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04-29-2006, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by angryjonny
Well you weren't specific so I didn't know what link you were talking about. And the six figures is if they win and get the bonus from every fight. It also increases with each win. Not sure about the details of when they lose like Forrest and Joe. But I also listen to 4 different radio shows and read many articles every day. I wouldn't be able to find that info but Diego is making a decent salary and he'll be up to six figures probably by his next fight or two if he wins them. I know he made over 20K for the Diaz fight and he'll probably get that much or more for the Allessio fight.
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Yeah, at first I could not find anything -- wrong keywords for searches, I guess. But, now what you are saying makes sense. I wish that they would gather all this data into one place where we could compare PFC, KOTC, K1H, and the UFC to see what contracts look like, how they are implemented, and the pay outs.
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04-29-2006, 06:50 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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diego also missed his last fight..which if he did fight...that would of been around 100,000...6-figures//// in one year
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04-30-2006, 06:59 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Battle Creek MI,
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What a joke
It is a real shame that the whole reason that we buy the ppv is the fighters and they only got 2.43% of the total take from the gate and ppv not even counting sponsers money. That means that dana is putting in his pocket some were in the range of 10 mil per event times 12 events per year plus all the money from spike and fight night events. Thats one hell of salary if you ask me.
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04-30-2006, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by coreyeggleston
It is a real shame that the whole reason that we buy the ppv is the fighters and they only got 2.43% of the total take from the gate and ppv not even counting sponsers money. That means that dana is putting in his pocket some were in the range of 10 mil per event times 12 events per year plus all the money from spike and fight night events. Thats one hell of salary if you ask me.
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no, that doesnt mean that dana is putting all that in his pocket. Zuffa and the UFC are businesses that have overhead and expenses like payrolls, utilities, insurance, and many other things. just because the fighters arent making what they should doesnt automatically mean that dana is making the 120 million + plus that you mentioned.
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04-30-2006, 09:47 AM
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You know I will be the first to say that I think the fighters should be getting paid more. But what I think everybody also forgets that Zuffa does have a whole lot of cost to them. I see a lot of post with the ratio between what they saw on ppv and what the fighters made. I bet Zuffa wishes it was that easy and if anyone has owned a business can understand that. Has anybody ever ran a promotion like UFC does, commercials, advertising on the net, to rent out the venue, payroll, electric just in one night for that place, all the smoke and fire you see, these are just a few examples of cost and it doesnt even touch the other amount they have. I am not calling anybody out for their opinion or anything but people make it sound like Dana or Zuffa is just paying the fighters and the rest just goes into his pocket. If this was the case you would be seeing Dana on Forbes magazine for one of the richest people in the world real fast and trust me you wont be. Dana makes a lot of money but dont you think that he should? Look at what he has done for the UFC and yes the fighters make the UFC, but who do you think brought them there. Again, I am all for the fighters getting paid, they work their butt off everyday to be the best and people pay to watch them but not enough people to pay all of them like the NFL, NBA. They just sold out their biggest crowed which I believe was 18k which is amazing. NFL sells out crowds of 40k
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04-30-2006, 10:14 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Kansas City MO
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zuffa pays alot on the fighters medical if you put together all of the overhead I think we all would be shocked on how much zuffa pockets
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04-30-2006, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidresults
You know I will be the first to say that I think the fighters should be getting paid more. But what I think everybody also forgets that Zuffa does have a whole lot of cost to them. I see a lot of post with the ratio between what they saw on ppv and what the fighters made. I bet Zuffa wishes it was that easy and if anyone has owned a business can understand that. Has anybody ever ran a promotion like UFC does, commercials, advertising on the net, to rent out the venue, payroll, electric just in one night for that place, all the smoke and fire you see, these are just a few examples of cost and it doesnt even touch the other amount they have. I am not calling anybody out for their opinion or anything but people make it sound like Dana or Zuffa is just paying the fighters and the rest just goes into his pocket. If this was the case you would be seeing Dana on Forbes magazine for one of the richest people in the world real fast and trust me you wont be. Dana makes a lot of money but dont you think that he should? Look at what he has done for the UFC and yes the fighters make the UFC, but who do you think brought them there. Again, I am all for the fighters getting paid, they work their butt off everyday to be the best and people pay to watch them but not enough people to pay all of them like the NFL, NBA. They just sold out their biggest crowed which I believe was 18k which is amazing. NFL sells out crowds of 40k
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I think the smallest NFL stadium is about 60K actually.
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04-30-2006, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidresults
You know I will be the first to say that I think the fighters should be getting paid more. But what I think everybody also forgets that Zuffa does have a whole lot of cost to them. I see a lot of post with the ratio between what they saw on ppv and what the fighters made. I bet Zuffa wishes it was that easy and if anyone has owned a business can understand that. Has anybody ever ran a promotion like UFC does, commercials, advertising on the net, to rent out the venue, payroll, electric just in one night for that place, all the smoke and fire you see, these are just a few examples of cost and it doesnt even touch the other amount they have. I am not calling anybody out for their opinion or anything but people make it sound like Dana or Zuffa is just paying the fighters and the rest just goes into his pocket. If this was the case you would be seeing Dana on Forbes magazine for one of the richest people in the world real fast and trust me you wont be. Dana makes a lot of money but dont you think that he should? Look at what he has done for the UFC and yes the fighters make the UFC, but who do you think brought them there. Again, I am all for the fighters getting paid, they work their butt off everyday to be the best and people pay to watch them but not enough people to pay all of them like the NFL, NBA. They just sold out their biggest crowed which I believe was 18k which is amazing. NFL sells out crowds of 40k
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Also, look at the media coverage and support the sports you mentioned have behind them. Untill recently, cable television wouldnt touch the UFC or any mma event with a ten foot pole. Also, the MMA organizations have had an uphill battle with all the various state's athletic / sports commissions with being allowed to hold events. Id be willing to make a hefty wager that should the mma community and the UFC and PFC and all the others get the backing and support of the various media outlets that the NFL and NBA and so on have enjoyed for so long, then they would be selling out much larger venues with no problem. Just look at some of the arenas and stadiums that boxing events have sold out in the past and that is a taste of what the MMA community could do.
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04-30-2006, 09:57 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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You cant sell more tickets if there are none left
How can you sell 60k tickets when there is only 18k seats they will never reach the status of boxing if they dont start going to other cities. Not just las v. Cali. is a start but far from country wide. I also noticed that front row seats went from 350 to 400 in vegas to 1500 in cali. thats to much.
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04-30-2006, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by coreyeggleston
How can you sell 60k tickets when there is only 18k seats they will never reach the status of boxing if they dont start going to other cities. Not just las v. Cali. is a start but far from country wide. I also noticed that front row seats went from 350 to 400 in vegas to 1500 in cali. thats to much.
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Well, that price is only too much when you have empty front row seats and people arent willing to pay the price. As far as I've seen, they haven't had either problem yet.
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05-01-2006, 12:28 PM
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I gave up fighting
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Originally Posted by GSPalltheway
yep same thing everytime... i care about he UFC spending the big bucks to bring in the big names.... let all the smaller fighters go to the IFL, because when they win and get good, the UFC will pay them what they want... The ufc is now using the TUFS to develope fighters.. as long as they spend alot to get the good guys into the UFC and keep them then thats fine with me... Let josh rafferty go fight the other rejects in the IFL
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why do you keep bashing on the IFL? the IFL is the first promotion that puts the fighters best interests first. it offers a salary number one, so fighters can actually train all year instead of trying to train and hold a regular job. what is wrong with that? also the IFL has a more legitimate system of setting up fights. its based on a season so you have an exact idea of when two fighters are going to fight. its not up to a matchmaker. the IFL also has the backing of 4 MMA legends in Miltech, Rutten, Smith and Gracie. personally if i was an up and coming fighter and had to choose between the uncertainly of the UFC where i might get one fight for $4000 or a contract with the IFL with a salary and guaranteed fights i know where i'd go. the IFL may not steal the best talent from the UFC but it could very well take all the young talent away. the IFL is how MMA should have begun in 1993.
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