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Old 06-28-2008, 07:04 AM   #21
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Agree SmashingMachine.

I think Bisping is a world ahead of Leben(although Leben has a puncher's chance), i expect this fight to be finished in the first.

Then he'll have to fight the top tier in the Middleweight division in his next fight.
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Old 06-28-2008, 07:42 AM   #22
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If the UFC think, putting Bisping on the card will ensure they sell out in the UK everytime, they have another thing coming. I got burnt bad in the last card by buying tickets to see Chuck and Shogun, and when they got injured the UFC refused to refund my tickets! Probably because the sales were so poor. And yeah they put Hughes on the card to give the card some star power, but in the arena, there was a huge push as Bisping being the "real" main event. The British public aint thick, and yeah we love our MMA and when the UFC comes to town we lap it up. But they cant keep trying to pull the wool over our eyes by trying to 'Main Event" Bisping against guys he is supposed to beat.People will get sick of that very fast. A lot of people I talked to at 85 (A good few in same position as me, couldnt get tickets refunded)were totally PO'ed with the situation with Bisping. The UFC give us sub par cards (with exception of Hendo-Rampage), but try and spice it up by including him!
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Agree SmashingMachine.

I think Bisping is a world ahead of Leben(although Leben has a puncher's chance), i expect this fight to be finished in the first.

Then he'll have to fight the top tier in the Middleweight division in his next fight.
I dont get where all of a sudden Bisping is miles ahead of Leben; this is a fight he could very well lose and get knocked unconcious at the same time. I agree Bisping is a more diverse striker w/ the kicks and such but I give Leben the edge everywhere else. In the least this will be a good fight b/c niether 1 is miles ahead of the other.....
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When is Bisping going to fight in the States?

Everytime he's on a card is when the UFC is in UK.
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When is Bisping going to fight in the States?

Everytime he's on a card is when the UFC is in UK.
he's fought in the states before
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:59 PM   #26
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When is Bisping going to fight in the States?

Everytime he's on a card is when the UFC is in UK.
They need him to sell tickets for events with weak headliners overseas.
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yeah all main events MUST be championship fights, get over it people, this is gonna be a great fight and i'm sure the rest of the card will be solid as well, i hate how everyone on here judges a card based purely on if it has big names or not, some of the best fights i've seen in the ufc have been with completely unknown people
Everyone has been saying they think this fight will be good but the entire point of the main event is that it's supposed to be the biggest names and the best fighters. Bisping and Leben are not that. I've looked forward to many main events that weren't title fights, but those contained fighters on the same level as champions, these guys aren't.
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I'm looking forward to this fight. I say in Leben by TKO.
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I dont get where all of a sudden Bisping is miles ahead of Leben; this is a fight he could very well lose and get knocked unconcious at the same time. I agree Bisping is a more diverse striker w/ the kicks and such but I give Leben the edge everywhere else. In the least this will be a good fight b/c niether 1 is miles ahead of the other.....
I never said it was sudden...I think it's always Been. Bisping has potential to be a serious MW threat...Leben's never going to be. I think Count, ends this one early.
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I am just curious what Bisping is going to do when a big slugger like Leben cracks him one. Bisping is more athletic and has a more diverse striking game then Leben does but I am just curious how Bisping will react after Leben lands one of his haymakers.
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I am just curious what Bisping is going to do when a big slugger like Leben cracks him one. Bisping is more athletic and has a more diverse striking game then Leben does but I am just curious how Bisping will react after Leben lands one of his haymakers.
I don't think it'll be anything he hasn't already run across. It's not like Leben is Chuck Liddell. He's a banger, not a world class striker...big difference. Like on National Geo channel when they did that Fight Science episode. Tito had a hard hit with an elbow, and Bas' hook nearly tripled the damage of Tito's Elbow shot. Tito's stand-up would be a banger's as compared to Bas' being world class striker...big difference. Plus, let's not forget...Bisping was the LHW and is the bigger man. I just don't think it's going to be much of a shock for Bisping. He'll steam roll Leben.
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I don't think it'll be anything he hasn't already run across. It's not like Leben is Chuck Liddell. He's a banger, not a world class striker...big difference. Like on National Geo channel when they did that Fight Science episode. Tito had a hard hit with an elbow, and Bas' hook nearly tripled the damage of Tito's Elbow shot. Tito's stand-up would be a banger's as compared to Bas' being world class striker...big difference. Plus, let's not forget...Bisping was the LHW and is the bigger man. I just don't think it's going to be much of a shock for Bisping. He'll steam roll Leben.
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smash I think your giving Bisping way too much credit. Has he fought a legit striking threat yet? I dont think so. I think Bispings striking just looks a lot better than Lebans. Im not sure Bisping is any better on the ground than Leban either. IF Bisping was an elite level striker I think he would win the fight but I just think Lebans chin will hold up long enough for him to get the win. Then again maybe Ill finally get to see this awesome Bisping people are always talking about. Who knows?? Leban TKO 2rd
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I just can't see which department Leben is stronger in than Bisping.

Bisping finally gets to fight a stand up fighter so he can't complain if he fails to win the fight. I personally believe that at the end of the fight a lot of people on here will be eating humble pie(possibly myself ;-)).

Think it will be an exciting fight.
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Won't be no humble pie here...personally...I could care less about this fight, but from what I've seen of these two Bisping should dismantle Leben.
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Won't be no humble pie here...personally...I could care less about this fight, but from what I've seen of these two Bisping should dismantle Leben.
You've been making some very strong statements. You've seen Leben's last two fights, right? He's become a much more intelligent fighter, and while you can say Bisping is a more technical striker, I think Leben has heavier hands and a better chin, both of which are very important if you're planning on standing and trading. I also think Leben's ground game is better than Bisping's, and if you look at Leben's record, the only person to ever finish him via strikes was Anderson Silva. You think Bisping's stand up is on that level?

Basically, the only way Bisping wins this fight is by decision, and frankly, I don't think Bisping will be willing to out-point Leben in front of a bunch of Brits. I think he tries to swarm Leben, eats a hook and takes a nap. Bisping has never had a strong test of his chin, nor has he won against anyone who would be considered top-tier competition.

My money's on Leben.
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I don't think it'll be anything he hasn't already run across. It's not like Leben is Chuck Liddell. He's a banger, not a world class striker...big difference. Like on National Geo channel when they did that Fight Science episode. Tito had a hard hit with an elbow, and Bas' hook nearly tripled the damage of Tito's Elbow shot. Tito's stand-up would be a banger's as compared to Bas' being world class striker...big difference. Plus, let's not forget...Bisping was the LHW and is the bigger man. I just don't think it's going to be much of a shock for Bisping. He'll steam roll Leben.
No one has connected flush against Bisping yet and Bisping has not fought someone who throws haymakers either. I am not saying Bisping will lose or win but Leben will connect a haymaker on him some time during the fight. How will Bisping deal with getting rocked. I mean the last person to rock Bisping was the non striker Hammil and he didn't even land flush.
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Bisping by TKO in the 1st or 2nd round. Bisping will hit him with a good punch or knee and rock Leben then go in for the TKO.
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