dsver1

I'm not going to say which fights this occurred in, but we saw a number of fighters full-on running away from their opponents when coming up against a hail of strikes.

At what point does turning your back and running away become a penalty situation? I feel it puts the fighter in danger (opening themselves up to accidental rear strikes) and is just bad form. One of the UFC judging criteria is "Effective Aggressiveness" and this seems to be just the opposite.

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Ryduce

Track skills and urkel punching.

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Pitbull

I'm not sure I understand your position, dsver. Are you saying that running from your opponent is bad form or penalizing a fighter for running is bad form?

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FatCat

I think it's pretty obvious a few of the judges made the deductions for the ref. I've never seen a 30-24 score in an MMA fight before. It's about time really.

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dsver1

The former. Running from your opponent is bad form and basically putting yourself in a dangerous position. Now, granted it could be argued that this running is strategy to wear the opponent down, but I just see it as running away. Oh, and I mean constant running, not just once or twice in a fight. Some fighters try to escape a majority of striking encounters this way.

I'm for penalizing.

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kev0

my jaw dropped when i heard 30-24.

Pitbull

Gotcha. Yeah, its no fun when an opponent isn't willing to engage. The rules like to call "Timidity."

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hambone

Hell yeah, penalize. That was ridiculous. I'm sure the rules state that avoidance will result in point deduction or a restart or something. IMO "that" fight almost should've been a DQ.

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FatCat

Lol, me too. Completely shocked. I think it needs to happen more often though. Not necessarily 30-24's but 10-8's for sure. I don't think the 10 point must system would be such a problem if judges were more liberal with the 10-8 round. Can't say that I disagreed with the 30-24 at all though.

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giguer

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Tinker Bell

The referees most def. should penalize if the fighter fails to engage or is back pedaling the entire fight and doing absolutely nothing. We've seen it happen before in some fights but never to this extent. Getting hit hard and then trying to get out of it by circling is one thing, but turning your back and sprinting is another. And by running away what is the other fighter suppose to do, chase you and risk getting a point deducted for hitting you in the back of the head when it's your fault? It's total crap. I also found it a bit funny and ironic that Florian commented on it, when he almost KO'ed himself running into the cage in his fight against Sherk! I always liked Prides system. Taking money away from their purse is a sure way to make any fighter engage more.

hambone

Florian was trying to escape a bad situation whereas this guy was just scared. btw i'm no Florian fan.

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Heatwaves

No doubt. Do you think he even made it back to the locker room before Dana gave him the permanent boot?

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AikaImmortal

It is actually in the rules but it never gets called it seems. For those who are too lazy to read all of the posts and will miss Pitbulls... from the Unified Rules of Mixed Martial Arts:

Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury.

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The-Iceman-Chuck-Liddell

It was so sad seeing that dude running around in there. Ken was right about him

Jumpin Jack Flash

yeah i'd agree with penalty's for "running away" from an opponenet excessively.

I can understand it if its part of a strategy to wear a big guy down but tbh i personally dont like it when its constant. Its weird you mention this because i watched cro cop vs hunt the other nite their again and his reluctance to engage was annoyin me lol.

So yeah, get em yellow carded for runnin!

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LABJJ

I do not condone running away, but I do not think he thought the strikes were going to be improved that much. I was surprised how fluid and crisp they were. I think it was obvious that he did not train for this improved striking. But in the same since, should have used his ground game to try to squash the stand up. He is a fighter and that is his job, but I do understand why he was running, because if one of those caught him, he was going to sleep.

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bayouboy

Yea...Florian is not a good comparison.

Anyway, I thought it was ridiculous and frustrating to watch.

majestyk1976

I agree with this part after seeing the fight. A complete disrespect for MMA in his performance and post fight actions. I wouldn't be surprised if the UFC dropped him because you sure aren't going to see him on TV anymore.

JoeRoganismyhero

I don't understand what he was doing in there. He ran away from strikes, didn't go for a take down, and didn't strike much. If he put half the effort he did when he flipped off his opponent and was getting into it with the crowd, it might actually have been a good fight. I'm glad that one judge score it 10-8every round, because that is what that pathetic performance deserved. I never boo a fighter or a fight but if I was in that audience, that might have been the first time I booed a fighter.

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