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rhtufts · 06-07-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by thecreewarrior

Karo's judo is awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AIBQ...aro%20parisyan

It was after that fight that I joined Judo. I was looking into BJJ before that but Karo changed my mind.

Love watching that guy fight.

GSPALLTHEWAY · 06-07-2006, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sitnspin

That's the crazy thing. As dominant as Matt Hughes is, a lot of people expect GSP to beat him. Once GSP has the belt, who's supposed to take it from him? He already beat BJ, he will have beaten Hughes, and after that, name me the guy in the WW division who stands a good chance of beating Georges St-Pierre.

ill name two.... BJ penn and matt hughes...
and im obviously a GSP fan... all 3 of those guys will trade back and forth till the sun goes down... karo could take a couple here and there too i think..

sitnspin · 06-07-2006, 10:12 PM

It'll be really disappointing if GSP wins the belt and then loses it back to Hughes in their rematch. I'd like to see Georges be every bit as dominant as Matt has been.

thecreewarrior · 06-07-2006, 10:48 PM

GSP has beeing pretty dominent. He's beat Karo, Sherk, Miller, Penn and so on. I think he's gonna win the belt and be just as dominent at Hughes. Then agian there is always Penn, Karo and Deigo creeping up...

GSPALLTHEWAY · 06-07-2006, 11:40 PM

knowing the UFC, you know if matt loses he will get an overly fast rematch i think.. there are amazing guys out there for sure though too.... BJ really should get the loser of that match, then the winner of that should get a title shot... in the meantime give the karo diego winner a shot so the title holder doesnt have to constantly get barraged

MillerLite · 07-29-2006, 04:53 AM

This is a great match up, will be exciting for the whole 3 rounds, going to the decision. Karo is superb with judo throws, along with hay makers. Diego is relentless with grappling/jujitsu moves and techniques, along with brutal g & p. Both not afraid to engage. Might turn out to be the fight of the year for UFC. Winner then should take on BJ, and should beat BJ with little problem. Then train some more for standup skills and quickness, then take on GSP. Train some more for weight lifting / power and small weaknesses, then finally take on the man, Matt Hughes. For the Karo / Diego fight, should be back and forth, each man will have his moments, since either one could TO / TKO the other, Diego will win decision with g & p.

bayouboy · 07-29-2006, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MillerLite

This is a great match up, will be exciting for the whole 3 rounds, going to the decision. Karo is superb with judo throws, along with hay makers. Diego is relentless with grappling/jujitsu moves and techniques, along with brutal g & p. Both not afraid to engage. Might turn out to be the fight of the year for UFC. Winner then should take on BJ, and should beat BJ with little problem. Then train some more for standup skills and quickness, then take on GSP. Train some more for weight lifting / power and small weaknesses, then finally take on the man, Matt Hughes. For the Karo / Diego fight, should be back and forth, each man will have his moments, since either one could TO / TKO the other, Diego will win decision with g & p.

GSPALLTHEWAY · 07-29-2006, 11:10 AM

lol yea.. BJ would be favored against either of them... also would be a great fight just like this one... and also assuming GSP beats hughes (which will be the fight of the decade)

subgenius · 07-29-2006, 11:27 AM

BJ Penn is NOT the gateway to GSP and Matt Hughes. The winner of Sánchez-Parisyan will NOT have to fight BJ Penn. I believe that Sánchez and Parisyan would beat BJ Penn, and it would be easy. Yeah, I think that. Mostly because I have never been especially impressed with BJ Penn. He can fight, but (IMO) he is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. He makes bad decisions all the time in MMA. He would have been totally owned by GSP had Penn not poked GSP in the eye. BJ Penn is likely the most over-rated MMA fighter ever.

L0cusT · 07-29-2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by subgenius

BJ Penn is NOT the gateway to GSP and Matt Hughes. The winner of Sánchez-Parisyan will NOT have to fight BJ Penn. I believe that Sánchez and Parisyan would beat BJ Penn, and it would be easy. Yeah, I think that. Mostly because I have never been especially impressed with BJ Penn. He can fight, but (IMO) he is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. He makes bad decisions all the time in MMA. He would have been totally owned by GSP had Penn not poked GSP in the eye. BJ Penn is likely the most over-rated MMA fighter ever.

i agree with you, bj penn is really over rated...but if this guy comes to a fight in shape and well prepared then watch out! i just think he doesnt deserve a big fight right now in the ufc...i can remember when he said " you may see me walk around with some bricks " before his fight with gsp but thats not what i saw ! he was fat

GSPALLTHEWAY · 07-29-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by subgenius

BJ Penn is NOT the gateway to GSP and Matt Hughes. The winner of Sánchez-Parisyan will NOT have to fight BJ Penn. I believe that Sánchez and Parisyan would beat BJ Penn, and it would be easy. Yeah, I think that. Mostly because I have never been especially impressed with BJ Penn. He can fight, but (IMO) he is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. He makes bad decisions all the time in MMA. He would have been totally owned by GSP had Penn not poked GSP in the eye. BJ Penn is likely the most over-rated MMA fighter ever.

i disagree.... i think the winner of the karo\diego fight is going to be that TBA vs BJ penn with the winner getting a title shot... i feel like its clearly set up like this, and im fine with that personally, makes alot of sense

subgenius · 07-29-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GSPalltheway

i disagree.... i think the winner of the karo\diego fight is going to be that TBA vs BJ penn with the winner getting a title shot... i feel like its clearly set up like this, and im fine with that personally, makes alot of sense

BJ Penn lost his chance at a title shot. He will not get it back until he wins at least two or three tough matches. Besides, I think that BJ Penn will drop to LW and never see any WW fights in the UFC for a long tme. It would be an insult to Karo or Sánchez to have to fight BJ Penn for a title shot.

Profane · 07-29-2006, 11:22 PM

i half agree with what alot of people said in this thread. If Karo beats Sanchez i think he should get the next crack at the title thats only fair. why should this guy have to fight two to three more times he's already proven he deserves a title shot.

if Diego wins having him fight for the title would be an okay idea i am a huge Sanchez fan so i would love to see him fight for the belt BUT i think if he beats Karo he should have to fight Penn and the winner of that gets the title shot

also i think its only fair for Penn to fight a fight before he gets a title shot. the only way i see him getting the next crack at the belt is if Hughes wins agianst GSP and Diego wins agianst Karo. then i'd have Diego fight GSP and Penn fight Hughes in the rematch.

i think the WW division is pretty stacked right now. there are to me 5 guys who are head and shoulders above all the other WW's all the aformentioned and i think 3 of those. Penn,GSp, and Hughes are shoulders above Karo and Sanchez. Dana needs to string together around 10 fights with these 5 guys highlighted in them including all the title defenses and rematch's. there's no need to even drag any other WW in there mix right now. you have a soild year and a half of potential fights that would sell huge PPV's between these 5 guys alone.

PghPens71 · 07-30-2006, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by angryjonny

According to Diego's website.
While it's rumored that BJ Penn believes he should get the first title shot against the winner of this fall's battle between Matt Hughes and Georges St. Pierre for the UFC Welterweight Title, one could certainly make the case that the winner of the Parisyan vs. Sanchez fight should receive that distinction instead.[/b]

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...2172&zoneid=13

BJ v. Hughes II -- Merry Christmas guys.

PghPens71 · 07-30-2006, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by angryjonny

While it's rumored that BJ Penn believes he should get the first title shot against the winner of this fall's battle between Matt Hughes and Georges St. Pierre for the UFC Welterweight Title, one could certainly make the case that the winner of the Parisyan vs. Sanchez fight should receive that distinction instead.[/b]

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BJ v. Hughes II -- Merry Christmas guys.

subgenius · 07-30-2006, 10:33 AM

As the rumor mill turns. BJ Penn lost to GSP. That match was for a title shot. Penn lost his title shot. He will not be given one again for quite some time.

Bomber · 07-30-2006, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by subgenius

Penn lost his title shot. He will not be given one again for quite some time.

I wouldn't bet on that. The UFC likes to arrange fights that people want to see, and people definitely want to see Penn vs Hughes. Now that Penn has lost to GSP people want to see that again too, to see if Penn will be in better condition this time, and how that would affect the fight. You don't think Penn is one of the greatest pound for pound fighters ever, but most people disagree. Besides I'd be surprised if Penn's contract doesn't include a title shot.

DrumzCT · 07-30-2006, 10:00 PM

Well Quarry certainly didn't earn his title shot so the UFC will definitely do what they feel is in thier best interest, which is money making fights, which is what people want to see, and people want to see Hughes vs Penn II. They'll make it happen.

Karo has already earned his shot, too bad about that injury. I'm definitely looking forward to see how Diego does against The Heat.

GSPALLTHEWAY · 07-30-2006, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by subgenius

As the rumor mill turns. BJ Penn lost to GSP. That match was for a title shot. Penn lost his title shot. He will not be given one again for quite some time.

while we both shared opinions on being pro GSP, i dont agree with you here.. GSP is complete monster and while penn did lose that fight, it wasnt by much... combine that with the fact he BEAT hughes and that makes him a prime canidate to get a title shot.. the fact that he lost to GSP doesnt at all take him out of the mix, everyone loses to GSP! and alot of people including hughes want to see a penn rematch...

subgenius · 07-31-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GSPalltheway

while we both shared opinions on being pro GSP, i dont agree with you here.. GSP is complete monster and while penn did lose that fight, it wasnt by much... combine that with the fact he BEAT hughes and that makes him a prime canidate to get a title shot.. the fact that he lost to GSP doesnt at all take him out of the mix, everyone loses to GSP! and alot of people including hughes want to see a penn rematch...

Penn beat Hughes years ago. It won't happen again. Right now only the most hard core MMA fans want to see Penn fight Hughes. After the loss to GSP, Penn is pretty much done. He has not beaten anyone worth anything in the UFC. He had a chance to shine against Lyoto, but lost. He had a chance against GSP, but lost. Penn is not the be all and end all of MMA. He is not even that good anymore. His conditioning is terrible. Matt Hughes would beat Penn now as badly as Hughes beat Royce Gracie.

Matt Hughes might have wanted Penn before the GSP fight, but I highly doubt that Penn is even on Hughes' radar now. There are far too many superior fighters to Penn to be worried about a guy that is on the down slide of his career. Interviews before the Penn-GSP fight showed that Penn does not even know whether or not he wants to fight anymore. Where has he been? Why no matches to bounce back from the loss to GSP? What is he doing? The answer is nothing. He's done.