ultimate fight night 3 (disapointing)

MICHAELSON79 · 01-17-2006, 01:36 AM

the fights were to quick and i think the fighters were really cockey expecially burkman. i hope deigo tears him up if he gets a shot. and for leben he was his usual self and when he steps into the ring with a good grappler he will be contained i cant beleive rivera would try to bang with leben.

666 · 01-17-2006, 01:55 AM

I thought it was funny how Bonnar said "whoever the UFC sets me up with, Im all forrest, I mean for it"

Unknown · 01-17-2006, 01:59 AM

So burkman is cocky because he thinks he can beat diego, and you hope that the man who said he was the uncrowned champ (in a devision with the likes of Hughes, BJ, Karo, GSP, and Sherk) will beat him? Burkman has some serious skills. Trust me on this one. The guy could very well be the 2nd strongest WW in the UFC and he has some good mma skill to go along with it and he is training with team quest.

And you didn't like the fights because they were quick?

I liked the fights (with the exception of the main event) they weren't all time greats but they were good and they were free. The biggest dissapointment was the announcement. I don't excect a great fight from hws anymore. I havn't seen a good heavyweigh fight in months. But it was free so you can't really be too disapointed with that.

Hey Jorge likes to throw punches and work the clinch. Didn't work against leben. I knew it wouldn't and knew that would still be his gameplan cauze that what jorge dose best.

Anti-Sanchez · 01-17-2006, 06:39 AM

I was most disappointed by Irvin last night. I have to admit I thought he was going to beat Bonnar. That was one of the most wicked Kimoras (sp?) I've ever seen. I wonder how bad Irvins arm is hurt after that. Stephan said he could hear things tearing inside it.

JoeRoganismyhero · 01-17-2006, 07:18 AM

Yeah that was a bad Kimura!! I thought Irvin would knock out Bonnar, but Bonnar's game plan was simple...keep him on the ground so irvin didn't have a chance to use his power. And Rivera losing so quickly to leben, this is a guy that beat Loiseau and gave Franklin all he could handle?!?! And "The Master" couldn't get out of a guillotine choke by Burkman?... Drew here's a hint, Put your hand on Josh's elbow then push down!!! The TUF guys were VERY impressive last night!!

two_guns_blazing · 01-17-2006, 08:31 AM

As far as the fights themselves, I was impressed by everyone except Sylvia, and that's not really his fault. Silva seemed content to hang on and take an ocassional big shot. But by far the one who did it for me was Burkman. I thought Fickett was going to be a legit test, but Josh made him look silly. And Leben looked good, even considering Rivera rocked him right before the KO.

JoeRoganismyhero · 01-17-2006, 10:07 AM

yeah I don't understand what Silva's game plan was, he didn't want to shoot because he didn't want to get caught by Sylvia's knees but he didn't want to get to close to Sylvia in the stand up because of the reach advantage. so he stood at mid range and let Sylvia pepper him with jabs and straight kicks all during the fight and he went for a pulling guard only when they were close to the cage and Sylvia just stood him up straight against the cage!!

dagenhamdave · 01-17-2006, 10:23 AM

I agree with unknown. The biggest flop was the main event. I thought Silva had a real chance of winning that one but he did nothing except hit Tim with that one big punch. The other disappointment was the announcement. They made it sound like MMA will never be the same again and they announce that Royce is fighting his one fight a year in the UFC in 2006? Who cares? It could be a good match if they do some nice grappling but I'm more excited to see BJ and GSP go at it or even Forrest and Tito for that matter. There are so many fights coming up this year that are more exciting than this one.

I'm happy Burkman called out Diego and I hope he gets the fight and finishes Diego quick.

SWIBC · 01-17-2006, 10:24 AM

Some very surprising fights.

I could not believe Leben beat down Rivera so quick, I expected the Rivera who be "The Crow" to show instead he took a punch and covered up.
Bonnar was impressive over Irvin.
Burkman is going to be a challenger in the near future, maybe have him go against Karo in the near future or better yet give us a the TUF Final we should have seen against Stevenson.
Finally the HW were weak, bad when the most excitement in the match came when Silvia nearly mooned the crowd 5 different times. AA has to be licking his chops b/c he will tear Silvia apart. Also anyone else think if Tim did not grab the fence that Silva would have suplexed him over and probably got a sub of some sort???

Thrash13 · 01-17-2006, 10:41 AM

Overall, I definitely think it was the worst of the LIVE television performances to date. The Ultimate Fighter 1 and 2 finales were better, as was UFN1 and UFN2.

That being said, I still enjoyed the show. Like Unknown said, it was free UFC, and that means something to me for sure. The fights weren't bad by any means, but they weren't classics either. Leben, Burkman, and Bonnar were impressive. Tim Sylvia did his job and fought a smart fight. I don't blame him one bit and don't blame the lackluster main event on him one bit.

I was highly disappointed in Silva's performance, especially after hearing so much praise for him the past week or so. He didn't deliver, but I hope he gets another shot. Sylvia is probably the worst possible match-up for him in the UFC, as he is the same size as all the other HWs and will be successful I believe.

It just upsets me that they talk and jack around so much. They could have easily showed us another fight or two. I'm glad they showed us Bang's fight, but that didn't take much since it was only 11 seconds. They just do a lot of talking, and it makes it tough to follow all the way through at times.

The HUGE announcement was anything but huge. We all knew about it already, and it was the one I didn't care about as much. I would rather see the LWs brought back or the UFCs in California announced. Royce Gracie may be the best of all-time, but Hughes is going to dominate him in my opinion. I don't see it going past the first round. But that could just be a new MMA guy talking. I may not know what I'm talking about.

Overall, it was free and definitely worth it. But I hope the next one is a little better overall. It's not a bad thing to critique a little here and there.

kane · 01-17-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 666

I thought it was funny how Bonnar said "whoever the UFC sets me up with, Im all forrest, I mean for it"

666 do you know how duane did against ramon dekkers?

666 · 01-17-2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

666 do you know how duane did against ramon dekkers?

I didnt see the fight but Im sure he didnt do too bad, since he went the full distance with him. Dekkers won by decision (30-24, 30-24, 30-25)

kane · 01-17-2006, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 666

I didnt see the fight but Im sure he didnt do too bad, since he went the full distance with him. Dekkers won by decision (30-24, 30-24, 30-25)

I assuming duane has a decent chin since he didn't get knocked out and went the distance.

ChipShank · 01-18-2006, 05:56 PM

I don't know...I didn't find it to be dissappointing overall.
Most of the fights were quick, but I thought that they were all pretty good, with the notable exception of the "finale". LOL
That announcement however, was less than earth shaking.
IMO, even though it's a non-title matchup......it just means that one of the deserving contenders for the WW belt is gonna have to wait at least 6 more months or so, before getting a shot at it. Also means that Hughes might not fight again until Aug/Sept. and could conceivably have only one title defense in all of 06'.
Which in and of itself is kinda lame.

DrumzCT · 01-18-2006, 10:05 PM

The finale was kinda boring. I like Sylvia but grabbing the cage when Silva finally had a TD was lame. I know it's probably reaction and all but that was dissapointing.

As for Bonnars fights, that one's going on Ultimate Submissions for sure. That was the sickest Kimura I've ever seen and the most pain tolerance I've ever seen. The whole night was worth it for that in my opinion. That was amazing.

dagenhamdave · 01-18-2006, 11:14 PM

Not to mention watching Burkman basically ragdoll Fickett.
That opened my eyes to his chances in that division. I think he's going to do pretty well. I had no idea he was that strong watching his fight on TUF2.

JoeRoganismyhero · 01-19-2006, 07:24 AM

Why would the Hughes vs Gracie fight be non-title?

If Hughes is fighting shouldn't the title be on the line?

Or has Gracie already said it's definately a 1 and done deal?

dagenhamdave · 01-19-2006, 10:45 AM

I bet gracie signed a one fight deal but to Matt and the fans title shot or not, the title is really on the line.
When Matt beat Riggs in the non-title shot he said he still considers it for the championship because if Riggs won, who would people think is the champ? Kinda like how people think BJ is really the champ since Hughes lost to him.

kane · 01-19-2006, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dagenhamdave

Not to mention watching Burkman basically ragdoll Fickett.
That opened my eyes to his chances in that division. I think he's going to do pretty well. I had no idea he was that strong watching his fight on TUF2.

burkman is strong but it would have been nice if the master knew how to defend a guilitine. Marvin is also one tough dude himself.

Master Jones · 01-19-2006, 01:40 PM

I enjoyed all of the fights with the exception of the Sylvia fight. After the first round it didn't look like Tim could hardly swing. I'm sure Andre is not sweating his next fight with Tim. I don't see it going much different then the first match up. Burkman is cocky, because he can be. He's one of the top 5 fighters in WW for sure, and he knows it. One other thing, "Its not that the Master doesn't know how to defend a guilitine." It just that Burkman is really that much better at applying it.