FightFan76

Actually in the past when Rich has fought at LHW he has feeled out that weight pretty good. Rich is a very big MW and a decent sized LHW IMO.....

Scarecrow

He walks around in the off season at around 225-230, so he'll come in right at 205. He will just look a lot larger and less gaunt than he normally does during his 185 fights.

basslogic4003

In any case, he probably won't have to be sucking down that recovery shake immediately after he weighs in like he does at MW.

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As far as Hammil's chin goes, it is solid but i do remember Seth Petruzelli dropping him with a clean shot when they fought. If Seth were more aggressive at that point he probably could have finished the fight. But that was a long time ago and Matt has improved alot. Enough to beat Rich? I doubt it. Rich packs a serious punch at 185, so I like to see how that translates into a step up in wieght. How much stronger will he be with twenty more pounds on him? Might be enough to make Hammil's strength a non-issue.

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This fight isn't going to be as easy as everyone thinks it is for the Ace! If Lutter was able to get him down to the ground, Hamill shouldn't have a problem. He could very well over power Rich through out the entire fight and take the decision victory. The only thing is will he be able to do all this without getting KO'ed? If so Hamill has a legitimate shot at winning.

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Mulla

I actually think Hamill has a good chance to pull this off. He has some real heavy hands, and if he works his cardio I could see him pulling off a TKO from gnp late in the fight or winning a decision.

Definately looking forward to this!

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If this fight happens to be close, this is where I think Hamill will lose out, towards the end of the fight. Ace's conditioning is phenominal...Hamill was pretty winded against Boestch...of course...the altitude may have done something to do with it.

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Mulla

Yep, he also considerably slowed after the first round of the Bisping fight.

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It will be interesting to see how Rich's cardio is in this fight. While he may not have to cut weight he does have to carry 20+ pounds of muscle that he is'nt used to fighting with. It may or may not have an effect on his performance. Rich does have some experience at 205 but he's fighting a guy who is going to be naturally stronger and more physical. I give Rich the advantage skill wise, but he's going to have to overcome a bigger opponent.

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Ryduce

When was the last time Rich fought a big powerful wrestler?

Answer:Never.

Lutter didn't exactly have trouble taking Rich down early. Not only is Hammil a superior wrestler, but he is bigger, tougher, and he won't gas.

Bad fight for Franklin at 205.

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GSPALLTHEWAY

the fight is at 205???

all i remember about hamil is he has no chin and couldnt do much once he takes you down... not sure hes a big threat at 185 or 205

Gooner

Yes, it's at 205.
But why do you think Hamill has "no chin"?

I have a feeling his chin is much better than Franklin's.
Franklin's punching power won't give Hamill any problems either.
Personally I think he'd be able to manhandle Franklin just like he manhandled Bisping. But he'll probably go for GnP.

Btw he also stopped Tim Boetsch on the ground in his last fight.
Rich is in trouble.

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Ryduce

I used to think Hamil didn't have a good chin either.

But he ate huge knees,uppercuts, and kicks from Boetsch, and he kept coming. I'd say his chin is much more solid than Franklin's. I can't imagine him being dropped by Loiseau.

Franklin's power will be negated by the fact he's fighting a guy who is used to fighting guys who weigh in 25 lbs heavier.

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SmashingMachine

Hammil looked pretty winded against Boestch, to me. I wouldn't bet on Hammil not gassing; especially against a cardio freak like Franklin. You know, the more I think about this fight, the more I think it could be a real challenge for Rich. Just because we haven't seen him against a really good wrestler. However, I think Hamill's bad habit, of dropping his hands, is going to make him pay. Lutter, did get Rich down, but even Rich said he got complacent and it caused him to go down. Of course, he coulda just been saying that too, but personally I think Rich knows that Hamill's only chance is to get him down and I think Rich will be ready for it.

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Harms

I'm going to enjoy rereading this thread after the fight. Hamil may be the superior,but he couldn,t even keep Bisping down. This will be a beatdown by Franklin ala Louseiu or Tanner. I almost agree with the person who said it will be like the Quarry fight. I've never seen Hamill do one thing that makes me think he can win, much less be in the same league as Franklin.

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FatCat

Of course Hamill got a bit tired vs. Boestch, he's a big strong wrestler just like Hamill. Rich was pretty gassed in his fight vs. Lutter and Lutter isn't as big or strong, or of the same wrestling pedigree as Hamill. Rich knew the same thing (Lutter's only chance to win was getting Rich down) in the Lutter fight but that didn't stop him from getting mounted and nearly submitted.

Heh, you put too much faith in what people tell you and not enough in what you actually see. Of course Rich is going to say he got complacent, he was dominated in the wrestling department against a supposed lesser fighter. Rich isn't going to say infront of hundreds of thousands that wresling is a weak point of his and is an easy wasy to take him out. But it seems like that just might be the case.

I like Hamill in this fight doing the same things he did to Bisping, only this time coming out with the victory.

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fullonshred

Did you even see that fight? Matt was obviously letting Bisping back up. And later he confirmed that he was doing so because of a serious knee injury. He will definitely be able to take Rich down, and his strength is going to be too much for Rich to handle. I hate it, but I think Franklin loses this fight.

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SmashingMachine

Did you watch the same fight I did Franklin/Lutter, because Lutter gassed not Rich...he was fine...they all breathe a little heavy...it's called fighting...ever done it? Further, I already stated that that could just be Rich saying that...so what's your point?

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FightFan76

This is what I wanted to say; just too tired to post it.....

FatCat

My point is, Hamill is gonna whoop that ass.

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