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Leben Sentenced to 35 days
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Well this sucks!
Hopefully if he doesn't fight(which he probably won't) they will at least replace him and not scrap the fight all together.
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His release is set for May 27, 2008 (he gets credit for time already served), which gives him only 12 days until his scheduled showdown with Michael Bisping at UFC 85: “Bedlam” at the O2 Arena in London, England, on June 7.
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First, This card is CURSED!
And 12 days, unless he can get a workout in the slammer, I don't know if this is gonna work...
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05-08-2008, 06:05 PM
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Leben is a tough SOB so I wouldnt be shocked if he still fights
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05-08-2008, 07:48 PM
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well he will have plenty of time to do numerous push ups
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05-08-2008, 08:34 PM
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Nevermind, apparently Joe Silva will be announcing a replacement shortly.
Hope this fight happens sometime soon, really wanna see it now
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05-08-2008, 08:42 PM
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The judge decided to make an example of him. I'm sure Leben worked out a deal with the DA before turning himself in, but the judge can ignore the deal if he chooses to do so.
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The judge decided to make an example of him. I'm sure Leben worked out a deal with the DA before turning himself in, but the judge can ignore the deal if he chooses to do so.
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Really? Kind of negates the entire purpose of making a deal. Does anyone know the specifics of why Leben is doing jail time though? I know plenty of guys that have gotten DUIs (some multiple) and none of them ever did jail time, just fines, probations and loss of license for awhile.
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05-08-2008, 08:59 PM
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Really? Kind of negates the entire purpose of making a deal. Does anyone know the specifics of why Leben is doing jail time though? I know plenty of guys that have gotten DUIs (some multiple) and none of them ever did jail time, just fines, probations and loss of license for awhile.
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It does negate the purpose of making a deal. That's why judges rarely do it. It's usually reserved for relatively high profile cases that could damage the judge's reputation. The average Joe Schmoe with a DUI goes in for probation violation and makes a deal with the DA, the judge let's it slide. Chris Leben goes in and the judge lays down the law - because someone will be reporting on the outcome. Simple as that.
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05-08-2008, 10:04 PM
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It does negate the purpose of making a deal. That's why judges rarely do it. It's usually reserved for relatively high profile cases that could damage the judge's reputation. The average Joe Schmoe with a DUI goes in for probation violation and makes a deal with the DA, the judge let's it slide. Chris Leben goes in and the judge lays down the law - because someone will be reporting on the outcome. Simple as that.
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Damn who would of thought Leben was high profile hahaha.
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A high profile case is anything that's going to be covered by the media. Chris Leben will get written about.
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05-09-2008, 04:16 AM
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Whilst i respect Leben for trying to sort out his situation, he should have done it a while ago as he knows there is a good chance of fighting outside of America in the UFC these days.
Shame, would have been a great fight.
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05-09-2008, 08:39 AM
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I have nothing but respect for Leben. He is taken care of old mistakes in his life. Thats what being a man is all about. Knowing your mistakes and revisiting them and solving them. Though I really wanted to see him fight.. I'll be looking forward to his return.
besides, most people try to avoid their past mistakes till they die..
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It does negate the purpose of making a deal. That's why judges rarely do it. It's usually reserved for relatively high profile cases that could damage the judge's reputation. The average Joe Schmoe with a DUI goes in for probation violation and makes a deal with the DA, the judge let's it slide. Chris Leben goes in and the judge lays down the law - because someone will be reporting on the outcome. Simple as that.
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Exactly. It is a real slap to the prosecutor's and to the DA's Office. It is rarely done unless there are other circumstances that come in to play such as injuries or damages. Maybe they will give him some type of work furlough or something.
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05-09-2008, 08:59 AM
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I think that sentence is a little too much considering Leben went and took care of it on his own accord, like it was mentioned earlier in this thread, I knew someone who had multiple DUI's and only received a few days in jail. And whether your a "High profile" person or not is supposed to have no bearing on the judgement whatsoever.
So the judge made an example of someone who did the right thing, what kind of message does that send? Don't turn yourself in and don't do the right thing!
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05-09-2008, 09:20 AM
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It just goes to show how broken our Judicial system is. To allow separate and completely different rulings based on the individual preferences of a Judge is ridiculous. There really needs to be a standardization of punishments based on what laws are broken, and make the punishment be the same across the board.
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This does suck. Bisping and Leben aren't top contenders but the match-up was real interesting. One has better technique, one has power and a chin.
I wonder if Leben's old pal, the legend that is Nate Quarry, could be the replacement...
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Really? Kind of negates the entire purpose of making a deal. Does anyone know the specifics of why Leben is doing jail time though? I know plenty of guys that have gotten DUIs (some multiple) and none of them ever did jail time, just fines, probations and loss of license for awhile.
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But this wasn't about the DUI.
He violated the probation (which he got for the DUI) by moving to Hawaii.
He requested a transfer of the probation before going there and (for whatever reason) it was denied. He went anyway -> this mess.
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So the judge made an example of someone who did the right thing, what kind of message does that send? Don't turn yourself in and don't do the right thing!
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I don't know that he did the right thing. The guy only turned himself in because it was the only way to get a visa and fight out of the country. Had he not needed a visa, he surely would not have turned himself in.
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05-09-2008, 12:12 PM
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But this wasn't about the DUI. He violated the probation (which he got for the DUI) by moving to Hawaii. He requested a transfer of the probation before going there and (for whatever reason) it was denied. He went anyway -> this mess.
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Alright that make a little more sense to me if they were getting him a probation violation.
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Haha...poor Chris.
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