Huerta not happy with the UFC - Page 4 - Fight Forum - MMA - UFC - Boxing - K1

Young_Neil · 07-31-2008, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjamonkey

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Alvarez
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JZ Cavalcante
Josh Thomson
Melendez
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asronn · 07-31-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ventre

Why you attacking me mang?

Look at it in the way of other sports, all sports started off with low pay but once the popularity grew & the stadiums started filling up thats when the athletes got paid which btw we see what happens when they start getting paid 20 mill

You have to have the fans in the ppv & at the events in order to pay the money these fighters want & to stay afloat & right now when 13k people is considered good for a sale out then you have two choices
1. raise the prices of ppv & door tickets or 2. pay the fighters what they want and fold up the business in a year.

Yes ufc is making alot of money but it also has to be considered how much money they are spending also to support the business.

I think once the fights are pulling in at least 20-25k in door tickets alone you will see a increase of pay to the fighters.

Yes dana has billionares to back him but if they have to drop money into the ufc & the ufc cannot stay afloat by itself then whats the point of keeping it open?

Hell I got no mma skills but I'll train some go in and fight 3 times a week for 20k a match cause I am not greedy LOL thats plenty of money to live off for me I don't need fancy crap lol.

I do feel for the fighters but they are the foundation of the company & what it will become just takes time.

Affliction couldn't pay what they paid w/o trump & they won't be able to in the future as well if they dont get more fans at the events & ppv's and the owner of affliction said it himself.

MMA is still a baby sport thats all it is.
It doesn't come close to the ratings as other sports I mean hell the fake wrestling is watched more on monday nights then most any other show.

Im not attacking you bro. I just think you are one of the UFCs biggest defenders here on FF. Thats all mang

riversideblues · 07-31-2008, 11:54 PM

Huerta is a wrestler/striker who has been spoon fed BJJ guys with little to know hands, even Garcia who's almost never trained standup was doing really well until he gassed from coming short notice.

Huerta is just hands down overrated, he's a draw for the hispanic fans the UFC is after, he shouldn't act bigger than he actually is, it's how contracts work, if he doesn't like what they give him when this one is up then go somewhere else.

I will give it to him though, 50 is nothing for doing anything for more than a hour if you're a professional athlete, even the exposure he got isn't really worth the time.

Pitbull · 08-01-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by codyfromstorm

You think it's a dumb move? The worst that can happen is they don't resign him, then there's many places he can go, and become the champion very quickly, and getting paid 3x the amount UFC gives him.

But who would really want to pay Roger Huerta 3x what the UFC does? I don't feel that he's a big PPV draw, and he's certainly not a marquee name outside the UFC.

And if some other organization did sign him, why would they pay him 3x what he's earning now to beat a bunch of nobodies.

I feel Roger Huerta stood a better chance of making more money with the UFC had he just kept his mouth shut. Now he's probably angered the UFC brass, runs the risk of not getting re-signed, and he'll probably end up fighting on some indian reservation for even less cash.

OneBigThrow · 08-01-2008, 12:41 AM

contract signing is irrelevant with respect to ****ty per diem

PrettyBoy · 08-01-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitbull

But who would really want to pay Roger Huerta 3x what the UFC does? I don't feel that he's a big PPV draw, and he's certainly not a marquee name outside the UFC.

And if some other organization did sign him, why would they pay him 3x what he's earning now to beat a bunch of nobodies.

I feel Roger Huerta stood a better chance of making more money with the UFC had he just kept his mouth shut. Now he's probably angered the UFC brass, runs the risk of not getting re-signed, and he'll probably end up fighting on some indian reservation for even less cash.

I disagree, I think there would be a few places he could fight and be champion. Once champion they would hype him up big time, remember he might move to WW in the near future, and I don't know about you guys but i'd love to see him fight Nick Diaz or Robbie Lawler, and although he wouldnt make more money there, he probley wouldn't make any less.

So it's a gamble.

T-Bone · 08-01-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by codyfromstorm

I don't know about you guys but i'd love to see him fight Nick Diaz or Robbie Lawler, and although he wouldnt make more money there, he probley wouldn't make any less.

That would be a big step up in competition, that's for sure. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing Huerta get schooled by Diaz or Lawler.

GSPALLTHEWAY · 08-01-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by T-Bone

That would be a big step up in competition, that's for sure. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing Huerta get schooled by Diaz or Lawler.

why would he fight lawler?? is there an open weight tourney i dont know about???

and going to elite is a big big drop in competition level.... beyond diaz, koons (i guess) not really much out there for him at all...

statikman · 08-01-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by T-Bone

That would be a big step up in competition, that's for sure. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing Huerta get schooled by Diaz or Lawler.

It would also be a step up in weight.

T-Bone · 08-01-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by statikman

It would also be a step up in weight.

No doubt. I was just commenting on cody's post.

Huerta did say he wants to fight at 170 at some point but Robbie's at 185 so that seems less likely to happen than a Diaz matchup.

Pitbull · 08-01-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by codyfromstorm

I disagree, I think there would be a few places he could fight and be champion. Once champion they would hype him up big time, remember he might move to WW in the near future, and I don't know about you guys but i'd love to see him fight Nick Diaz or Robbie Lawler, and although he wouldnt make more money there, he probley wouldn't make any less.

So it's a gamble.

Well we can agree to disagree, man.

But Huerta would have an even harder time at 170. He just doesn't have the skills.

Obviously doing free PR work is crappy, but this also has a lot to do with Roger believing his own hype. He believes he is worth much more than his current pay, when he's really not.

I believe Kenny has his number, and hopefully the loss brings him back down to earth.

Ventre · 08-01-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by asronn

Im not attacking you bro. I just think you are one of the UFCs biggest defenders here on FF. Thats all mang

Naw I defend what I think is right or wrong.
You don't seeing me defending dana on the firing of jt & I don't even like jt.

Business is business & props should always go to those that did the buisness right.

Will ufc dominate forever? I hope not because with competetition comes better cost on ppv & ticket sales for me.

One day I would love to go to a live event but who knows.

Do I agree dana white has a ****ty attitude at times.... hell yeah but thats what I enjoy about him, I hate coorporate stuck up assholes.

I still use common sense though mang, affliction is already having issues like me & alot of others stated they would have because its not hard to see whats going to happen when companys make certain choices.

Hopefully they recover and continue to grow.

PrettyBoy · 08-01-2008, 08:54 PM

Ok I got a question. In this article not one of Huerta's quotes i talking about more money, but the person who wrote it is saying Huerta wants more money, so is it possible the person who wrote the article twisted his words around??

PrettyBoy · 08-01-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GSPALLTHEWAY

why would he fight lawler?? is there an open weight tourney i dont know about???

and going to elite is a big big drop in competition level.... beyond diaz, koons (i guess) not really much out there for him at all...

Yeh I thought Lawler was the same weight as Hughes, my bad not to sure why I thought that.

asronn · 08-01-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by codyfromstorm

Yeh I thought Lawler was the same weight as Hughes, my bad not to sure why I thought that.

thats because he fought at 170 when he was in the UFC

PrettyBoy · 08-01-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by asronn

thats because he fought at 170 when he was in the UFC

And that would be why I thught that lol, thanks I knew there must have been some reason.

Dirty Fighter · 08-01-2008, 09:14 PM

Yeah, kinda funny that EliteXC's MW champ got knocked out by one of their few LW contenders.

SmashingMachine · 08-02-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ventre

You guys must not read what I type lol. I have said it before & here I will say it again, I see more ufc because ufc is promoted more but again I watch whatever mma I can and I love it all but I work 12 hour shifts & I havent yet figured out which shows are on when.

Yes I love the ufc & yes I defend it when it needs to be defended but I also state those things which I think to be bull****.

So far the only ones putting me in the catagory of ufc hugger are the ones that are mostly anti ufc.

Last time, I got started with ufc & have found more shows since then I like mma not just ufc.

LOL...Don't you recognize sir when someone was making a funny as a tension breaker?

Ventre · 08-02-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashingMachine

LOL...Don't you recognize sir when someone was making a funny as a tension breaker?

DOH! isnt there some rule about using someone elses crap against them?

lol

SmashingMachine · 08-02-2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ventre

DOH! isnt there some rule about using someone elses crap against them?

lol

LOL...sorry bro...had to have a little fun with you.