JT Money released (again)

T-Bone · 07-31-2008, 12:04 PM

Enabling doesn't help but maybe he'll get another shot.

Report: Jesse Taylor released by UFC :Five Ounces of Pain

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A report in the July 29 print edition of the Wrestling Observer has confirmed rumblings that middleweight Jesse Taylor was dropped by the UFC for the second time in the span of four months following his loss at UFC Fight Night 14 to C.B. Dollaway.

A member of Team Quest in Temecula, Taylor’s overall MMA record fell to 6-3 at UFN 14 by submitting to Dollaway at 3:58 of round 1 after being caught in a Peruvian necktie.

While UFC officials were said to be disappointed by the loss, the Observer indicates that Taylor’s comments about Quinton “Rampage” Jackson in the wake of Jackson’s arrest by the Costa Mesa Police Department earlier this month is what did him in.

Taylor was a finalist on the seventh season of TUF but lost his spot after being kicked off the show by UFC President Dana White following an incident at a Station Casinos hotel in Las Vegas in which Taylor was intoxicated and was seen on camera kicking out the window of a limousine.

In response to seeing the tape of Taylor, Jackson said on the show that the UFC didn’t need someone like Taylor representing the company. When asked about Jackson’s recent arrest, Taylor was quoted as saying “What goes around, come around, I guess.”

The comments by Taylor were said to have angered UFC officials. A contrite Taylor later backed off his statements after it was revealed that Jackson had undergone a mental evaluation but a final decision to dismiss Taylor again had already been made.

Mulla · 07-31-2008, 12:19 PM

Not surprising really. No doubt he'll get picked up sharpish by a smaller promotion.

Crashsti · 07-31-2008, 12:21 PM

Man, that guy just doesn't know when to stay out of the spotlight. All he has to do is sit down and shut up and there is no problem.

Disco · 07-31-2008, 12:26 PM

Oh, and the guy needs some more skills, too. JT will always get spotlighted because of his past, but he needs to get recognized because of his successes. He'll probably beat up on some schmo in EliteXC next month on TV. Ha!

WanderleiSilver · 07-31-2008, 12:29 PM

What did he think was going to happen?, seriously this guy really is stupid.

I bet if he wasn't always making himself look bad he would have got another couple of chances to win. This is probably the best thing for him though he could be a force in one of the smaller promotions IMO.

fullonshred · 07-31-2008, 12:33 PM

Pretty pathetic by the UFC in my opinion. I figured he must have said something exceedingly inflammatory or got drunk again and busted up some crap after he lost to CB.

Seriously, to drop a guy for saying "What goes around comes around"?? And after what 'Page did? Get real! Total lame-o BS by Dana. I wish I had more arms so I could give those bitches 4 thumbs down.

Disco · 07-31-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WanderleiSliver

What did he think was going to happen?, seriously this guy really is stupid.

I bet if he wasn't always making himself look bad he would have got another couple of chances to win. This is probably the best thing for him though he could be a force in one of the smaller promotions IMO.

He's apparently a force in an enclosed limo.

Crazy Hawk · 07-31-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fullonshred

Pretty pathetic by the UFC in my opinion. I figured he must have said something exceedingly inflammatory or got drunk again and busted up some crap after he lost to CB.

Seriously, to drop a guy for saying "What goes around comes around"?? And after what 'Page did? Get real! Total lame-o BS by Dana. I wish I had more arms so I could give those bitches 4 thumbs down.

Ehh I have to agree, I am not a jt lover by any means but I really don't think that firing someone for stating thier opinion is right.
Granted it wasn't a cool thing to say but it is his right to say it.

TdotMMAfan · 07-31-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DISCO

He's apparently a force in an enclosed limo.

Well put.

Wow, we see he has a hard time handling success (winning the show) and blowing it afterwards.

2nd chance, has a hard time handling defeat (Sick sub). Lack of composure, a revenge shot at Page (mild yet he had to know he was on a shorter lease than anyone else....Probabtion is like that.

Still while I never cared for him and watching his fights, I wish him and his family better luck for the future.

RustyShackleford · 07-31-2008, 03:05 PM

Good riddance. A guy who is lacking in maturity and good judgment the way he is needs to have a lot more skill to stick around.

compcast · 07-31-2008, 03:31 PM

Thats a poor excuse for cutting the guy,thought we had freedom of speech but guess not huh.dana white talks alot of sh_t with no reprocusions but dont let someone else same something.thank god for affliction and elite xc jesse taylor,thats another reason we need another top organization out there for these type of corporate ufc bullies.

two_guns_blazing · 07-31-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by compcast

Thats a poor excuse for cutting the guy,thought we had freedom of speech but guess not huh.

That's not really the same thing. Freedom of Speech gives you the right to say what you what, but it doesn't give you freedom from the reprecussions it may have. It's just as if you were going around making comments about a co-worker. If it's bad enough, or if your employer doesn't like it, they can let you go. Has nothing to do with having the freedom to say what you want. You can say what you like, but you also have to take responsibility for it.

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Originally Posted by compcast

dana white talks alot of sh_t with no reprocusions but dont let someone else same something.

Again, not the same. He's the boss. Besides, he's not badmouthing his employees or co-workers. He talks sh*t about the competition. Not necessarily a nice thing, but it happens.

FF's #1 Vbookier NateRupe · 07-31-2008, 04:41 PM

He'll always be remembered as the guy who got caught in that cool submission.

fullonshred · 07-31-2008, 04:56 PM

What JT said was very very mild. Certainly not as bad a thing as BJ Penn holding in that choke on Jens Pulver over-long. Dana has his pets and they can do no wrong. Everyone else is subject to his temperamental fits of whimsy.

MTKrav911 · 07-31-2008, 05:19 PM

I wanna see him fight Kimbo

MK3Design · 07-31-2008, 08:47 PM

I never liked him as a fighter... He won with his strength only (not saying he didnt have skills at all). But that got him through most of TUF...It wouldnt have gotten him anywhere but 0-5 in the UFC(or any other decent promotion he goes to).

Scarecrow · 07-31-2008, 09:53 PM

Although I'm not surprised that he was dropped, I always thought it would be for something different. Considering that Rampage threw his own personal opinion into JT's personal issues on national television, I think that JT's comments were actually justified.

Lets compare what happened between the two. Rampage and JT both opened their mouths and said something they shouldn't have. Rampage to the entire US via television, and JT to a much smaller audience that probably hasn't gone past some internet forums.

And then we have destruction of private property and disruption of the peace. JT kicks out a limo window (big woop-t-doo) and terrorizes some old fogies playing slot poker. Max damage maybe around 2 grand. Rampage takes a 3-ton monster truck on a joyride through the city smashing into everything in his path with a trail of cops tailing a mile behind him. Damage was probably 100k or more.

Now, I might not be the best person at comparing simple issues like this, but I would be willing to bet that Rampage gets red carpet treatment as soon as he comes back to the cage. Tell me, who really got screwed here?

Cuts O Meat · 07-31-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ventre

Ehh I have to agree, I am not a jt lover by any means but I really don't think that firing someone for stating thier opinion is right.
Granted it wasn't a cool thing to say but it is his right to say it.

You pretty much took the words right out of my mouth.

T-Bone · 07-31-2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ventre

Ehh I have to agree, I am not a jt lover by any means but I really don't think that firing someone for stating thier opinion is right.
Granted it wasn't a cool thing to say but it is his right to say it.

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Originally Posted by Cuts O Meat

You pretty much took the words right out of my mouth.

Yeah same here...not a JT kinda guy. Sometimes things like this can happen when you bring back a loose cannon. Did he deserve to be fired over a comment...probably not but I think he shouldn't have been back so fast anyway. They took a risk and it didn't pay off...well it paid off for someone

ge master · 08-01-2008, 01:44 AM

I've always backed JT Taylor (insert Rogan joke here) because he was basically shafted from TUF so called incident. Now, this story is kind of loose. I mean, was it Dana himself doing this firing? If it was (speculation) Dana then this should be enough to sway even the most staunch Dana supporters. Dana is trying to send a message isn't he? Isn't he saying, I'm the almighty, if you do something I don't like, or if I just don't like you, then I will can your ass in an instant. Isn't he making a spectacle of JT? Sure seems like it to me. Can somebody find the real story on this? I hate to speculate. Dana, if all this is true, is simply proving to me that he is a four letter word, starting with N and ending with an i. I can't think of any other way to describe the man right now, if this was his doing. If it wasn't, then I apologize. But, incidents and behaviour like this make me think he's a little H _ _ _ er.