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i want to see Brock fight again for sure. He's a physical monster compared to everyone else in the UFC. Once he gains some experience he'll be championship material.
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Disco, your comments about Brock being too big are amusing. He has dropped 20-30lbs to be able to compete. If anything, he's far smaller and faster than he's been since probably his freshman year in university. As for his conditioning, Brock has always been known as a cardio monster. There are middleweights that could learn a thing or two from him (I think we all know who those guys are).
Brock is also shocking fast and agile. Not for his size, for any man's size. Look at his two fights and see how quick his takedowns are. Nobody shoots like that. And as for his agility, this is a man who at near 300lbs used to do a shooting star press as his finishing move in wrestling. I know, I'm probably opening a can of worms there but unless you've seen it you can't know how impressive it is to see a man that big move his body with so much grace and, yes, flexibility. He may or may not succeed in MMA but his physique, conditioning, flexibility, and agility are all a plus for him
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Kimbo > Lesner. Having said that, it would be my most wanted match currently. Two MMA nobodys who would brawl it out. What choice do they have except to brawl? It's not like they are going to submit each other.
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Disco, your comments about Brock being too big are amusing. He has dropped 20-30lbs to be able to compete. If anything, he's far smaller and faster than he's been since probably his freshman year in university. As for his conditioning, Brock has always been known as a cardio monster. There are middleweights that could learn a thing or two from him (I think we all know who those guys are).
Brock is also shocking fast and agile. Not for his size, for any man's size. Look at his two fights and see how quick his takedowns are. Nobody shoots like that. And as for his agility, this is a man who at near 300lbs used to do a shooting star press as his finishing move in wrestling. I know, I'm probably opening a can of worms there but unless you've seen it you can't know how impressive it is to see a man that big move his body with so much grace and, yes, flexibility. He may or may not succeed in MMA but his physique, conditioning, flexibility, and agility are all a plus for him
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Kimbo > Lesner. Having said that, it would be my most wanted match currently. Two MMA nobodys who would brawl it out. What choice do they have except to brawl? It's not like they are going to submit each other.
Ehh, I'm gonna have to completely disagree with you here. Kimbo would be on his back in a matter of seconds and would be eating a plethora of elbows, punches, and hammer fists. Brock cuts a few pounds to get to 265 which means he'd outweigh Kimbo by at least 30 lbs. come fight time. I'm a pretty big Kimbo fan, but unless he catches Brock with a big shot during the few seconds he'll have on his feet, he'd lose this one.
I'm still not quite sure why Brock is getting so little respect, he's a genetic freak that has a legitimate pedigree, he's a hard worker, and he's got cardio for days. He only matches up poorly against 2 UFC heavies, and he's already fought one.
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Ehh, I'm gonna have to completely disagree with you here. Kimbo would be on his back in a matter of seconds and would be eating a plethora of elbows, punches, and hammer fists. Brock cuts a few pounds to get to 265 which means he'd outweigh Kimbo by at least 30 lbs. come fight time. I'm a pretty big Kimbo fan, but unless he catches Brock with a big shot during the few seconds he'll have on his feet, he'd lose this one.
I'm still not quite sure why Brock is getting so little respect, he's a genetic freak that has a legitimate pedigree, he's a hard worker, and he's got cardio for days. He only matches up poorly against 2 UFC heavies, and he's already fought one.
Sorry ge master, as much as I criticize Brock, homeboy's got a point. Brock would embarass Kimbo. Let's make the grand assumption Kimbo's strength is even near equal to Brock's: Brock's technique is better. And yes, probably his cardio too. Guy's been fighting his whole life UNDER TRAINERS. Kimbo, I think, just joined a gym. He knows a few tricks, maybe got a little discipline... but against Brock?... no, noway.
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Brock Lesner is a ****ing former TNA or WWE or what ever the hell he was in fighter,(if you would even call him a fighter)the **** he did was fake!!!!
And Kirt Angle as well need to just go back to that fake bull**** that they where doing before!
Randy couture is going to knock the **** out of Kurt Angle!!!!
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Brock Lesner is a ****ing former TNA or WWE or what ever the hell he was in fighter,(if you would even call him a fighter)the **** he did was fake!!!!
And Kirt Angle as well need to just go back to that fake bull**** that they where doing before!
Randy couture is going to knock the **** out of Kurt Angle!!!!
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Brock Lesner is a ****ing former TNA or WWE or what ever the hell he was in fighter,(if you would even call him a fighter)the **** he did was fake!!!!
And Kirt Angle as well need to just go back to that fake bull**** that they where doing before!
Randy couture is going to knock the **** out of Kurt Angle!!!!
long live Randy Couture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah... pro wrestling is "fake" so that means his shooting star press was fake, too. Don't you get it, guys? I hear it's all done with wires and stuff - it's absolutely impossible for a large man to do a flip off of a higher elevation and land on top of somebody.
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After seeing Lesnar against Mir, I don't see how you can beat him if you haven't got good subs. If you cant catch him in something you are going to get taken down and punished with punches and hammerfists etc.
Although for everyone admiring how good his wrestling is, rumour has it Kurt Angle beat him in a wrestling match backstage while they were both in WWE.
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Brock Lesnar is going to clean up the Heavyweight division in the UFC very quickly, he's only going to get better and won't make the mistake he made with Mir again.
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Yeah... pro wrestling is "fake" so that means his shooting star press was fake, too. Don't you get it, guys? I hear it's all done with wires and stuff - it's absolutely impossible for a large man to do a flip off of a higher elevation and land on top of somebody.
Watch it live one of these days and then say that.
Most of their training, aside from bodybuilding, is essentially gymnastics.
A large man CAN do a flip off a higher elevation and land on someone...if he and the guy he's landing on have been trained to make it look real while avoiding injury.
Gah, just give Brock his props for wrestling ability, cardio, and general athleticism and MOVE ON. Once he gets his BJJ defense down pat, he's going to be force at HW, because NO ONE in that division can outwrestle him.
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Give Brock a year or two of solid fighting and learning and he'll be a machine! I think Coleman's got big problems when he faces Brock...unless he out lasts Brock.
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Give Brock a year or two of solid fighting and learning and he'll be a machine! I think Coleman's got big problems when he faces Brock...unless he out lasts Brock.
I think conditioning is the least of Brock's worries. I don't see poor Mark having much of a chance at all in this one.
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