveOfMean · 03-01-2008, 01:45 PM

Ah thought it was mentioned he was fighting tonight, which he isn't. I would like to think Bisping could be a player at 185, but ultimately, I need to see him actually fight at this weight to gain better judgement. To be fair mate, us Brits discuss him quite a lot and it's only fair to everyone that we don't hijack other threads with him all the time. Probably why some people claim he is overrated etc.

fullonshred · 03-01-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mackem_111

bisping v franklin woulve been huge.i dunno,maybe dana is spoon feeding bisping after his last couple of performances. he's a gateway to money for the ufc in england,so hopefully that fight will take place over here in the summer

And here we have a winner. UFC is desperate to build some cred, any cred for Bisping. He was beaten badly by Hamill and awarded an egregious decision, then lost to Rashad Evans, and then dropped to MW, effectively admitting he cannot compete at 205. Soooooo, UFC is trying hard to get the Bisping train running again.

earvinarp · 03-01-2008, 02:42 PM

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Soooooo, UFC is trying hard to get the Bisping train running again.

Yes, so the British fans can keep buying tickets and discussing him in online forums...

ChipShank · 03-01-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fullonshred

I still hope Dan wins, but I will say this; The speed that Silva develops with his punches is phenomenal! I was watching FightQuest and on one of the episodes the Sensei was speaking of "Think of cracking a whip when you punch or kick", and this is what Silva does. It is like a whip, or like throwing rocks from and old style slingshot - there is so much SNAP! to his strikes! He develops amazing terminal handspeed. I would love to be able to strike like that.

That's an interesting point, now that you mentioned it. Very true...He does it so efficiently, without the big ol telegraphed windup. He just snaps them out there quickly & accurately.
It's kind of akin to a quarterback in football, who has a real quick, sharp release on his throws...as opposed to the dude who has to plant, windup and heave the ball down the field. Not only is that quicker motion more efficient, but the reaction time of the defenders needs to be so much quicker since they're barely getting any read off of any sort of a windup motion.
Combined that with his accuracy....friggin ouch! LOL

On the thread topic....I have nothing against Silva, his nationality or whatever...I just happen to like Hendo and have a natural penchant for supporting the underdog. I just always tend to root against the Dynasty-types. Be it the Patriots, the Yankees, Cowboys, Lakers, Hughes, Gomi....etc.
Except Tiger Woods (LOL). I'm actually hoping that he wins at least 3 majors this year and breaks the consecutive win streak.

nublood · 03-01-2008, 08:30 PM

For the record, I don't have anything personally against Silva. I hate to see the race card being pulled in here and I don't want to be associated with it. I just want to see anybody beat Silva. It's nothing personal though.

BCguy · 03-02-2008, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nublood

For the record, I don't have anything personally against Silva. I hate to see the race card being pulled in here and I don't want to be associated with it. I just want to see anybody beat Silva. It's nothing personal though.

Who played the race card ?

giguer · 03-02-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BCguy

Who played the race card ?

Me and you, poker right now

Mulla · 03-03-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by earvinarp

Yes, so the British fans can keep buying tickets and discussing him in online forums...

Im guessing you mean the casual British fans?

Cos its kinda insulting for you to assume that British true MMA fans would only buy tickets if a Brit is on the card...

earvinarp · 03-03-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mulla

Im guessing you mean the casual British fans?

Cos its kinda insulting for you to assume that British true MMA fans would only buy tickets if a Brit is on the card...

Of course I mean "casual." Aren't most fans casual anyway? How many people who buy a ticket in England to see the UFC are actually involved on a daily basis in mma? And of course Bisping is the biggest draw the UFC has in England. Maybe he does not do it for you, but he obviously does for many, or so the UFC thinks. If it weren't so, why the careful path they have crafted for him?

takenover · 03-04-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nublood

I've got nothing against the guy because he's a phenomenal fighter. But ever since he manhandled my boy Ace I've been jonesin' for him to get beat. I was on the edge of my seat when Travis Lutter almost had him a couple of times lol. I feel like Hendo has the best chance of any middleweight to beat him right now. If Dan don't beat him, I don't see anybody else that can unless somebody else drops to middleweight.

C'mon Dan! Make it happen bro!

Now you'll have to wait for the ufc to digup, move weights,
market, hire the terminator before this will happen.

UFC_Legacy · 03-04-2008, 12:39 PM

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Of course I mean "casual." Aren't most fans casual anyway? How many people who buy a ticket in England to see the UFC are actually involved on a daily basis in mma? And of course Bisping is the biggest draw the UFC has in England. Maybe he does not do it for you, but he obviously does for many, or so the UFC thinks. If it weren't so, why the careful path they have crafted for him?

No I must disagree Bisping is not enough to draw me in to buy a ticket! The Iceman is though! I speak for a large group of MMA fans who I know well enough.

Although I support my country men and wish them well in all sporting activities (Like any Englishman) I am a fan of MMA first and fore most. Hence people like Hughes, Silva, Jackson, Liddell are going to put my rear end in a seat. If is Bisping is ever on a British card he is going to get a huge pop from the crowd but Chuck is gonna get an even bigger one no doubt in London!