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Brock Lesnar�s next opponent could be Cheick Kongo
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y0utapped
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Posted 5:33 am, 08/29/2008
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just watched mma live and they said you can pretty much count out kongo as lensar's next opponent due to a shoulder injury
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MickTaig
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Posted 12:36 pm, 08/26/2008
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SmashingMachine | Yes, but Herring's a striker who just recently beat Kongo. I don't see the point. I see your point. But, I don't see the point of this fight. |
I agree that this bout is odd or pointless because Herring has previously beat Kongo. However, I think Kongo is a more skilled, powerful, and cerebral striker, and Sub made a good point of Kongo possible reach advantage, If I were Kongo I'd be quite weary of kicking there by exposing a leg. I think the UFC are expecting Brock to win and show he can deal with strikers, and this will give him another win on his record. It's abit early, but who would Brock's next fight be if he wins??
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Crazy Hawk
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Posted 9:57 am, 08/26/2008
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LEFTHIGHKICK | I understand totally about the cage experience , but I honestly feel at this point, he can give anyone a big challenge at HW including Big nog who which did not give Herring a beating even close to what like Lesnar did!
Herring pretty much knocked out Big nog, but Herring backed off in which he made a big mistake there.
I dont have anything to base this on , but I just feel that Lesnar is just a huge dude, and his "COME OUT GUNS BLAZING" , strategy is actually working well for him , as his power and size is just overwhelming for anyone. Lets face it, I love Frank Mir, he's one of my favourites, and I believe he was lucky to have caught Lesnar in a knee lock , if he hadnt, he would have been grounded and pounded soon after. |
I do believe he could be a threat to nog but remember that nog is famous for getting in trouble and coming out of it. I personally would rather brock get alot of wins first so that way theres no controversy about him deserving the title shot. He will have earned it & all the wwe smashers will have nothing truely to say lol. I am also waiting to see how the young stud green bret former wwe start bobby lashely does in the organization he joined. Bobby Lashley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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LEFTHIGHKICK
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Posted 8:06 am, 08/26/2008
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Ventre | Jesus christ people, first people complain that brock needs more matches and against people he has a better chance of winning but then people complain that he is getting fed easy wins which btw is never really true *serra vs gsp part 1*
Anything can happen in this game and you all know this.
Right now kongos punching skills are from what we know more superior then brocks considering brock tends to knock everyone down in his first punch so we don't know what skills he has there.
Kongo is getting a little better on the ground but nothing like herring but in the same respect kongo seems better under pressure from attack then herring does so who knows what will happen.
Thing is brock is powerful & might be hard to beat but he still needs that in cage exp so why feed him fighters he stands no chance against?
Do I think he will destroy nog in the future? hell yeah! do I now? **** no lol. |
I understand totally about the cage experience , but I honestly feel at this point, he can give anyone a big challenge at HW including Big nog who which did not give Herring a beating even close to what like Lesnar did! Herring pretty much knocked out Big nog, but Herring backed off in which he made a big mistake there. I dont have anything to base this on , but I just feel that Lesnar is just a huge dude, and his "COME OUT GUNS BLAZING" , strategy is actually working well for him , as his power and size is just overwhelming for anyone. Lets face it, I love Frank Mir, he's one of my favourites, and I believe he was lucky to have caught Lesnar in a knee lock , if he hadnt, he would have been grounded and pounded soon after.
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subgenius
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Posted 7:50 am, 08/26/2008
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MickTaig | This is a far better fight for Lesnar than it is for Kongo. Brock knows he can take Kongo down, and Kongo should know this as well. Hopefully Kongo will manage to avoid a couple take downs and at least test Brock's jaw. I think this bout is purely to see how Brock sizes up against a fighter who is primarily a striker, if can take a punch/kick, and how he deals with it. |
I agree. Kongo is a big tough guy that is used to fighting opponents that are a few inches shorter and usually lighter in weight. It seems that way for him in the UFC. I am not really sure about Kongo's RINGS fights or his kickboxing fights. In MMA and in the UFC, it seems like Kongo cannot get it done on the ground. Wrestling is a huge hole in Kongo's game. Brock Lesnar definitely needs to get the fight down on the ground. If anybody is tall enough to test Lesnar in striking, then it should be Kongo. I would like to see if Kongo can kick Lesnar in the head.
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Crazy Hawk
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Posted 5:50 pm, 08/25/2008
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SmashingMachine | Yes, but Herring's a striker who just recently beat Kongo. I don't see the point. I see your point. But, I don't see the point of this fight. |
He won by a decision right? Either way it better for brock. This way he gets more fight exp.
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SmashingMachine
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Posted 5:33 pm, 08/25/2008
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MickTaig | This is a far better fight for Lesnar than it is for Kongo. Brock knows he can take Kongo down, and Kongo should know this as well. Hopefully Kongo will manage to avoid a couple takedowns and atleast test Brock's jaw. I think this bout is purely to see how Brock sizes up against a fighter who is primarily a striker, if can take a punch/kick, and how he deals with it. |
Yes, but Herring's a striker who just recently beat Kongo. I don't see the point. I see your point. But, I don't see the point of this fight.
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mbro12
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Posted 2:44 pm, 08/25/2008
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This is the exact matchup I said to some friends Id like to see after the Lesnar/Herring fight.
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MickTaig
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Posted 11:27 am, 08/25/2008
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This is a far better fight for Lesnar than it is for Kongo. Brock knows he can take Kongo down, and Kongo should know this as well. Hopefully Kongo will manage to avoid a couple takedowns and atleast test Brock's jaw. I think this bout is purely to see how Brock sizes up against a fighter who is primarily a striker, if can take a punch/kick, and how he deals with it.
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T-Bone
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Posted 5:47 pm, 08/23/2008
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How is this an exciting fight?
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stillstanding
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Posted 9:29 pm, 08/22/2008
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SmashingMachine | Yeah, Cecil Peoples scored the fight a win for Herring too...lol. |
That is just wrong! hahaha:biggthump
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SmashingMachine
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Posted 9:25 pm, 08/22/2008
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Ventre | According to some stats, herring hit him like 27 times from what i read. |
Yeah, Cecil Peoples scored the fight a win for Herring too...lol.
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Crazy Hawk
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Posted 10:58 am, 08/22/2008
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Beazt | I've given this some more thought and if Kongo is going to face Lesnar, then now is the best time.
When Kongo gets taken down he doesn't need to be worried about being subbed by Lesnar.
We saw with Herring that Lesnar does not put his hooks in.
Being that Kongo is much bigger/stronger than Herring he can hope to buck Lesnar off and stand back up.
Now......that being said. I don't think he can accomplish this. But now is best time for a Lesnar opponent to leave limbs out there and buck. |
True except that brock already stated that he never intended to go for any type of sub attempts because the game plan was to put pressure on herring and gnp. Can he sub? guess we will have to wait although I forget who it is he brought in to step up his training with bjj but I read somewhere the guy is a reknowned bjj master.
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Beazt
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Posted 8:18 am, 08/22/2008
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I've given this some more thought and if Kongo is going to face Lesnar, then now is the best time.
When Kongo gets taken down he doesn't need to be worried about being subbed by Lesnar.
We saw with Herring that Lesnar does not put his hooks in.
Being that Kongo is much bigger/stronger than Herring he can hope to buck Lesnar off and stand back up.
Now......that being said. I don't think he can accomplish this. But now is best time for a Lesnar opponent to leave limbs out there and buck.
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Mulla
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Posted 6:18 am, 08/22/2008
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FYI I have merged the 2 threads by onip69 and nublood on this same subject :)
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Crazy Hawk
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Posted 8:59 pm, 08/21/2008
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glockmn | Heath gave him a pretty good knee in the last fight and it didn't seem to bother him any |
According to some stats, herring hit him like 27 times from what i read.
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glockmn
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Posted 8:55 pm, 08/21/2008
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FightFan76 | I know Kongo hits really hard and I dont care if he gets taken down and beaton as long as I get to see him test Brocks chin 1st. I am not saying he has a weak chin or anything but rather I have not seen him take a good hard shot from a kick/punch and I am really interested to see how he reacts to that. I believe Kongo has a better opportunity to get a good shot in than Brock's 1st 2 opponents in the UFC..... |
Heath gave him a pretty good knee in the last fight and it didn't seem to bother him any
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Crazy Hawk
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Posted 8:38 pm, 08/21/2008
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Jesus christ people, first people complain that brock needs more matches and against people he has a better chance of winning but then people complain that he is getting fed easy wins which btw is never really true *serra vs gsp part 1*
Anything can happen in this game and you all know this.
Right now kongos punching skills are from what we know more superior then brocks considering brock tends to knock everyone down in his first punch so we don't know what skills he has there.
Kongo is getting a little better on the ground but nothing like herring but in the same respect kongo seems better under pressure from attack then herring does so who knows what will happen.
Thing is brock is powerful & might be hard to beat but he still needs that in cage exp so why feed him fighters he stands no chance against?
Do I think he will destroy nog in the future? hell yeah! do I now? **** no lol.
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MTKrav911
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Posted 7:50 pm, 08/21/2008
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I have to admit. Something about this fight just simply doesent pump my nag
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SmashingMachine
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Posted 7:43 pm, 08/21/2008
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This is a waste of time and money. Kongo's got about as much of a chance for winning this fight as I do. Judas! Put Lesnar in with someone who can fight back. Rematch him with Mir...let's see how good he does this time.
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