JT Money released (again)

Jasp · 08-01-2008, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Scarecrow

Although I'm not surprised that he was dropped, I always thought it would be for something different. Considering that Rampage threw his own personal opinion into JT's personal issues on national television, I think that JT's comments were actually justified.

Lets compare what happened between the two. Rampage and JT both opened their mouths and said something they shouldn't have. Rampage to the entire US via television, and JT to a much smaller audience that probably hasn't gone past some internet forums.

And then we have destruction of private property and disruption of the peace. JT kicks out a limo window (big woop-t-doo) and terrorizes some old fogies playing slot poker. Max damage maybe around 2 grand. Rampage takes a 3-ton monster truck on a joyride through the city smashing into everything in his path with a trail of cops tailing a mile behind him. Damage was probably 100k or more.

Now, I might not be the best person at comparing simple issues like this, but I would be willing to bet that Rampage gets red carpet treatment as soon as he comes back to the cage. Tell me, who really got screwed here?

Amen to that.

SWIBC · 08-01-2008, 12:31 PM

Taylor had his point made by the release. He said watch the double standard and sure enough Dana proved his point by not doing anything with Rampage and releasing Taylor.
No different than any sport unfortunately. Star players can do no wrong but if a reserve does something of similar or less nature they will get popped hard.

GSPALLTHEWAY · 08-01-2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SWIBC

Taylor had his point made by the release. He said watch the double standard and sure enough Dana proved his point by not doing anything with Rampage and releasing Taylor.
No different than any sport unfortunately. Star players can do no wrong but if a reserve does something of similar or less nature they will get popped hard.

all true... although who cares if he made his point... he is gone and no one will remember him 2 weeks from now... as for rampages comments, he can get away with ALOT more being a star.... the new up and comers have to have perfect behavior to even have a chance to get in the spotlight... just like it is in all other industries...

OneBigThrow · 08-01-2008, 12:42 PM

so people arent allowed to speak as adults in the UFC?

rampage said some ****, JT touched on some **** back

and JT gets released from his contract?

GSPALLTHEWAY · 08-01-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OneBigThrow

so people arent allowed to speak as adults in the UFC?

rampage said some ****, JT touched on some **** back

and JT gets released from his contract?

yes... they are EMPLOYEES!!

so no they cannot say whatever they want...

rampage gets far more slack because of what he brings in... JT brings nothing, and he is gone.... like in any other business... pretty simple...

OneBigThrow · 08-01-2008, 12:48 PM

nah im pretty sure as employees you are allowed to air grievances on personal matters

or do you not have a job?

GSPALLTHEWAY · 08-01-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OneBigThrow

nah im pretty sure as employees you are allowed to air grievances on personal matters

or do you not have a job?

if i was a brand new employee in any industry and starting complaining and talking about major employees i would be fired...

and yes i do... better than yours.... any other smart comments? at least you didnt swear in that post... good start

OneBigThrow · 08-01-2008, 12:55 PM

A good ****in company would deal with each ****in infracton the same ****in way otherwise theyd ****in risk civil ****in action

thats why there are HR departments man, im glad your job is better than any other job on the planet given that you have no clue where i work

but...im just sayin...a fair company...which is the root of this issue

how is this fair? if Dwight Schrute can get **** canned for sneakin off to new york and he was THE BEST SALESPERSON AT DUNDER MIFFLIN than dunder mifflin is a damn good company...kinda

sort of...damn good fictional company

i havea **** load of smart remarks bud, i love it

T-Bone · 08-01-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OneBigThrow

if Dwight Schrute can get **** canned for sneakin off to new york and he was THE BEST SALESPERSON AT DUNDER MIFFLIN than dunder mifflin is a damn good company...kinda

holy **** I'm clearing out my DVR and watching that episode right now

Ventre · 08-01-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OneBigThrow

A good ****in company would deal with each ****in infracton the same ****in way otherwise theyd ****in risk civil ****in action

thats why there are HR departments man, im glad your job is better than any other job on the planet given that you have no clue where i work

but...im just sayin...a fair company...which is the root of this issue

how is this fair? if Dwight Schrute can get **** canned for sneakin off to new york and he was THE BEST SALESPERSON AT DUNDER MIFFLIN than dunder mifflin is a damn good company...kinda

sort of...damn good fictional company

i havea **** load of smart remarks bud, i love it

You can't ****ing cuss on the god damn ****ing forums or they might ****ing ban your mother ****ing ***

Mulla · 08-01-2008, 03:27 PM

People seem to be forgetting that JT had screwed up badly before making these comments. If saying what he did was all he had done then that would be one thing, but he'd already p*ssed Dana off by acting like a fool and getting kicked off the show and so he was already on his 2nd chance when he came back. Making the comment was obviously the final straw. Nothing unfair about that imo.

Scarecrow · 08-01-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ventre

You can't ****ing cuss on the god damn ****ing forums or they might ****ing ban your mother ****ing ***

Shpongled · 08-01-2008, 06:19 PM

JT has displayed numerous acts of immaturity during his stint on TUF and afterwards. He clearly doesn't have the right mindset to be a pro fighter right now and Dana told him that the first time he kicked him out. Dana told him if he gets his act together, to give a call. It happened, so Dana gave him another chance. He said something he shouldn't have and blew it. Unfortunately, as has already been stated, that's the way it goes when you're a noob, in any industry/profession. You don't get away with things that other more experienced people do. Such is life.

Rampage has always been a class act for the most part inside and outside of the ring. He's never done anything before to upset Dana or the UFC. He's obviously got some mental issues that he was able to hide for a long time. He finally snapped and went off the deep end. Dana went to help him by bailing him out and being there for him, the same as he did with JT when he told him to shape up and call him later.

I agree that the things Rampage did are much worse than anything JT did or said, but I think the bottom line is that JT has consistenly proven that he's not ready mentally and not mature enough to be in the UFC, whereas Rampage has proven he IS over and over again, but had a (hopefully) momentary lapse of reason. I think a huge factor in all of this is that Rampage's rampage didn't hurt anybody.

Shpongled · 08-01-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mulla

People seem to be forgetting that JT had screwed up badly before making these comments. If saying what he did was all he had done then that would be one thing, but he'd already p*ssed Dana off by acting like a fool and getting kicked off the show and so he was already on his 2nd chance when he came back. Making the comment was obviously the final straw. Nothing unfair about that imo.

I promise I didn't see this until after I made my post hahaha

asronn · 08-01-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Shpongled

JT has displayed numerous acts of immaturity during his stint on TUF and afterwards. He clearly doesn't have the right mindset to be a pro fighter right now and Dana told him that the first time he kicked him out. Dana told him if he gets his act together, to give a call. It happened, so Dana gave him another chance. He said something he shouldn't have and blew it. Unfortunately, as has already been stated, that's the way it goes when you're a noob, in any industry/profession. You don't get away with things that other more experienced people do. Such is life.

Rampage has always been a class act for the most part inside and outside of the ring. He's never done anything before to upset Dana or the UFC. He's obviously got some mental issues that he was able to hide for a long time. He finally snapped and went off the deep end. Dana went to help him by bailing him out and being there for him, the same as he did with JT when he told him to shape up and call him later.

I agree that the things Rampage did are much worse than anything JT did or said, but I think the bottom line is that JT has consistenly proven that he's not ready mentally and not mature enough to be in the UFC, whereas Rampage has proven he IS over and over again, but had a (hopefully) momentary lapse of reason. I think a huge factor in all of this is that Rampage's rampage didn't hurt anybody.

Im sure the fact that Rampage wasnt under the influence at the time adds to it being a different kind of problem for Rampage. While JT is just immature and not very entertaining.

OneBigThrow · 08-01-2008, 09:05 PM

lol

****

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gsp made me do it, i actually had to put effort into that post

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holy **** I'm clearing out my DVR and watching that episode right now

ha i jumped on the office train real late so im behind

Ventre · 08-01-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mulla

People seem to be forgetting that JT had screwed up badly before making these comments. If saying what he did was all he had done then that would be one thing, but he'd already p*ssed Dana off by acting like a fool and getting kicked off the show and so he was already on his 2nd chance when he came back. Making the comment was obviously the final straw. Nothing unfair about that imo.

Granted but dana allowed him to come back & by doing that he forgave him.

As far as I am concerned what he said wasn't reason enough to drop him, I mean hell if you want why not fire the guy asking him the question in the first place lol.

Its not like he got on there & said a bunch of mean things about him or the ufc.

Hell might as well fire bj penn for saying "shrek, your dead" thats a threat you know.

Dirty Fighter · 08-01-2008, 09:40 PM

The difference between Pages comments and JT's is that JT's did not reflect the companies views on the incidents. Rampage was right is his assessment of JT's readiness to represent the UFC and MMA in general, while JT was just being immature once again.

MTKrav911 · 08-01-2008, 11:47 PM

Employees don't have as many rights as they think they do. Union or non-union.

Part of the problem in this country in the workforce right now.

Too much crybaby ****, not enough productivity.

Scarecrow · 08-02-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MTKrav911

Employees don't have as many rights as they think they do. Union or non-union.

Part of the problem in this country in the workforce right now.

Too much crybaby ****, not enough productivity.

Word.