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06-02-2008, 10:31 AM
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Thank Heaven for Dana White. I agree Dana White for President 2008. After watching Sat Nite Fights I have a new appreciation for the UFC. Keep up the good work Zuffa !
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06-02-2008, 02:23 PM
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I'm just glad that there will be a WEC card tomorrow night to get this sour taste out of my mouth.
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Dude I was thinking the same thing! haha
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06-02-2008, 03:29 PM
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Dana killed Pride
He curses.
He is bald.
I hate him.
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06-02-2008, 06:26 PM
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Never thought I would see this thread on FF. Now, If George starts singing the praises of Dana, that would be the final sign of the apocolypse.
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06-02-2008, 06:45 PM
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If you like him or not, looking at both shows, EliteXC production, fights, and commentators all seemed amateurish. Even the ringside doctors acted amateurish if that makes any sense. I found the fights decent and did enjoy them. But, the production value and the look of the whole show looked second class compared to a UFC production. For the first time network broadcast would would think they would have put out the best product that anyone has every put out and I do not think we got that.
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06-03-2008, 04:57 PM
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Douche Alert!
Tim Sylvia told White to get ready, "when I win tonight, we're going to break open the bank." Dana White responded with the following:
See, this is the one part of the business I ****ing hate. Everybody wants more money, they want it now. And then all these fighters are like, 'We're the superstars, not the UFC! It should all be about us.' You dumb mother****ers. You don't know what you're ****ing with. I'm a promoter. And a lot of this **** is built with smoke and mirrors. When Lorenzo and I first got into this, we were like two ****ing idiots. 'This is going to be so much fun! We're going to put on big fights! We care about the fighters! We're going to make them millionaires! We'll all be friends! It'll be so great!' But this is the way it goes. And right now this is my ****ing life. I don't know how much longer I can take it, I just don't know. Oh, I still have fun. I'm excited for these guys to come out and fight. I still get goose bumps. And no, I don't regret anything that I've said or done, because everything has gotten me right where I am. I could be parking your car or picking up your bag at the hotel. The thing about me, seriously, I'm high on life man. I love life. And I love what I do.
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06-03-2008, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AikaImmortal
Douche Alert!
Tim Sylvia told White to get ready, "when I win tonight, we're going to break open the bank." Dana White responded with the following:
See, this is the one part of the business I ****ing hate. Everybody wants more money, they want it now. And then all these fighters are like, 'We're the superstars, not the UFC! It should all be about us.' You dumb mother****ers. You don't know what you're ****ing with. I'm a promoter. And a lot of this **** is built with smoke and mirrors. When Lorenzo and I first got into this, we were like two ****ing idiots. 'This is going to be so much fun! We're going to put on big fights! We care about the fighters! We're going to make them millionaires! We'll all be friends! It'll be so great!' But this is the way it goes. And right now this is my ****ing life. I don't know how much longer I can take it, I just don't know. Oh, I still have fun. I'm excited for these guys to come out and fight. I still get goose bumps. And no, I don't regret anything that I've said or done, because everything has gotten me right where I am. I could be parking your car or picking up your bag at the hotel. The thing about me, seriously, I'm high on life man. I love life. And I love what I do.
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I find this honest and truthful. As apposed to fighters who say that fighting is the most important thing to them etc etc then want more THAN THEY SIGNED A CONTRACT FOR. Tim deserves to break the bank, good for him. But as a boss if everyone is coming to you for more $ all the time, hell yeah you will act like this. And this would still happen no matter what you pay these guys. So this isn't a matter of pay really, it is ego and managers, Tim does very well. It is all about this guy is getting this etc. Tito is a slave, Sprewell can't feed his kids, either can tyson, blah blah blah. Try to see it from both sides, once you open that flood gate it is over.
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06-04-2008, 01:47 AM
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this is just getting to sad... its at the point where no matter what this man says or does some of you will always find a way to justify it to yourselves like you owe him something
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06-04-2008, 11:23 AM
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this is just getting to sad... its at the point where no matter what this man says or does some of you will always find a way to justify it to yourselves like you owe him something
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No I just don't go after the guy like he stole my lunch money (Pride). I'd rather have the guy who lost Pride...or M1....or Gary Shaw....on second thought no i wouldn't.
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06-04-2008, 11:38 AM
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Meh, seriously though most people would probably not even be on this forum if it wasn't for Dana White.
I never understood why people hate on him as much as they do. I mean he definitely doesn't come across as a likeable guy, but I think he has made the most contributions to the sport.
-He popularized MMA, and gave you a weekly dose of it.
- There are monthly PPVs and free fight nights which seem to always be increasingly better(Ex:UFN 13).
-I don't think he killed Pride.Pride killed itself by being improperly run.He did decide not to not treat as a seperate entity, but he was only trying to bring you fights such as Chuck/Wandy.
-Fighters salaries on average are still the highest in the UFC, fight bonuses are more then some entire payrolls of other promotions.
-Now that WEC is under his conrtol even it is growing in popularity.
I don't want to come across as a Dana nuthugger, but who has done more for the sport than this guy? I know people say he has worked only in the interest of the UFC, but that's what businesses do. And his product, compared to EliteXC and IFL among others, is undoubtedly best.
If UFC=MMA is what is perceived. I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing, as long as he continues to bring me free fights, quality fights, and fights on a regular basis.
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06-04-2008, 11:43 AM
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I like anyone that's passionate about this sport, and will help further progress it with their presence.
This guy beat down doors', and made people listen when the only way to view it was off blochbuster's shelves'.
Like him, or hate him, he helped make it possible to watch at will, and paved the way for Shaw to bank for a shotty event.
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06-04-2008, 12:49 PM
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Let's get serious about the PRIDE issue for one second. No one is saying that Dana caused their sponsors to pull out or the questionable decisions that marred PRIDE's image. But when the UFC bought PRIDE, Dana personally promised that there would be more PRIDE events and that the UFC would keep the brand alive and well. That is to what people refer when they say that he killed PRIDE.
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06-04-2008, 01:54 PM
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Let's get serious about the PRIDE issue for one second. No one is saying that Dana caused their sponsors to pull out or the questionable decisions that marred PRIDE's image. But when the UFC bought PRIDE, Dana personally promised that there would be more PRIDE events and that the UFC would keep the brand alive and well. That is to what people refer when they say that he killed PRIDE.
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I understand why they say it. But they have NO idea what shape the company was in, how hard it was to get a TV deal wit the stigma of the Pride name, how hard a foriegn owned company is to run in Japan, etc. Nobody on these boards calls him a bad businessman, so if you take that into consideration, he didn't buy a film library for the cost of what he bought pride for (cause that was all he really got). Did they under estimate what it would have taken? Probably. Were they sold a bill of goods for something that was much worse than it looked? Maybe. Did the previous owners of Pride FAIL completely then sell to forgien ownership who were direct competitors? YES. So who really ruined pride? Most on this board tend to ignore who really lost them their prized perfect MMA company.
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06-07-2008, 09:46 PM
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If you would have made this thread about a year ago i would be with it,but not today.
In me eyes White has shown favortism to certain fighters and that's unprofessional. He seems to have gotten himself a "good old boy" network on the quiet ,that is not hard to detect. I think the fact that a lot of good fighters hate this guy's guts is evident of that ,especially the classy Randy Couture.
I guess he's tapping in to the worst part of societies ill's ,and reading some of the garbage on this site only supports that. Why isn't Spider Silva being given he credit he deserves as being one of the most devastating fighters to ever walk into the octagon,because he's not American i heard someone say ,but that argument doesn't hold any water and here's why. Rampage is the second best fighter in the UFC right now and he is not touted or given the amount of exposure Liddell got. So i'm going to tell it lie it is and say it's because they are not White excuse the pun. If we are all a bit more honest about this it we would all be better off.
I can't remember in the entire history of the UFC a fighter beat as many fighters of the quality of those that silva beat ,so easily. To do so in todays game with so much money and opportunities on the line it's actually quite incredible. The level of the opposition in todays game is incredibly high and is why a loss is not deemed as much as a big deal. The UFC or say Dana White do not know what they got in that fighter. My guess is the reason he's not fighting more is because it will only grow on the public that this guy is special and the UFC just don't have another white knight to carry the torch for liddell.
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06-07-2008, 10:27 PM
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Without Dana White? Ther'd be no Gary Shaw in teh MMA World.
End of thread
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06-08-2008, 08:28 AM
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Look at my signature, LOL.
That's the end of the thread, MTKrav, LOL. 
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06-08-2008, 01:10 PM
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Sub, you have the WEC as a victim? They have been putting on absolutely awesome events!
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06-10-2008, 09:03 AM
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Sub, you have the WEC as a victim? They have been putting on absolutely awesome events!
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Not really as a victim. PRIDE FC and the WEC have both been bought out by the UFC. The WEC promotion runs well and provides a good product, so the UFC/WEC relationship works. PRIDE Fighting was initially intended to remain a viable MMA promotion, but I think that the issues surrounding a US company promoting MMA in Japan made PRIDE FC a failed promotion under the UFC.
It's not so bad for the UFC as the former PRIDE fighters have made the UFC so much more, and much better, than it was without them. I think that the UFC wants the WEC to specialize in the lower weight classes (the 145, 155, and 170 divisions). I would not be surprised to see the UFC merge it's 155 and 170 weight classes with the WEC's equals in the WEC. That would mean merging the 185 and 205 weight classes with the UFC in the UFC. The WEC does not have a heavyweight class.
Anyway, nothing has been said or done on this point, but it seems logical. Otherwise there will always be some question. Who is the best LHW? Brian Stann or Rampage Jackson? Who is the best WW? Carlos Condit or GSP?
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