Karo vs. Diego official

marnold · 06-04-2006, 12:48 PM

Hughes and GSP are competing at a higher level than Diego. I think Diego needs another 4 fights, atleast, before he's ready for these juggernauts. You've gotta give Diego respect if he beats Parisysan. Somehow Paris Hilton will work her way into the limelight due to proximity of name with Parisyan or an announcer will use this as a lame topical introduction.

two_guns_blazing · 06-04-2006, 01:44 PM

For the longest time, I remember MMAWeekly having their Rumors section say that Karo and Penn were fighting next, at either 61 or 62. That was a match to look forward to. I'm not a Diego hater, I'm actually a level below nut-hugger, but I'm having a real hard time seeing Deigo pull this one out. Maybe it was the Alessio fight, but he just did not look good. It's almost as if he took a step back. After having his takedowns being stuffed with ease, I wonder if that will play with Diego's mind a bit. A win is a win, but if my next fight was against Karo, I'd want to look a little better than that.

subgenius · 06-04-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by two_guns_blazing

For the longest time, I remember MMAWeekly having their Rumors section say that Karo and Penn were fighting next, at either 61 or 62. That was a match to look forward to. I'm not a Diego hater, I'm actually a level below nut-hugger, but I'm having a real hard time seeing Deigo pull this one out. Maybe it was the Alessio fight, but he just did not look good. It's almost as if he took a step back. After having his takedowns being stuffed with ease, I wonder if that will play with Diego's mind a bit. A win is a win, but if my next fight was against Karo, I'd want to look a little better than that.

Alessio went striker on Sanchez, and he decided to avoid Sanchez for the most part (outside of jabs). Alessio wanted a KO win, I think...

I highly doubt that Karo Parisyan will try that. Karo has absolutely zero KO's. He has nine submission wins and six decision wins. I see this match as closer to the Diaz-Sanchez style of fighting. Like Rogan said about the Diaz-Sanchez match, "They look like two lizards rolling around." I see this ending on the ground in favor of Karo and his super-elbows, or a submission for Sanchez.

PghPens71 · 06-04-2006, 02:56 PM

HURRAY!!
Diego is reallylosing this time... as in being STOPPED.

Snow Patrol · 06-04-2006, 03:32 PM

Yup... Karo should take this one and be next in line after GSP/Hughes 2. They may give Karo Penn if he wins to decide who gets the title shot though.

thecreewarrior · 06-04-2006, 03:56 PM

Karo's judo is awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AIBQ...aro%20parisyan

Jenkins83 · 06-04-2006, 04:22 PM

If Sanchez manages to beat Karo do you think they would give Sanchez a title shot against the winner of Hughes/GSP or do you think they would wait longer?

ufc-Joseph-Bower-ufc · 06-04-2006, 04:37 PM

I dont think Sanchez will beat The heat but who ever win I would like to see fight BJ Pen then get a tital shot. I just think Karo is too much for the Nightmare. If he fights like he did the last time he will be KOed and if it goes to the ground they both have great ground games but Karo is just to good.

I think It will be KO or sub for Karo.

If Sanchez wins I will eat all my words about him not being that good.

subgenius · 06-04-2006, 04:51 PM

As much as I love GSP, I still think that Karo Parisyan deserves his title shot ASAP -- even before GSP. But, the UFC has already screwed up the batting order with BJ Penn in the mix, Royce Gracie, and the fact that Karo was injured last November and could not fight Hughes. It seems like Karo is getting punnished for being injured. The guy was training hard for Hughes.

At any rate, I doubt you will see Karo KO Sanchez. That is just not the kind of fighter that Karo is -- he has zero KO's on his record. I see a submission or elbow GnP win as far more likely for Karo in this fight.

And, Karo Parisyan fights for more than money or honor or even just for sport. He dedicated almost all of his past matches to the suffering refugees in his native country of Armenian. Here is short write-up on The Heat:

Karo Parisyan is an Armenian Mixed Martial Arts fighter. His fighting style is primarily Judo but has been modified to fight without the use of a Judogi. His current professional MMA record is 23-3-0 with 9 of his wins coming by way of submission. Karo is currently fighting out of North Hollywood, California.

Born in Yerevan, Armenia, August 28, 1982, Karo’s parents opted to migrate to America for a better life when Karo was six years old. Karo enjoys America, but can remember his early life in Armenia before settling in Hollywood, California, where he has lived for the past fourteen years. Karo’s father introduced Karo to Judo, a sport which he excelled at from an early age. Parisyan then became involved in grappling, which he regarded as being an easy transition from judo. Karo is considered by many to be the first UFC fighter to have successfully adapted his judo style to the Octagon. Karo is a dedicated athlete. His workout schedules do include weights, but he eases off from the lifting prior to competition. Karo’s typical sessions see him training for approximately three hours, five days a week. Parisyan now boasts an 23-3 MMA record. But with six Junior National belts to his credit, Karo’s true love has remained Judo. Karo competed in Olympic trials for 2004.

Parisyan made his UFC debut on 9/23/03, his current UFC record is 5-1. Parisyan's next fight is rumored to take place on August 17th on Ultimate Fight Night 6 on Spike TV against Diego Sanchez.

Thrash13 · 06-05-2006, 12:59 PM

Well, I skimmed through all the pages, but here is what I have to say.

First, BJ doesn't deserve the next title shot. The winner of Sanchez/Parysan deserves that distinction. I have all the respect in the world for BJ Penn, but his loss only set him back a little. He definitely doesn't deserve a title shot right now, regardless of what he has done in the past.

Second, I agree with Sub that this could be the fight of the year. I think it will be a lot like Diaz/Sanchez, which was my favorite fight of last year. It's going to be a ground war, and I really feel Karo will come out on top. I think it will end up being a unanimous decision victory.

Lastly, anyone who is underestimating Diego isn't thinking straight. He has had one sub-par fight, and that was his most recent one against John Alessio. I wasn't impressed with the performance, and neither was anyone else. However, don't let that fool you. Diego will come ready to battle against Karo, I guarantee it.

Karo won't be overlooking Diego for that reason. Both guys want to win, and both guys need a win in order to get a title shot. I believe we will see the most focused Karo and the most focused Diego for this one.

I'm definitely excited for this one.

And after BJ Penn defeats a couple guys, then he can get his shot.

ElectricEVO · 06-05-2006, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrash13

Well, I skimmed through all the pages, but here is what I have to say.

First, BJ doesn't deserve the next title shot. The winner of Sanchez/Parysan deserves that distinction. I have all the respect in the world for BJ Penn, but his loss only set him back a little. He definitely doesn't deserve a title shot right now, regardless of what he has done in the past.

Second, I agree with Sub that this could be the fight of the year. I think it will be a lot like Diaz/Sanchez, which was my favorite fight of last year. It's going to be a ground war, and I really feel Karo will come out on top. I think it will end up being a unanimous decision victory.

Lastly, anyone who is underestimating Diego isn't thinking straight. He has had one sub-par fight, and that was his most recent one against John Alessio. I wasn't impressed with the performance, and neither was anyone else. However, don't let that fool you. Diego will come ready to battle against Karo, I guarantee it.

Karo won't be overlooking Diego for that reason. Both guys want to win, and both guys need a win in order to get a title shot. I believe we will see the most focused Karo and the most focused Diego for this one.

I'm definitely excited for this one.

And after BJ Penn defeats a couple guys, then he can get his shot.

+1.

I cant wait to see this fight, I actually wish it was in July so we dont have to wait all damn summer.

I think Karo is the perfect opponent for Sanchez at this time. This will be a true test. If Sanchez won, I think it would mean he is really for real and the last fight was just a fluke. If Karo wins, it will show that he truly deserves the title shot and Sanchez needs to start working a lot harder!

Bomber · 06-06-2006, 04:01 PM

I loved watching Sanchez/Diaz. What an incredible ground game; take-down, reverse, reverse the reverse, it was an amazing fight. I actually thought the decision should have gone the other way, but that seems to happen a lot.

I'm really looking forward to Sanchez/Parysian. I think Karo will win and get the title shot he deserves (Unfortunately for Karo I think the title shot will be against GSP

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sitnspin · 06-06-2006, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bomber

I loved watching Sanchez/Diaz. What an incredible ground game; take-down, reverse, reverse the reverse, it was an amazing fight. I actually thought the decision should have gone the other way, but that seems to happen a lot.

I'm really looking forward to Sanchez/Parysian. I think Karo will win and get the title shot he deserves (Unfortunately for Karo I think the title shot will be against GSP

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That's the crazy thing. As dominant as Matt Hughes is, a lot of people expect GSP to beat him. Once GSP has the belt, who's supposed to take it from him? He already beat BJ, he will have beaten Hughes, and after that, name me the guy in the WW division who stands a good chance of beating Georges St-Pierre.

Bomber · 06-06-2006, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sitnspin

Once GSP has the belt, who's supposed to take it from him? He already beat BJ, he will have beaten Hughes, and after that, name me the guy in the WW division who stands a good chance of beating Georges St-Pierre.

Parysian should get a title shot first, then the obligatory rubber match with Hughes. Considering how long it will take to get past those bouts there will probably be a clear contender by then.

dagenhamdave · 06-06-2006, 07:19 PM

I agree with a lot of what's being said here. BJ doesn't get a shot until putting some wins together like GSP had to do when he lost to Hughes. Karo is deserving but I like the Sanchez fight and see it going to Karo, I think he has bit too much experience for Diego at this point in Diego's career.

I think the winner of the Karo/Sanchez fight should get the loser of the Hughes/GSP fight for #1 contender status.

I think Penn should fight a couple of lower - mid tier guys before fighting for #1 contender status. Maybe Penn could fight Riggs if Riggs is serious about going back down to 170 since they are both coming off loses. Or maybe they can give the winner of TUF 4 170 to Penn first.

Bomber · 06-07-2006, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dagenhamdave

I think the winner of the Karo/Sanchez fight should get the loser of the Hughes/GSP fight for #1 contender status.

I think Penn should fight a couple of lower - mid tier guys before fighting for #1 contender status.

That's not how I see it. Karo has worked his way to a title shot and, assuming he beats Sanchez, should have his title shot next.

If Hughes were to lose to GSP, then Hughes/Penn would command a lot of interest. The UFC wants to hang onto Penn, so I think he'll be fighting for #1 contention, i.e. top-ranked guys, not Riggs caliber guys.

subgenius · 06-07-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bomber

That's not how I see it. Karo has worked his way to a title shot and, assuming he beats Sanchez, should have his title shot next.

If Hughes were to lose to GSP, then Hughes/Penn would command a lot of interest. The UFC wants to hang onto Penn, so I think he'll be fighting for #1 contention, i.e. top-ranked guys, not Riggs caliber guys.

I agree that Karo Parisyan deserves his title shot. He should not even have to fight Sanchez. Karo proved himself already.

BJ Penn?

I dislike Penn as much as most people seem to dislike Sanchez. I lost all respect for him when he beat Hughes and then forced the UFC to strip the title from him because Penn went to fight Ludwig in K-1 Heroes (against the UFC contract regarding exclusivity for champions). THEN, Penn brings a court case against the UFC. He tried to have an injuction placed on the WW title to prevent it from be awarded or defended by a new champion.

If that was not enough, he wore the WW belt to his match with GSP as well as a t-shirt saying that he was the champ. Again, he took it another step too far and claimed that he though he won the fight with GSP. Well, he lost. And, a true MMA sportsman would have handed that belt over to GSP and simply accepted defeat gracefully...

And, the eye poke... Well, I won't go there.

GSP has his shot. Karo was injured last November. Riggs got the shot instead (even though he failed to make weight and lost the shot). It seems like Karo is being punnished for being injured. As much as I like Sanchez, I think that Karo will win and get the shot he deserves.

Master Jones · 06-07-2006, 10:23 AM

B.J., get real............

Karo all the way, Sanchez is going down.

sitnspin · 06-07-2006, 10:48 AM

I'd be hard pressed to put all my points on either of them, and that's because I respect them both as fighters. I'll have to wait and see some pre-fight interviews. I read a really good members-only article by Couture over on Sherdog, talking about how you can tell a guy's confidence-level by the way he talks in interviews and by his body language. One of the best examples is when a fighter in an interview focuses more on what the other guy is going to try to do, as opposed to what he himself is GOING to do.

That might have sounded confusing. For example:

"I'm going to knock him out." That's a confident fighter who knows he can win.

"He can't knock me out." That's a guy who's worried.

It's the difference between, "I'll be able to submit him inside of two rounds" and "He won't be able to submit me. I'm good enough to neutralize his ground game."

Since I read the article, it's something I listen for in interviews. Both Matt and Royce said some stuff that implied they weren't 100% confident, which was probably a fair assessment leading up to the fight. Matt knew how slick Royce was and he knew he'd been caught in submissions before, so it was probably on his mind during the interviews.