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06-29-2008, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashingMachine
Oh, I agree with you that any of them would lose to Rich or Hendo. But, I still disagree with everyone because I don't believe Leben's in the same league as Bisping.
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It's hard to say what Bisping will do against Franklin or Henderson. I'm not willing to write Bisping off at 185lbs.
But this I'm pretty sure of: At 185lbs, Bisping is a heck of a lot better than Leben.
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06-29-2008, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Eindar
You've been making some very strong statements. You've seen Leben's last two fights, right? He's become a much more intelligent fighter, and while you can say Bisping is a more technical striker, I think Leben has heavier hands and a better chin, both of which are very important if you're planning on standing and trading. I also think Leben's ground game is better than Bisping's, and if you look at Leben's record, the only person to ever finish him via strikes was Anderson Silva. You think Bisping's stand up is on that level?
Basically, the only way Bisping wins this fight is by decision, and frankly, I don't think Bisping will be willing to out-point Leben in front of a bunch of Brits. I think he tries to swarm Leben, eats a hook and takes a nap. Bisping has never had a strong test of his chin, nor has he won against anyone who would be considered top-tier competition.
My money's on Leben.
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Yes, I have, and maybe I'll have to eat those comments, but I just don't think it's going happen. Honestly I think it'd be kind of funny if Leben did go out and knock his block off...kind of like a pleasant surprise...and that's exactly what it'd be a Surprise. I just think Bisping's got way better game than Leben...he's a bigger man coming to a smaller man's class...don't think there'll be any problems here; especially in front of Jolly Ol' Englund. Leben's won his last two fights, yes...against Alessio Sakara and Terry Martin...not exactly world beaters there...so, he should've looked good against them.
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06-30-2008, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashingMachine
Yes, I have, and maybe I'll have to eat those comments, but I just don't think it's going happen. Honestly I think it'd be kind of funny if Leben did go out and knock his block off...kind of like a pleasant surprise...and that's exactly what it'd be a Surprise. I just think Bisping's got way better game than Leben...he's a bigger man coming to a smaller man's class...don't think there'll be any problems here; especially in front of Jolly Ol' Englund. Leben's won his last two fights, yes...against Alessio Sakara and Terry Martin...not exactly world beaters there...so, he should've looked good against them.
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May be worth mentioning that those 2 came down from LHW as well so maybe the "bigger man" thing is not that big of a deal concerning Leben.....
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06-30-2008, 12:40 PM
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Also, Terry Martin was on a way to a title shot when he fought Leben. He was a roll of wins.
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06-30-2008, 01:17 PM
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Hopefully they add a title fight of some sort to this card to make it a little bit mroe enticing, Silva vs Okami perhaps...
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06-30-2008, 01:28 PM
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Unless another fix is in Leben will hammer Bisping down..... And finish him.....
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07-01-2008, 04:02 PM
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Just hope Serra v Hughes is added to the card.
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07-01-2008, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by stillstanding
Also, Terry Martin was on a way to a title shot when he fought Leben. He was a roll of wins.
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And Leben was losing that fight until he caught him late in that round. And again, the only reason he was even close to a title shot is because of the depth of the MW division...
Anyways, I think alot of people are just counting Bisping out because of his win over Hammil, the hate from that fight is still very apparent.
I think Bisping comes out hard, rocks Leben a couple times, hurts his confidence, takes him down tires him out, and then back pedals with jabs and keeps leben away.... wins a well deserved decision.
I am definately looking forward to see who the Odds favor .... Who do you think will have the betting odds in their favor?
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07-01-2008, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FightFan76
May be worth mentioning that those 2 came down from LHW as well so maybe the "bigger man" thing is not that big of a deal concerning Leben.....
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if they were even middle of the road fighters...perhaps...but not these two.
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07-15-2008, 03:38 PM
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I can see Bispings quick knees finishing this early in the second. He's damn quick and relentless. Leben will only win this fight if he can catch Bisping with a lucky punch whilst back pedalling.
Maybe the fact that no one has caught Bisping flush with a punch upto yet is a credit to him, rather than his opponents being poor strikers.
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07-15-2008, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by marnold
I'm looking forward to this fight. I say in Leben by TKO.
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Wow, that's some prediction. 
Leben definitely has power, but I don't know if he has enough to stop Bisping by KO/TKO. Leben is getting smarter in the ring, and I'm sure he knows all about Bisping's ability by know. I'd put money on this going to decision in favor of Leben.
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07-15-2008, 03:56 PM
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Two of my favourite fighters going head to head here, don't even want to hazard a guess but it should be good.
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07-15-2008, 06:25 PM
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Leben will KO Bisping in the hmm...2nd round.
Wish I could be there in person to see it, as it's only 20 mins from me, but I'm too poor. Lame.
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07-15-2008, 06:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kermit
Leben will KO Bisping in the hmm...2nd round.
Wish I could be there in person to see it, as it's only 20 mins from me, but I'm too poor. Lame.
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