i know everyones about to whine about how the UFC doesnt pay, blah blah blah....
but how about the refs... i wonder how they get by??
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...=2039&zoneid=2
The California Athletic Commission finally made the UFC 59 numbers public from the show in Anaheim. All figures are courtesy of the California State Athletic Commission.
Tito Ortiz was the highest paid fighter on the card from UFC 59 and former UFC Champ Andrei Arlovski was second. Here is the breakdown WITHOUT win bonuses.
Tito Ortiz - $200,000
Andrei Arlovski - $90,000
Tim Sylvia - $45,000
Evan Tanner - $20,000
Forrest Griffin - $16,000
Nick Diaz - $10,000
Sean Sherk - $8,000
Karo Parisyan - $8,000
David Terrell - $6,000
Justin Levens - $5,000
Marcio Cruz - $5,000
Jeff Monson - $5,000
Nick Thompson - $5,000
Jason Lambert - $4,000
Thiago Alves - $4,000
Scott Smith - $3,000
Derrick Noble - $3,000
Terry Martin - $2,000
Total Fighter Payout Without Bonuses : $439,000
All referees - $1,200 each
CSAC doctors - $600-800 each
CSAC judges - $1,000 each
i know everyones about to whine about how the UFC doesnt pay, blah blah blah....
but how about the refs... i wonder how they get by??
Awesome insight GSPalltheway! I know that upsets you that some people actually think the fighters get dicked over but how can you argue it? 439K? That's crazy. The PPV prices keep going up and the total fight purse keeps going down. I gotta give it to Zuffa they know what they are doing. I just hope they don't saturate the market but it seems that is going to happen sooner than I thought.
Well now the UFC is making LOTS of money. This is the UFC's biggest year.
There was GSP vs BJ, Franklin vs Loiseau, Tito vs Forrest, Gracie vs Hughes and many more to come including Shamrock vs Tito 2. If the UFC is going to go mainstream like they predict then they should definately have enough money to pay there fighters more. At this rate UFC will be bigger and may pay more the Pride. Just not today.
Way of the intercepting fist...
Well let's hope that's the case. That would be good. I don't know that it will be though. They aren't going to change their ways when the fighters are signing the contracts. Just because a small amount of people don't like it doesn't mean it will change anything. Only the fighters can change it really, they don't really have a choice though because with the UFC getting close to a monopoly on the US market they don't have that much choice. Hopefully IFL, WFA, Strikefoce, etc. can help that situation.Originally Posted by thecreewarrior
awesome incite angryjohnny! your sarcasm is always right there!
zuffa does know exactly what they are doing. thats why they are rich and running a company and why you are monday morning QB on the internet
They have other jobs and ref other events. They're not like fighters where they have to train 8 hours a day for that fight, making it difficult to hold another job, or where they can't participate in one show and then another the next night because there's a good chance of injuries occurring.Originally Posted by GSPalltheway
Hahaha. Good one.Originally Posted by GSPalltheway
Still you haven't provided anything relevant to the conversation except being butt hurt that I replied to your comment. What does me being a "monday morning QB on the internet" have anything to do with this? Oh wait I know you are being a keyboard warrior but accusing me of that because I am having a discussion while you whine. Good call buddy.
you are the ultiment keyboard warrior... i never responed to your posts, i just do after you tell me how wrong every single one of my posts was... i will never have more knowledge then you about this because i dont dedicate my life to this site or general mma knowledge that obviously hasnt done much for you... my point on the monday morning QB was that its easy to wait till after the fact then critisize it... and once again my point will be that Zuffa is doing great and besides tito i havent really heard anyone complain to the point where they would rather goto pride...
my contribution to this conversation was commenting on the refs salaries, which i got a reply to which i thank mepersoner for... just seems like they dont make great livings with that being their salary for a MAJOR event like the ufc...
Exactly...guys like Herb Dean are everywhere! In some cases Refs make more than the fighters!Originally Posted by mepersoner
2008 March Madness Contest--2nd place
UFC 93 Prediction Contest Champion!
Okay to prevent from turning ridiculous which is the direction its heading with your response. I like this place so I don't want to get banned. I don't even know how to respond to you because you are trying to make it sound like a bad thing that I have a passion for the sport.Originally Posted by GSPalltheway
You are a casual fan, that's cool. Some people refer to them as TUF n00bs but I don't because I usually respect anyones opinions. I know I know, let me guess you have been watching since 1993 and you have seen and own every event that has ever existed blah blah blah. I don't care about that stuff but I'm sure I'll hear it anyway. The point is that if you are bothered by someone disagreeing with you, why do you post here?
Like I told you before. If I disagree with something I will hit the quote button and tell you. You do realize that is the entire point of this place. Anyway that's all. Feel free to respond but I won't because I don't want to continue the stupid argument, unless you want to actually discuss something without whining about how I disagree with you. You can get your last words in if you want.
And for future reference, just so you are prepared. If you say something that I disagree with or I think is incorrect I'll let you know. Just a warning so you don't get all upset with me.
Just so I can know. Why is it that you call me a keyboard warrior? Do you even know what that means? I don't insult anyone here, even people like you.
people like me?? i can just write anything and youll waste a good deal of your life putting 10x the amount of wording into it.. thats good enough for me..
anyways i am a casual fan besides practicing myself... i do not look up what the king of the cage #8 contender had for dinner 8 weeks ago.. its fun to watch and ill say what i want...
i think if you fight you know what your getting into, the salaries havent dropped dramatically... if they arent happy with it, dont fight in the UFC.. that wont happen though
How the hell does ortiz make $200,000 and the rest have to settle for $90,000 and below?
because ortiz is a major reason why alot of the people went there and or bought the PPV.... AA isnt a huge draw, or guys like pe de pano.. i know i bought the PPV to see titos return..
Alot of the KOTC guys get a few hundred to fight while the same refs get $1000 for the event. So the UFC is still a raise to these guys. They know what they are getting into when they sign the contract. We'll see what happens though when PRIDE hits the US!
i dunno... while pride around more will be good to see, its so unknown and poorly marketed in the US... alot of people i know that are just getting into MMA dont even know who fedor is or what pride is... they have the ammo to be good in the US but have a long long way to go with the marketing
I wouldn't be surprised if the refs all had other jobs, too. If you think Herb Dean might ref 5 events in a month at $1200 each, that's six grand. Six grand for five nights' work. Then throw in getting paid for a couple of personal appearances, possibly bringing in a grand a pop (could be way more, I have no idea), and we're up to eight grand for seven days' work. There's still three weeks in there to drive a cab or do event security or maybe Big John McCarthy is a lawyer, for all I know. Reffing can be a very lucrative way to moonlight from your other job.
I don't know what Herb does but John McCarthy is a police officer and I've heard him say before that a lot of the refs have other jobs just like some of the fighters have to do. But it's not like they have to train 5 or 6 days out of the week two times a day. So I think it sounds like they have it pretty good too.Originally Posted by sitnspin
It's hard to believe Ortiz got $200k for this fight without his win bonus.
He isn't even a champ right now.
Griffin got $16k for the same fight?
I haven't seen anyone else in UFC get anywhere near $200k - but I bet they will now.
If you were Lidell or Hughes or Franklin would you get in the ring for less than $200k?
If I was any of those guys I'd probably fight for a lot less because I'd be so AWESOME that it would be a joy just to destroy guys in front of the whole world.
Oh -- and I also forgot to mention that Tito's apparently been telling Zuffa that he wants $300,000 for his next fight (Shamrock). Don't be surprised if Dana plays hardball with him again and lets him walk, and the fight goes back to Forrest.