The UFC still paying crap.... - Fight Forum - MMA - UFC - Boxing - K1

Jras0001 · 03-13-2006, 11:07 AM

Looks like the UFC hasnt started paying any better yet. Its sad to see that one champion of a weightclass makes so much more than another, such as chuck compared to rich. chuck made about 250,000 in his last fight and rich only got paid 16K to show and 16K to win....$32,000 dollars! Thats something like 8 times less than chuck. GSP was paid more to fight in this fight than rich was, and so would penn had he won. he still made $25,000.

its just disheartening to see an orginization that takes in as much money and is getting as popular as the UFC turn around and only pay its fighters, the people bringing in the money, what amounts to minimum wage in the industry.

oh, and the payout total for 58 was around 210K dollars where in 57, it was over 600K where chuck and randy alone combined for about 500K.

heres the link for those interested...

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...1718&zoneid=13

marnold · 03-13-2006, 12:14 PM

Wow. Dana should be ashamed of himself. These are great talents that deserve to be paid.

SmashingMachine · 03-13-2006, 12:15 PM

Well, when Franklin gets ticked and goes to PRIDE the UFC won't have anybody but themselves to blame.

somnus · 03-13-2006, 12:32 PM

What the fighters get paid is based on the contracts they negotiate. From what I've heard/read Rich negotiated a 8-9 fight deal with the UFC that pays him more as he gets farther into the deal. When it's time to sign a new contract he'll be making a lot more money.

marnold · 03-13-2006, 12:47 PM

Good info Somnus. Thanks. It would be good if the most charismatic would stay with UFC.

Jras0001 · 03-13-2006, 01:00 PM

ya, i heard he had a 6 fight deal with the ufc but i could be mistaken on that. but ya, thats what i heard...as he progresses in his contract, he gets more money per fight. his fight with nate quarry only paid him 13K to show and 13K to win, so this fight with the crow paid about 6k more for him. thats still less than what the winner of the gsp / penn fight got, and each of them made more to show and more to win.

i think that when his contract is up, the ufc will find itself forking out some serious cash...provided hes still the champ at that time. would suck to see him lose it before the contract is up and see him lose out on so much potential money. i dont see the ufc being able to let him go to pride, hes so charismatic, friendly, and is a huge crowd favorite.

GSPALLTHEWAY · 03-13-2006, 02:47 PM

i am so sick of everyone complaining about fighter salaries.... yet at the same time everyone constantly bitches about the "overpaid" athlete... these guys in the UFC are true warriors, are getting paid a healthy sum to earn a very good living and dont complain much about it... so why do you all care

marnold · 03-13-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GSPalltheway

i am so sick of everyone complaining about fighter salaries.... yet at the same time everyone constantly bitches about the "overpaid" athlete... these guys in the UFC are true warriors, are getting paid a healthy sum to earn a very good living and dont complain much about it... so why do you all care

I agree with the sentiment even if the passion seems a bit emoted. I think they should be paid commensurate to their ability so that they don't have to work another job and can focus on training and being more competitive. I don't care what a great teacher Rich is, I bet he wants to train rather than teach.

Grave · 03-13-2006, 03:15 PM

A shame to hear that such Top-Tier talent and a MW champ at that, Rich Franklin, only makes peanuts. *sigh*

How the hell does Chuck get paid $250,000, and rich only $32,000?

angryjonny · 03-13-2006, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GSPalltheway

i am so sick of everyone complaining about fighter salaries.... yet at the same time everyone constantly bitches about the "overpaid" athlete... these guys in the UFC are true warriors, are getting paid a healthy sum to earn a very good living and dont complain much about it... so why do you all care

I'm sick of people saying they are sick of everyone complaining about fighter salaries. The only guys who are getting paid a "healthy sum" are a very select few. The rest get crap. That's not something that can be argued. There's really no reason to defend them getting horrible pay. I personally care because they are the ones who are providing the entertainment and the reason I am shelling out the cash to see them. So they deserve more than that. Not to be a "real fighter who doesn't care how much they are paid" as the boss says.

somnus · 03-13-2006, 03:37 PM

I'm totally on the "They should be paid more" bandwagon but at the same time the fighters have to honor the contracts they've already signed. If somene like Rich Franklin could renegotiate his current contract then that would be great. But if he can't then he needs to finish it out. If the fighter is worth it; the paydays will be big for their next contract.

Thrash13 · 03-13-2006, 03:51 PM

First off, I would take $96,000 + endorsement contracts to train and fight three times a year. Think about it, that's quite a bit of money. At least it is for a poor Okie selling insurance.

Secondly, Rich is getting paid ok in the UFC, but to see him 8 or 9 times below Chuck Liddell is ridiculous. Not only has Rich been as dominant (pretty close at least), his fights have all been higher quality. Rich Franklin has arguably put on the best fights in the UFC over the past year or so, with the possible exception of GSP.

It's pretty crappy to see him only making $32,000 per fight when others are making much more than that.

But seriously, $100,000 + sponsorship deals is pretty darn good for three fights per year. Sure, the training is grueling, but that's just part of the job as well. The money is still great! It's just not as much as he deserves.

sosomomonono · 03-13-2006, 04:49 PM

Yea man , he signed that contact way before tuf2. He gets money from other sources but until his contacts up, he has to deal with it.

Georges4life · 03-13-2006, 06:04 PM

I think once Franklins deal is done hell resign for a hell of alot more than what he has now, aslo GSP, i think salaries will go up quite a bit once the so called explosion comes.

Anti-Sanchez · 03-13-2006, 06:23 PM

If Dana was smart he'd renegotiate Rich's contract before making him fight another $32,000. Thats a slap in Riches face. He only made $2k more than Nathan Marquart for this fight.

Rich has proven that is a top notch fighter and with the exception of Maybe Dan Henderson he could be the best 185 pound fighter in the world. Show him the money Dana. He's a great ambassedor for the sport and he represents the UFC well. For god sake pay the man.

Jras0001 · 03-13-2006, 06:50 PM

i also think that salaries may go up once there is more competiton in the U.S. for the talent that is out there. the more organizations out there, the better, for the fighters anyway and probably for the fans. it doesnt look like that competition is that far away either...

angryjonny · 03-13-2006, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by somnus

I'm totally on the "They should be paid more" bandwagon but at the same time the fighters have to honor the contracts they've already signed. If somene like Rich Franklin could renegotiate his current contract then that would be great. But if he can't then he needs to finish it out. If the fighter is worth it; the paydays will be big for their next contract.

That's the great thing (for the UFC suits at least) about a monopoly in the US. They can get the guys to sign deals that are extremely ****ty and there's not much else the fighters can do about it except try and get something with Pride because since the UFC pays not much more than the smaller guys the only thing they are fighting for is possibly exposure and hope they can get a fan following so they will be "worth" something to the UFC. Hopefully IFL takes off and this will change in the near future though.

Also remember the fighters aren't even taking home the amount that is released by NSAC. Take out the training, cornermen, manager's cut, etc. and there's not really as much as some of you guys think.

Put it this way. These guys shouldn't have to have part time or even full time jobs for some of them as well as all the training and fights that go along with it.

GSPALLTHEWAY · 03-13-2006, 07:03 PM

does everyone forget about endorsements?? or how about being on the TUF shows... even other pro athletes get paid MUCH more in endorsements then JUST their salary

angryjonny · 03-13-2006, 08:28 PM

Yes their sponsors that they aren't allowed to talk about. Not everyone scores that big deal or is on TUF. That's what I was talking about by hoping that the UFC feels they are worth something. It's not about being a great fighter so much anymore.

SmashingMachine · 03-13-2006, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GSPalltheway

i am so sick of everyone complaining about fighter salaries.... yet at the same time everyone constantly bitches about the "overpaid" athlete... these guys in the UFC are true warriors, are getting paid a healthy sum to earn a very good living and dont complain much about it... so why do you all care

Well, the "overpaid" athletes are the pro-ball players...who make MILLIONS not thousands...and then they bitch because they aren't getting paid enough to play baseball, basketball, or football. IF any pro-athlete deserves to make big bucks it's the MMA guys...not ball players...especially baseball and basketball.