Rashad Evans fighting at UFN April 6th - Page 2 - Fight Forum - MMA - UFC - Boxing - K1

Unknown · 01-31-2006, 09:49 PM

He is not a bad boxer either, but I kind of doubt his KO power. He did drop brad but I don't think he has what it takes to finish a lot of people at hw or lhw.

GSPALLTHEWAY · 01-31-2006, 10:01 PM

what an AWFUL season of TUF 2 in the hw division for the UFC... i mean listen to what people are saying, he dropped brad.. big deal! lol... imagine going up against any type of fighter with any skill at all.. i agree unknown he does have SOME potential with boxing, but he just doesnt have the overall potential to be a top level LHW.... even to bonners level IMO

angryjonny · 01-31-2006, 10:28 PM

Man you guys are being pretty hard on a guy who is practically a rookie. GSPalltheway weren't you the one who said everyone has to progress. Rashad has only had what like 5 fights and you are saying he has no potential and will never amount to anything? Rashad will do just fine. He has some work to do but anyone who says that he doesn't have potential is clueless or they just hate him because of that stupid fight on TUF. Lame...

GSPALLTHEWAY · 01-31-2006, 11:29 PM

oh yes, they need a chance to progress... guys like bonner, leben, griffen all can really advance.. diego even... rashad will never amount to anything more then a cote, or any other guy they need as a last second throw in match.... he is in the lower quarter of the lhw division imo, and has the POTENTIAL to be at the lower HALF of the division lol

Master Jones · 02-01-2006, 11:37 AM

Yea, I hope Rashad gets a good beating from somebody. Been looking forward to that for a long time now.

subgenius · 02-01-2006, 03:22 PM

I started out not liking Rashad Evans, but with each fight he has shown a lot of heart. At first the guy did not seem to be really taking MMA and the UFC seriously. But then he seemed to settle in and fight to win like he believed in what he was doing. I think the taste of winning on TV made him really re-think and re-evaluate his life... I bet we see a very different Rashad Evans when he fights next. :sport-smi

WarDawg · 02-01-2006, 07:19 PM

Subgenius m I couldn't have said it better. I didn't care for him after his first fight. But he grew on me as he fought and beat eveyone they put in front of him. He has heart and good skills that needs to be honed. I like to see him do very well. Wardawg

PghPens71 · 02-01-2006, 10:19 PM

i hath no desire to see this young individual fight.

NTNS · 02-02-2006, 01:54 PM

Evans had an easy route all the way through his experience in TUF2 not necessarily because of who he fought, but because of how they fought. In fact, a couple of his opponents didn't fight at all, and they still took him the distance.
Only Brad Imes gave him a little test, but look at what experience Imes had. And Brad had no intensity to finish the job which would have been an easy knock-out for him if he would have just followed up after hurting Evans.
All they're doing is setting up Rashad Evans as a fighter, giving him another opponent that shouldn't be much trouble, building up his record for him - just like has always been the case in the corrupt boxing world - and all just to appeal to the black viewers who have so few fighters of their own to watch. It's good for business to appeal to all the diverse types of people.
Bernard Hopkins used to whine and cry about all the white men (promoters, etc.) abusing boxers. After all, Hopkins stated "Boxing is a black man's sport". Well, unfortunately for Hopkins, MMA has fewer black athletes percentage wise than any other sport in America except hockey.
I want to see Rashad Evans go up against a real heavyweight or light heavyweight and watch what happens. He's way out-classed by many. Wake up, blind ones!
Look how Dana White treated those on the TUF2 season. He didn't want to give Josh Burkman the credit he was due, for example, when he dominated and beat Melvin Guillard fair and square. You could tell he already had his favorites picked out who he hoped to be in the running because when Guillard was sent packing after the first fight and things weren't going Dana's way (the other big mouths and minorities weren't doing to well either), he stepped in and tried to greatly influence the fight picks there after.
He was praising the LOSERS and not giving the winners their dues.
I really hope MMA doesn't end up like every other system in this world... Corrupt and false. The TRUTH will prevail in the end!

geckster7 · 02-02-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by angryjonny

Man you guys are being pretty hard on a guy who is practically a rookie. GSPalltheway weren't you the one who said everyone has to progress. Rashad has only had what like 5 fights and you are saying he has no potential and will never amount to anything? Rashad will do just fine. He has some work to do but anyone who says that he doesn't have potential is clueless or they just hate him because of that stupid fight on TUF. Lame...

I agree with you Johnny. All this hating on Rashad is BS. Say what you will about the guy, but a basically short, relatively underweight, relatively inexperienced guy beat everyone that TUF2 (such as it was) had to offer. He beat taller guys. He beat heavier guys. He beat faster guys, and he beat stronger guys. He should have earned that much of peoples respect. Apparently some on here just read a book's first chapter and close the cover.

This 1st fight hating on him is BS. He screwed up, said as much, and apologized. Then he went out (with every single guy hating him that much more for what he did in fight 1) and beat people in the octagon which is where it counts.

Of course now that I've defended the guy he's going to go out there and lay an egg on my face, but frankly he's earned that right. He took on all comers and won, and won decisively in my opinion.

That's my 2cents

The Phenom · 02-02-2006, 02:53 PM

I agree with Geckster and Johnny. Say what you will about how good Imes is, but that fight was a war with both ment getting some good licks in. Evans has a really good chin and you got to remember he was fighting a dude that was much taller than he was and he still Knocked him out. I'm not going to judge yet what kind of fighter he is going to be, but I am going to judge him on what he has done and what he has done has been pretty impressive. Hoger might be a good test for him. I guess well see.

GYEAH :sport-smi

geckster7 · 02-02-2006, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NTNS

Evans had an easy route all the way through his experience in TUF2 not necessarily because of who he fought, but because of how they fought. In fact, a couple of his opponents didn't fight at all, and they still took him the distance.
Only Brad Imes gave him a little test, but look at what experience Imes had. And Brad had no intensity to finish the job which would have been an easy knock-out for him if he would have just followed up after hurting Evans.
All they're doing is setting up Rashad Evans as a fighter, giving him another opponent that shouldn't be much trouble, building up his record for him - just like has always been the case in the corrupt boxing world - and all just to appeal to the black viewers who have so few fighters of their own to watch. It's good for business to appeal to all the diverse types of people.

Dude I think you really need to re-examine your thinking. I'm not the kinda guy that screams 'racist' at anyone who starts talking about blacks and whites, but you're really close to the line, IMO.

I didn't think Rashad was all that great (but who is compared to the likes of the Franklins, HUghes, GSPs, Coutures, Liddells of the UFC???), but make no mistake - there was no conspiracy. Evans won fair and square, and none of the fights were really even close. He surprised everyone in the UFC, including himself I think.

I think you might try to look at Rashad a little more objectively, and forget about the race card. That's my opinion. You're welcome to your opinion.

SWIBC · 02-02-2006, 03:19 PM

I think we need to see how he matches up with Hogar before we lay down judgement on Rashad of course they should have fed him to a lion but oh well.

GSPALLTHEWAY · 02-02-2006, 03:22 PM

he beat everyone TUF 2 had to offer which was NOTHING!! besides maybe seth they were awful!! brad just started to train and got 2nd?? the whole HW season was a joke and they had 0 talent... hopefully by TUF 4 if they do HW then they will get SOME talent, because all of that was a joke, and so is rashad IMO... he will never break the top 4 in an already weak HW division

Unknown · 02-02-2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by geckster7

Dude I think you really need to re-examine your thinking. I'm not the kinda guy that screams 'racist' at anyone who starts talking about blacks and whites, but you're really close to the line, IMO.

Wow I missed that post. I'm with you on this one geckster. NTNS, you did really cross the line there.

I don't think I'll ever be a big rashad fan, that first fight will leave a sour taste im my mouth for every rashad figh I see from now on. Just like any gonzaga or shaman fight I ever see.

geckster7 · 02-02-2006, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GSPalltheway

he beat everyone TUF 2 had to offer which was NOTHING!! besides maybe seth they were awful!! brad just started to train and got 2nd?? the whole HW season was a joke and they had 0 talent... hopefully by TUF 4 if they do HW then they will get SOME talent, because all of that was a joke, and so is rashad IMO... he will never break the top 4 in an already weak HW division

True, as far as we are all concerned, he beat everyone that was there and collectively they all showed virtually nothing.

That said, most of us thought he was the weakest of the bunch, and yet he still ended up on top. Give him that much is all I'm trying to say.

Will he challenge anyone of merit? Probably not. Then again, nobody gave him a snowballs chance in heck of winning TUF2. Let him fight and judge him then.

GSPALLTHEWAY · 02-02-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by geckster7

True, as far as we are all concerned, he beat everyone that was there and collectively they all showed virtually nothing.

That said, most of us thought he was the weakest of the bunch, and yet he still ended up on top. Give him that much is all I'm trying to say.

Will he challenge anyone of merit? Probably not. Then again, nobody gave him a snowballs chance in heck of winning TUF2. Let him fight and judge him then.

ok fair enough, ill absolutely give him the fact that i never thought he would win in a million years after that first fight.... i was actually routing for him towards the end! im just saying in the big scheme of things he doesnt have a big future, especially at 205 IMO

angryjonny · 02-02-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GSPalltheway

ok fair enough, ill absolutely give him the fact that i never thought he would win in a million years after that first fight.... i was actually routing for him towards the end! im just saying in the big scheme of things he doesnt have a big future, especially at 205 IMO

Well what I am saying is that he could have a future. You could be right though too in saying that he doesn't but we don't know because he is just starting out. It isn't like he is a guy who has been in the game for years and years and was just "undiscovered" or whatever. He does have some skills though and if he sharpens up the rest of his game there is no reason he can't be a mainstay. We'll just have to see how he does for his first 'real' fight in the big show.

angryjonny · 02-02-2006, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NTNS

Evans had an easy route all the way through his experience in TUF2 not necessarily because of who he fought, but because of how they fought. In fact, a couple of his opponents didn't fight at all, and they still took him the distance.
Only Brad Imes gave him a little test, but look at what experience Imes had. And Brad had no intensity to finish the job which would have been an easy knock-out for him if he would have just followed up after hurting Evans.
All they're doing is setting up Rashad Evans as a fighter, giving him another opponent that shouldn't be much trouble, building up his record for him - just like has always been the case in the corrupt boxing world - and all just to appeal to the black viewers who have so few fighters of their own to watch. It's good for business to appeal to all the diverse types of people.
Bernard Hopkins used to whine and cry about all the white men (promoters, etc.) abusing boxers. After all, Hopkins stated "Boxing is a black man's sport". Well, unfortunately for Hopkins, MMA has fewer black athletes percentage wise than any other sport in America except hockey.
I want to see Rashad Evans go up against a real heavyweight or light heavyweight and watch what happens. He's way out-classed by many. Wake up, blind ones!
Look how Dana White treated those on the TUF2 season. He didn't want to give Josh Burkman the credit he was due, for example, when he dominated and beat Melvin Guillard fair and square. You could tell he already had his favorites picked out who he hoped to be in the running because when Guillard was sent packing after the first fight and things weren't going Dana's way (the other big mouths and minorities weren't doing to well either), he stepped in and tried to greatly influence the fight picks there after.
He was praising the LOSERS and not giving the winners their dues.
I really hope MMA doesn't end up like every other system in this world... Corrupt and false. The TRUTH will prevail in the end!

It would be best if you didn't post that kind of crap here. Unintentional or not you did sound like an ignorant racist. Not appreciated here. All other views are though. Just ease up a bit.

Unknown · 02-02-2006, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by angryjonny

Well what I am saying is that he could have a future. You could be right though too in saying that he doesn't but we don't know because he is just starting out. It isn't like he is a guy who has been in the game for years and years and was just "undiscovered" or whatever. He does have some skills though and if he sharpens up the rest of his game there is no reason he can't be a mainstay. We'll just have to see how he does for his first 'real' fight in the big show.

Yeah we will have to see. I think he could win some fights. Between his boxing and his wrestling he could be a good sprawl n brawl fighter. I just don't think he will be finishing many people. But I could be wrong.