Whos the dominant fighter in his individual weight class in the UFC

St.Pierre_is_the_best · 06-16-2006, 07:33 PM

Just want to see who you would think is the most dominant fighter in the individual weight class, not open class though.

L0cusT · 06-16-2006, 08:50 PM

i like matt hughes and im a big fan of GSP, but i really cant choose GSP cause Hughes is really dominating the WW division for now...i can understand that some ppl vote for gsp too cause he beated some very good fighters in his last fights but i wont say he dominate the division until he beat matt...

if he beat matt, then ill vote for him

Goeth27 · 06-16-2006, 08:59 PM

I say rich, because so far all his title matches have been undesputed wins, and he hasn't lost that title yet.

Bomber · 06-16-2006, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Goeth27

I say rich, because so far all his title matches have been undesputed wins, and he hasn't lost that title yet.

I agree. Plus, who is there right now to challenge? Maybe Anderson Silva, but he's not even an official contender until he wins a couple of UFC fights.

PghPens71 · 06-16-2006, 11:33 PM

I can't say now. the WW is so stacked and the MW is so not-stacked that it's hard to say.
I need to see gsp/hughes go and then the winner take on Penn. So by my default, i'm voting penn. Obviously Franklins dominating with no challengers out there as was already said.

Ryduce · 06-16-2006, 11:49 PM

It's definitely a toss up between Hughes and Franklin,but I feel that welterweight is just a little tougher weight class right now.I can't say GSP is the most dominant until September.

Harms · 06-16-2006, 11:58 PM

I don't see how anyone can not vote for Franklin on this question. Franklin, without a doubt, is the most dominating fighter in his ind. weight class. I really don't see him losing his title to anyone soon.

If you seem to have a hard time to pick between Hughes, Penn, and GSP, guess what, none of them are really dominant. You could make a good case for Hughes, but I really think GSP will win the next fight.

angryjonny · 06-17-2006, 12:28 AM

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I don't see how anyone can not vote for Franklin on this question. Franklin, without a doubt, is the most dominating fighter in his ind. weight class. I really don't see him losing his title to anyone soon.

If you seem to have a hard time to pick between Hughes, Penn, and GSP, guess what, none of them are really dominant. You could make a good case for Hughes, but I really think GSP will win the next fight.

Hughes hasn't been dominant? You sure of that. He is the only UFC fighter and current champion that has been dominant. He has only lost one time in what like the last 5 or 6 years? Franklin has beat Tanner and Losieau. Which is no easy feat but doesn't even compare to Hughes. Plus Franklin still hasn't faced the true #1 contendor.

Thrash13 · 06-17-2006, 12:34 AM

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Plus Franklin still hasn't faced the true #1 contendor.

I think you are referring to Lindland, but I won't assume. However, I feel Loiseau and Tanner could take Lindland. I'm not saying they would necessarily, but I wouldn't put Lindland ahead of Loiseau and Tanner right now.

I think Rich is the most dominant in his weight class at this time, mostly on the basis that there isn't anyone to challenge him in the UFC.

Matt Hughes is awesome and one of my favorites, but he could lose the title to GSP or Penn on any given day. Hughes "has" been the most dominant ever, but Franklin is the most dominant currently.

It's nothing against Hughes, it's just Hughes' division is tougher.

angryjonny · 06-17-2006, 12:48 AM

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I think you are referring to Lindland, but I won't assume. However, I feel Loiseau and Tanner could take Lindland. I'm not saying they would necessarily, but I wouldn't put Lindland ahead of Loiseau and Tanner right now.

I think Rich is the most dominant in his weight class at this time, mostly on the basis that there isn't anyone to challenge him in the UFC.

Matt Hughes is awesome and one of my favorites, but he could lose the title to GSP or Penn on any given day. Hughes "has" been the most dominant ever, but Franklin is the most dominant currently.

It's nothing against Hughes, it's just Hughes' division is tougher.

Well that is what sucks is that we will never know since Lindland got canned. I am always going to wonder. No matter how many people tell me how bad they think Lindland would get beat. I would put Lindland at the top of my 185 list for sure, the only reason he can't really be there is because the UFC found a way to get rid of him and he is never going to fight Henderson.

I don't really think that not having any competition means dominant. Hughes has the toughest weight class yet he has only lost to BJ is so many years. That, to me, is way more impressive than someone who doesn't have any competition. Hughes has been truly tested, Franklin is fighting a Nate Quarry and a Loiseau who didn't come to fight but to run away. Tanner is an impressive win for sure but as I've said Hughes has really been pushed as a champ showed why he is the man and has been for so long.

St.Pierre_is_the_best · 06-17-2006, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrash13

I think you are referring to Lindland, but I won't assume. However, I feel Loiseau and Tanner could take Lindland. I'm not saying they would necessarily, but I wouldn't put Lindland ahead of Loiseau and Tanner right now.

I think Rich is the most dominant in his weight class at this time, mostly on the basis that there isn't anyone to challenge him in the UFC.

Matt Hughes is awesome and one of my favorites, but he could lose the title to GSP or Penn on any given day. Hughes "has" been the most dominant ever, but Franklin is the most dominant currently.

It's nothing against Hughes, it's just Hughes' division is tougher.

I think that the best #1 contender for Franklin could have been Ivan Salavarry. HE lost to Nate, but he respected the abilities too much and did not mount any offence on him. I think Nate will be a good contender for Rich after one more match, in his last fight, he started to push teh action in the middle of it against Joe so I think he is now becoming comfortable in the Octagon, so he wil start to press the action. HE will be a great contender for Rich.

As for ww, Matt Hughes may look liek the most dominant because he has the title, but GSP can beat him I think, but he has had to wait much too long for his title shot. He beat Trigg much more easily then Matt did, he beat Sherk in the second round, Matt went the distnace with Sherk, and GSP beat Penn, Matt hasnt done that yet, so I think GSP is the unofficial dominant fighter in teh ww division.

DrumzCT · 06-17-2006, 11:03 AM

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As for ww, Matt Hughes may look liek the most dominant because he has the title, but GSP can beat him I think, but he has had to wait much too long for his title shot. He beat Trigg much more easily then Matt did, he beat Sherk in the second round, Matt went the distnace with Sherk, and GSP beat Penn, Matt hasnt done that yet, so I think GSP is the unofficial dominant fighter in teh ww division.

That is a good argument besides the fact that Matt beat George. If GSP wins the title I think you could make a case for him being the most dominant. Even in his loss to Hughes he was dominating until the armbar.

After watching GSP vs Miller I really wish they would get Miller back in the UFC. Aside from BJ that seemed to be the opponent GSP has had the most trouble with.

stillstanding · 06-17-2006, 02:45 PM

At first I voted for Liddel because he destroyed everybody in th LHW division....then I thought...crap! Franklin is the most dominant in his weight class because A. He is good and B. his division is very shallow. As much as a like Liddel, I didnt read the question all the way through. IF the question said who is the best fighter dominating their division i would say Liddel or Hughes, but it doesnt. So i have to change my vote to "ACE"

pitbullpride · 06-18-2006, 07:55 PM

I definitely have to go with franklin in this one. he has dominated his whole weightclass even if there is nothing to say about his competition. as far as the penn-gsp-hughes hype they cant really be dominant if all of them has beat one and lost to the other. penn beat hughes and lost to gsp.........gsp has beat penn and lost to hughes.....hughes has beat gsp and lost to penn. no dominance there but that is the toughest weightclass in the ufc right now so i still have to give it up to all of them. but as far as dominance goes....yeah.. franklin

pitbullpride · 06-18-2006, 07:58 PM

and of course throwing jason miller back into the mix would be a-ok with me. even though he got beat down by gsp he still went the distance with him which is more than i can say for most in the WW class. he can also bring a little excitement to his game because he has an interesting fighting style. hes a tough kid.

St.Pierre_is_the_best · 06-18-2006, 09:41 PM

Miller would be sweet to have in the UFC again, I think he could make some fun matches against fighters like Drew Fickett, Diaz, Alvez, ppl like that. First I saw him, I thought what a tool, lol, coming out with a slipknot mask, listening to rap, and throwing the moeny around, but he did put up a good match against GSP and he seemed energetic throughout the whole match. I just dont seem him coming back cuz he was the one in the crime incident right?

angryjonny · 06-18-2006, 10:32 PM

Miller had an offer to fight in the UFC again but he turned it down. Some people say it had to do with his past trouble in Georgia but then he signed a deal with Icon not too long after that. Now he is with WFA. Also he would fight at 185. Him at 170 was not his best performance.

Fist of Fury · 06-18-2006, 11:27 PM

I picked Hughes, which is tough because I'm not too fond of him. But, he has held the belt at that weight class longer than anyone. WW is a stacked weight class, and unlike other UFC weight classes, the UFC 170 weightclass is the best in the world (at least I don't think Pride has a 170 class).

I know this poll is only for the UFC, but when I think out of the box (which is never recommended).......Right now I think it would take an act of God for Franklin to beat Henderson. Sure Chuck might beat Silva, but we can only imagine and that one is debatable. HW division, forget about it.

DrumzCT · 06-19-2006, 12:59 AM

I think that it's alot easier to find a fighter style wise that can beat Chuck than can beat Franklin. Franklin can adapt so well to any style opponent while another Randy or a better striker (someone who is a cleaner boxer could probably pick chuck apart) can take out Chuck.

St.Pierre_is_the_best · 06-19-2006, 10:09 AM

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I picked Hughes, which is tough because I'm not too fond of him. But, he has held the belt at that weight class longer than anyone. WW is a stacked weight class, and unlike other UFC weight classes, the UFC 170 weightclass is the best in the world (at least I don't think Pride has a 170 class).

I know this poll is only for the UFC, but when I think out of the box (which is never recommended).......Right now I think it would take an act of God for Franklin to beat Henderson. Sure Chuck might beat Silva, but we can only imagine and that one is debatable. HW division, forget about it.

I don't understand why everyone hates Hughes actualy. I know its cause oh how he was on TUF 2, but I gained more respect for him just cause he is a work horse. I always thought he was laid back, and when I found out how hard he trains, that gave me more respect in his training. Nothing wrong with being laid back, but that is why he is dominant because of how hard he trains. Rich is more laid back, but when he does train, he trains hardcore. Im cheering for GSP in the next match, but I always root for Matt in his matches.