EDITION: Fight Forum
MMA & UFC FORUM BOXING FORUM WRESTLING FORUM EVERYTHING ELSE FAQs
LIVE FORUMS FOR MMA, UFC, AND OTHER FIGHTING
Registered Users, Log In Here
This thread has had no replies for more than 90 days, and is now closed to further replies.
JT Money released (again)

OneBigThrow

Posted 2:41 pm, 08/03/2008

Do some of you honestly believe that JT will take this to the Supreme Court and get his job back with the UFC? Seriously? That is just foolishness. JT showed that he does not think with his head at all.



lol hell nah i dont believe that, but fundamentally i do not think it is right that is all

it is just personal perspective, not a call to any particular action

opsy

Posted 10:00 am, 08/03/2008

Getting released these days doesn't necessarily mean they are out. Jake O'Brien was released then given a fight no more than a few months later.

subgenius

Posted 8:26 am, 08/03/2008

JT got what he deserved. He was on double-secret blind probation. LOL, a little Animal House humor there, but it applies. The UFC let him back in, and then he lost an important fight. So, what does he do? He kicks Rampage Jackson while Rampage is down. What? Did JT think that Rampage had no friends in the UFC? Freedom of speech? WTH does THAT have to do with anything? Do some of you honestly believe that JT will take this to the Supreme Court and get his job back with the UFC? Seriously? That is just foolishness. JT showed that he does not think with his head at all.

ge master

Posted 8:47 pm, 08/02/2008

I'm sort of changing my stance on this. I do think that any newcomer needs to shut their trap and not comment on any veteran fighters problems. If it's not positive comments, then shut thy mouth. I think JT was given physical gifts, not mental gifts. Each of us can decide how out of balance those gifts are. I still say that Dana hates him, and has effectively used him as a whipping boy to make everyone else scared. Seems like scare tactics and a serious power trip. Surprise surprise. Think of some of the stupid comments coming from war machine. Was he fired? No, no he wasn't. Why? Guess. Further to this, war machine is a nobody. At the very least, JT was a finalist and possibly the season winner. He was screwed out of that, and he loses right after an illegal knee to his head. All I can say is, all the best for JT in the future.

two_guns_blazing

Posted 8:12 pm, 08/02/2008

Shpongled


I agree that the things Rampage did are much worse than anything JT did or said, but I think the bottom line is that JT has consistenly proven that he's not ready mentally and not mature enough to be in the UFC, whereas Rampage has proven he IS over and over again, but had a (hopefully) momentary lapse of reason. I think a huge factor in all of this is that Rampage's rampage didn't hurt anybody.



I wish that were still true....

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=6813&z=13

fullonshred

Posted 4:33 pm, 08/02/2008

It was a lame reason to dismiss a fighter. Period.

Scarecrow

Posted 9:33 am, 08/02/2008

MTKrav911

Employees don't have as many rights as they think they do. Union or non-union.

Part of the problem in this country in the workforce right now.

Too much crybaby ****, not enough productivity.



Word.

MTKrav911

Posted 9:47 pm, 08/01/2008

Employees don't have as many rights as they think they do. Union or non-union.

Part of the problem in this country in the workforce right now.

Too much crybaby ****, not enough productivity.

Dirty Fighter

Posted 7:40 pm, 08/01/2008

The difference between Pages comments and JT's is that JT's did not reflect the companies views on the incidents. Rampage was right is his assessment of JT's readiness to represent the UFC and MMA in general, while JT was just being immature once again.

Crazy Hawk

Posted 7:34 pm, 08/01/2008

Mulla

People seem to be forgetting that JT had screwed up badly before making these comments. If saying what he did was all he had done then that would be one thing, but he'd already p*ssed Dana off by acting like a fool and getting kicked off the show and so he was already on his 2nd chance when he came back. Making the comment was obviously the final straw. Nothing unfair about that imo.



Granted but dana allowed him to come back & by doing that he forgave him.

As far as I am concerned what he said wasn't reason enough to drop him, I mean hell if you want why not fire the guy asking him the question in the first place lol.

Its not like he got on there & said a bunch of mean things about him or the ufc.

Hell might as well fire bj penn for saying "shrek, your dead" thats a threat you know.

OneBigThrow

Posted 7:05 pm, 08/01/2008

lol

****

****

****

gsp made me do it, i actually had to put effort into that post

holy **** I'm clearing out my DVR and watching that episode right now



ha i jumped on the office train real late so im behind

asronn

Posted 5:46 pm, 08/01/2008

Shpongled

JT has displayed numerous acts of immaturity during his stint on TUF and afterwards. He clearly doesn't have the right mindset to be a pro fighter right now and Dana told him that the first time he kicked him out. Dana told him if he gets his act together, to give a call. It happened, so Dana gave him another chance. He said something he shouldn't have and blew it. Unfortunately, as has already been stated, that's the way it goes when you're a noob, in any industry/profession. You don't get away with things that other more experienced people do. Such is life.

Rampage has always been a class act for the most part inside and outside of the ring. He's never done anything before to upset Dana or the UFC. He's obviously got some mental issues that he was able to hide for a long time. He finally snapped and went off the deep end. Dana went to help him by bailing him out and being there for him, the same as he did with JT when he told him to shape up and call him later.

I agree that the things Rampage did are much worse than anything JT did or said, but I think the bottom line is that JT has consistenly proven that he's not ready mentally and not mature enough to be in the UFC, whereas Rampage has proven he IS over and over again, but had a (hopefully) momentary lapse of reason. I think a huge factor in all of this is that Rampage's rampage didn't hurt anybody.



Im sure the fact that Rampage wasnt under the influence at the time adds to it being a different kind of problem for Rampage. While JT is just immature and not very entertaining.

Shpongled

Posted 4:20 pm, 08/01/2008

Mulla

People seem to be forgetting that JT had screwed up badly before making these comments. If saying what he did was all he had done then that would be one thing, but he'd already p*ssed Dana off by acting like a fool and getting kicked off the show and so he was already on his 2nd chance when he came back. Making the comment was obviously the final straw. Nothing unfair about that imo.



I promise I didn't see this until after I made my post hahaha :D

Shpongled

Posted 4:19 pm, 08/01/2008

JT has displayed numerous acts of immaturity during his stint on TUF and afterwards. He clearly doesn't have the right mindset to be a pro fighter right now and Dana told him that the first time he kicked him out. Dana told him if he gets his act together, to give a call. It happened, so Dana gave him another chance. He said something he shouldn't have and blew it. Unfortunately, as has already been stated, that's the way it goes when you're a noob, in any industry/profession. You don't get away with things that other more experienced people do. Such is life.

Rampage has always been a class act for the most part inside and outside of the ring. He's never done anything before to upset Dana or the UFC. He's obviously got some mental issues that he was able to hide for a long time. He finally snapped and went off the deep end. Dana went to help him by bailing him out and being there for him, the same as he did with JT when he told him to shape up and call him later.

I agree that the things Rampage did are much worse than anything JT did or said, but I think the bottom line is that JT has consistenly proven that he's not ready mentally and not mature enough to be in the UFC, whereas Rampage has proven he IS over and over again, but had a (hopefully) momentary lapse of reason. I think a huge factor in all of this is that Rampage's rampage didn't hurt anybody.

Scarecrow

Posted 2:32 pm, 08/01/2008

Ventre

You can't ****ing cuss on the god damn ****ing forums or they might ****ing ban your mother ****ing ***

;) ;)



:laughing-

Mulla

Posted 1:27 pm, 08/01/2008

People seem to be forgetting that JT had screwed up badly before making these comments. If saying what he did was all he had done then that would be one thing, but he'd already p*ssed Dana off by acting like a fool and getting kicked off the show and so he was already on his 2nd chance when he came back. Making the comment was obviously the final straw. Nothing unfair about that imo.

Crazy Hawk

Posted 11:41 am, 08/01/2008

OneBigThrow

A good ****in company would deal with each ****in infracton the same ****in way otherwise theyd ****in risk civil ****in action

thats why there are HR departments man, im glad your job is better than any other job on the planet given that you have no clue where i work

but...im just sayin...a fair company...which is the root of this issue

how is this fair? if Dwight Schrute can get **** canned for sneakin off to new york and he was THE BEST SALESPERSON AT DUNDER MIFFLIN than dunder mifflin is a damn good company...kinda

sort of...damn good fictional company

i havea **** load of smart remarks bud, i love it



You can't ****ing cuss on the god damn ****ing forums or they might ****ing ban your mother ****ing ***

;) ;)

T-Bone

Posted 11:01 am, 08/01/2008

OneBigThrow


if Dwight Schrute can get **** canned for sneakin off to new york and he was THE BEST SALESPERSON AT DUNDER MIFFLIN than dunder mifflin is a damn good company...kinda



holy **** I'm clearing out my DVR and watching that episode right now

OneBigThrow

Posted 10:55 am, 08/01/2008

A good ****in company would deal with each ****in infracton the same ****in way otherwise theyd ****in risk civil ****in action

thats why there are HR departments man, im glad your job is better than any other job on the planet given that you have no clue where i work

but...im just sayin...a fair company...which is the root of this issue

how is this fair? if Dwight Schrute can get **** canned for sneakin off to new york and he was THE BEST SALESPERSON AT DUNDER MIFFLIN than dunder mifflin is a damn good company...kinda

sort of...damn good fictional company

i havea **** load of smart remarks bud, i love it

GSPALLTHEWAY

Posted 10:50 am, 08/01/2008

OneBigThrow

nah im pretty sure as employees you are allowed to air grievances on personal matters

or do you not have a job?



if i was a brand new employee in any industry and starting complaining and talking about major employees i would be fired...

and yes i do... better than yours.... any other smart comments? at least you didnt swear in that post... good start

NEXT ►
IN THE NEWS
How an MMA fighter found salvation among the Pygmies
Justin Wren, who has fought on “The Ultimate Fighter” and battled drug addiction, found his calling by helping "The Forgotten People” of the ...