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If that happened, I'm guessing that title fights would occur even less frequently...TUF stalling + additional rounds = more rest.

I like dana whites idea, making non title fights 5 rounds & title fights 7 then this way whoever runs out of stamina is going to lose to a sub or knock out & rarely would you see a 7 round descion.

I'm rewatching this fight right now and I'm gonna tell you exactly how I'm seeing it.

Round 1 : Forrest (That Knock Down was impressive but happened to late and did not make up for the painful Leg kicks via Forrest)

Round 2 : Forrest (Leg kicks + Knees to the head takes Forrest on top of Page and spends 4 minutes looking for subs and pounding. This round is clearly for Forrest just like R1)

Round 3 : Forrest (Forrest is very aggressive and never stops hunting down Page, he never stops landing kicks and even though page landed two good combinations through out the fight Forrest ends the round with his own)

Round 4 : Rampage (Someone I guess told him to become aggressive - Even with Page's punching combos Forrest is aggressive the last 3 minutes following Page down around the ring. The ONLY reason I give this to Page and not Forrest is landing of some punches - Forrest still out maneuvered page and page did nothing on the ground - This is the round Page cut Forrest. In my Opinion this is to late to effect the fights out come)

Round 5 : Forrest (he was aggressive all the time landing kicks they both moved around a lot that round both tired I'm sure)

Now lets be honest here The only reason you give Rampage the first round is that knock down. The other 90% of the fight Forrest was working him over.
Round 1-2 Clearly Forrest - Round 3 Forrest is tracking Page down never lets up, Page lands good combos but little late in my opinion to effect the round and that rounds ends with Forrest landing one of his own.
4 would go to Page for his aggressiveness and taken Forrest down - but still he did nothing on the ground and though he did cut him. Round 5 both are tired but STILL Forrest is following Page and landing kicks and tossing out punches.

This is a great fight, worthy of a championship title but Forrest did win this fight and he most certainly deserves the title for that level of performance.

I don't think thats so fair. Only because I think in boxing a knockdown is more significant then in MMA. Some MMA fighters have hard chins, so I think in MMA if you do get knocked down, as the fighter will normally follow it up and take the fight to the ground, if the fighter who got knocked down can recover quickly and give the fighter trouble from the bottom, that should be acknowledged, which could be argued what happened in the first round of this fight.

In boxing, a knockdown is a knockdown and the fight is temporarily stopped for recovery, in MMA we don't have this, as it isn't just about the striking.

I can see your point, but I think that is better use for boxing and not for a sport which includes everything, as being knocked down doesn't necessarily mean you are in total danger if you weren't too phased by the punch and are able to recover quickly.

That's fair. I don't really believe there's corruption and overall trust athletic commissions.

It's still a new sport and I'm sure the judges are still having difficulty scoring fights where there are so many different aspects of fighting in it to score, unlike boxing.

But if we are to gain some sanity in scoring? MMA needs to adopt strict scoring rules. In boxing, regardless if the guy was winning the round? If the other guy knocks you down? It's an automatic 10-8 round for the fighter that dropped you.

To me that's more fair. Because it gives the scoring to damage rather than points.

And imo, that's what fighting sport is about. The measuring of damage and accumulated damage.

If you put all of MMA on a "Points" system, then it becomes like TKD, Wrestling, Judo, etc.

There has to be a measure of ambiguity in MMA.

The old saying in boxing too. The fighter at the end of the fight with the messed up face and who was backing up most of the fight, loses.

That too should be factored in. Again an assessment of overall damage.

"You don't win fights with that tip tap ****!" - Dennis Alexio (Kickboxer) - 1989

I don't think either round one or two should have been 10-8 rounds, but two judges giving Forrest RD 1 is insanity. Absolute insanity.
Corruption? Doubtful. Unbelieve incompetence/confusion about MMA, possibly.

I don't see how Griffins round 2 could be 10-8 when all he did was secure a takedown and lay on top of Rampage causing no damage, vs Rampage only getting a 10-9 round in round 1 after dropping Forrest.

Some corruption?

I dunno.

I don't see how Griffins round 2 could be 10-8 when all he did was secure a takedown and lay on top of Rampage causing no damage, vs Rampage only getting a 10-9 round in round 1 after dropping Forrest.

Some corruption?

I dunno.

Well everyone knows Randy Couture is Griffins trainer and what he said about the 1st round is "I thought they may have been able to give Quinton a 10-8 round in the first round with the knockdown". I think that just proves the judging was completely messed, if Randy says it could of been a 10-8 then at the very least it is a 10-9 round for Rampage.

As for the judging how about a 10 point must system with .5 points also being given. So say a round is VERY close instead of 10-9 it is 10-9.5 . Or say in round two alot of people think it was a 10-8 round, others just a 10-9, how about a 10-8.5 . Randy Couture explained this in detail on the Fight Network a little while ago with Big John Mcarthy, sounded great.

But don't you agree that the judges aren't competent enough in their MMA knowledge to accurately judge a fight.

And again. I'm sure every fighter that steps into that cage is trying to finish the fight before it goes to the judges.

It's like telling Brett Farve he shouldn't through interceptions. He knows this, he tries not to, but it still happens...

Yes, it is easy. Its also easy to say that judges are morons and the ten point must system is garbage. But i don't see anyone really making a real push to shake things up. Until then fighters, if they actually worry about decisions, need to keep in mind that judges are often uneducated about the sport. That leaving doubt in the minds of a judge for even one round can turn a win into a loss.

Rampage did nothing? so Rocking Forest twice is nothing, slamming him is nothing, punch after punch is nothing, knocking him on the ground(from a punch) and controling him from guard is nothing...
WATCH THE FIGHT AGAIN LOL

Show a little more respect in your rebuttals.. this isn't sherdog.

Rampage did nothing? so Rocking Forest twice is nothing, slamming him is nothing, punch after punch is nothing, knocking him on the ground(from a punch) and controling him from guard is nothing...
WATCH THE FIGHT AGAIN LOL