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Old 02-10-2006, 06:53 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Only way I see tim winning this fight is if LeBanner showes up and fights like Assuerio
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Old 02-10-2006, 07:40 AM   #22 (permalink)
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you all must be right... in this hypothetical fight that wouldnt happen anytime soon and most likely never, tim would have no chance and its already over... he would get KOed without a doubt so why bother even taking it? especially when he has a title shot in a couple months
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Old 02-10-2006, 07:54 AM   #23 (permalink)
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you all must be right... in this hypothetical fight that wouldnt happen anytime soon and most likely never, tim would have no chance and its already over... he would get KOed without a doubt so why bother even taking it? especially when he has a title shot in a couple months
Cause it's fun to talk about tim getting beat. Or maybe because it's plastered all over MMA weekly.
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Old 02-10-2006, 07:58 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Peopel doubt LeBanner because they never seen LeBanner fight. If a stand up fighter in MMA fought a stand up fighter in K-1, I would put the money on the K-1 guy. But, if the MMA fighter has a ground game, which Tim doesn't, I'd put my money on the MMA guy.

LeBanner via KO.
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Old 02-10-2006, 08:31 AM   #25 (permalink)
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im not doubting him because ive never seen him fight... ive seen a high % of all his fights... you tend to use that as a general excuse to why people may disagree, that they have never seen this or that.... hes an awesome striker (one of the best) with 0 ground experience.. if it stayed up hed win, if it went down (which i think it would) hed lose... it seems so straitfoward... and even more so because tim wouldnt care at all either way since he has a title shot against a far more dangerous opp in AA...
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Old 02-10-2006, 08:43 AM   #26 (permalink)
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How do we know that Tim doesn't have ground skills. Do you think anyone from the Militech camp is without ground skills? He's mainly a striker, but I bet he spends plenty of time on the ground with the Militech camp.
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And Lebanner spends time training with grapling world champions. I really don't think tim would have a big advantage on the ground.
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Old 02-10-2006, 09:17 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Training with MFS does not mean he has good ground. I think Robbie Lawler is evidence of that.
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Old 02-10-2006, 12:03 PM   #29 (permalink)
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im not doubting him because ive never seen him fight... ive seen a high % of all his fights... you tend to use that as a general excuse to why people may disagree, that they have never seen this or that.... hes an awesome striker (one of the best) with 0 ground experience.. if it stayed up hed win, if it went down (which i think it would) hed lose... it seems so straitfoward... and even more so because tim wouldnt care at all either way since he has a title shot against a far more dangerous opp in AA...

as i said before.. LeBanner has a ground game and is working to improve it with Dean Lister.
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LeBanner or as he is starting to be called JLB, has said that he will fight tim in the octagon and has contacted Zuffa and joe silva with the intent to make the fight happen.
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Old 02-11-2006, 03:24 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I am not much impressed with a guy with only four fights calling out a guy with 22 fights. If I were Sylvia, then I would tell Lebanner to go earn some fight time before challenging a veteran. Sylvia is 20-2 with 15 KOs, and this Lebanner guy is 2-1-1 with two KOs. Lebanner was submitted by a 2-4 fighter. He has a draw with Bob Sapp. What makes everyone think that this guy has a chance against Tim Sylvia? He has only ever lost to THE BEST in the UFC -- Mir (before his accident) and AA. Sylvia would KO this Lebanner guy, IMO.
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I am not much impressed with a guy with only four fights calling out a guy with 22 fights. If I were Sylvia, then I would tell Lebanner to go earn some fight time before challenging a veteran. Sylvia is 20-2 with 15 KOs, and this Lebanner guy is 2-1-1 with two KOs. Lebanner was submitted by a 2-4 fighter. He has a draw with Bob Sapp. What makes everyone think that this guy has a chance against Tim Sylvia? He has only ever lost to THE BEST in the UFC -- Mir (before his accident) and AA. Sylvia would KO this Lebanner guy, IMO.
I somewhat agree with you there. This guy is out of his element to challenge a veteran in the game, but on the other hand what better way to make a name for your self by challenging a big time heavyweight in the UFC. A least if he fights and loses he can say he lost to one of the best.
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what gives him that right??? tim is up for a title shot ... if "JLB" wants to do that he can get in line after he proves himself first
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As we have been seeing lately, it's not about who has the right or deserves a fight. It's about how many fans will pay to see it and what fights/fighters can be marketed for bigger $$$$ later down the road.
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I am not much impressed with a guy with only four fights calling out a guy with 22 fights. If I were Sylvia, then I would tell Lebanner to go earn some fight time before challenging a veteran. Sylvia is 20-2 with 15 KOs, and this Lebanner guy is 2-1-1 with two KOs. Lebanner was submitted by a 2-4 fighter. He has a draw with Bob Sapp. What makes everyone think that this guy has a chance against Tim Sylvia? He has only ever lost to THE BEST in the UFC -- Mir (before his accident) and AA. Sylvia would KO this Lebanner guy, IMO.
Lebanner is one of the best strikers out there and also issued a challange to tim in a standard k-1 rules bout. Tim said he would only fight him in the octagon and lebanner said he would. Tim might be able to get something done on the ground but he is really lacking in that department. And standing Lebanner is lightyears ahead of tim. If tim does win it won't be by KO.

Here is the online petition to make the fight happen. The plan is to email a copy out after it gets alot of sigs. Lebanner was very respectfull in challanging tim and tim insulted him. I for one think that that alone says this fight should happen.

Even if you think Tim will win. Pleas sign to help make it happen.

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/jlbversustim
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what gives him that right??? tim is up for a title shot ... if "JLB" wants to do that he can get in line after he proves himself first
I don't think JLB cares weather he fights Tim before or After AA. Because he has commented several times on Tim fighitng AA. I believe that it is his intention to fight tim after he gets his arse handed to him by AA.
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why is everyone so disrepectful towards tim? hes only lost 2 fights i can think of one of which he never gave up in... JLB doesnt deserve to fight tim and i could care less if he does... if he wants to try out for the UFC good luck to him... he can go fight justin eilers or someone first and see how real MMA is... you cant just go challenging some of the best in another realm... otherwise i challenge tim sylvia too!
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Well if Lebanner said to K-1 he wanted to fight lyoto. Next K-1 event he would be fighting lyoto. This isn't about trying out for the UFC or trying to win a title in MMA. Lebanner is already one of the best kickboxers in the world. AD champs and world champion kickboxers don't really need to work through the bottem ranks in MMA to get into the UFC and Pride. They have already earned it in their own sport.

I have always been the first person to support tim when people say he is a nobody. But Lebanner is just that good on his feet that I say that Tim dosn't stand much of a chance.
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sure they do..... what about jeff newton??? he is a world class karate champ... Pride and the UFC brand the BEST fighers in the world at fighting, not just one aspect of it like kickboxing... marvin eastman kinda sucked at mma IMO
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sure they do..... what about jeff newton??? he is a world class karate champ... Pride and the UFC brand the BEST fighers in the world at fighting, not just one aspect of it like kickboxing... marvin eastman kinda sucked at mma IMO
Karate is not a legit fighting sport. it is an art not combat. Lebanner would tear through the lower ranks of MMA. If Lamon Brewster showed up and challanged AA I would expect a fight to be set up some time in the future.

Curz is the definition of one skill and he took it too mir. The only reason he got that shot is because of his wins in the world of grapling.

Lebanner has also been training for years in grapling along with kickboxing. And once you become world class at one thing it is alot easier to become world class at other things.
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