Monson vs. Sylvia????

WRA7488 · 07-09-2006, 01:59 AM

I'm pretty sure I heard right, that Monson may be the next shot at Sylvia. Who thinks this would be a good fight? Monson is an agressive guy, and if he charged at Sylvia's locked up legs, I think he might be able to take out the beast. That was the flaw in Arlovski's work... one hard kick to Sylvia's legs while they are locked up could end the fight, or even break his leg.

SmashingMachine · 07-09-2006, 03:02 AM

I don't think Monson will get close to a take down. Tim fights for Militech and they'll have him being a sprawlin' machine. That's even if Monson gets inside enough to attempt a takedown. Tim's got such a reach advantage and good strikes that I think Monson will look like he's got the mumps or something. However, if he does or would manage to get Tim down, Big Tim's going to be in trouble. Because, Monson's the real deal on the ground.

Pegger · 07-09-2006, 03:07 AM

I hope the Snowman is hungrier than the Pitbull was

SmashingMachine · 07-09-2006, 03:21 AM

I think both Tim and AA fought like they were afraid of getting KO'ed. Tim just did a little bit more than AA. And, AA should've never stopped with those leg kicks to Tim's left knee, and/or pushed for the ground game.

Krakatau · 07-09-2006, 03:32 AM

^^^Yeah, leg kicks and ground game. I just don't know why he tried to keep boxing with Tim. I still think Arlovski is the better of the two, and completely capable of beating Tim. More dangerous to most other fighters than Tim would be.

I've honestly never seen Monson fight as far as I can recall. Wouldn't that be cool if early stoppages (like Ken and Tito) led to us seeing undercard fights (has before, just not tonight?) instead of the SAME HYPE REEL THAT HAS BEEN RUNNING IN 20 MINUTE LOOPS FOR THE ENTIRE CKING DAY??????

Jras0001 · 07-09-2006, 05:03 AM

Ya, I think that what we all saw with the AA / Sylvia fight was two really hard hitting fighters overly respecting the others power and punching. Had AA worked the leg a little more, possibly just one more round like he did in round one, and he would have taken that fight, either by ko or sub when Tim went down.

JoeRoganismyhero · 07-09-2006, 07:34 AM

Monson will be a dangerous fighter for Tim to face, he is a abu dabi heavyweight submission champion and if Sylvia thinks he will be able to stand and pose with Monson like he has with Assuerio and Andrei he has another thing coming, Monson will try to him down and submit him and WILL be successful IMO.

Bomber · 07-09-2006, 08:56 AM

I'll bet on Monson. The ground is the only place any of the current UFC HW's has a chance to upset Sylvia. Monson is totally at home on the ground and he's strong enought to get Tim down.

Man watching AA last night was so frustrating. Shoot Andrei, shoot! At least try it, don't just passively let the belt slip away.

subgenius · 07-09-2006, 09:45 AM

I am going with Jeff Monson as well. I think that he can beat Tim Sylvia. AA was too afraid of getting KO'd, and he wanted to KO Sylvia too much. AA and Sylvia stayed standing way too long. AA just needing a few big takedowns, do some GnP, and stand back up, and I think that he would have won. Monson will likely go that route with Sylvia. It seemed obvious that Tim Sylvia was afraid of going to the ground to work. Monson is tough. He can take some solid punches. He can give them as well. However, like someone else mentioned, Tim Sylvia has that height and reach advantage. That could be a problem for anyone that is shorter.

Master Jones · 07-09-2006, 10:19 AM

Munson won't be able to get close enough to Tim. Tim win's by k.o.

Harms · 07-09-2006, 11:39 AM

You would think that if Munson was the #1 contender that they would have actually shown his fight instead of just a couple of quick highlights at the end.

Profane · 07-09-2006, 11:45 AM

i like Munson in the fight. not cuz i think he's the next best Heavyweight, cuz i dont but because his style is a perfect fit to control the fight. i think Tim will be the intimidated fighter in the match because there is a huge advantage going agianst him. Munson is strong enough to get Tim to the ground via the clinch. so its not like Munson has to shoot on Tim. he can sweep him and then break on of his limbs. imma put money on Munson when they fight.

RebLMunkE · 07-09-2006, 11:49 AM

If Jeff could get him to the ground I don't think Tim would stand a chance really...............As small and strong as Jeff is he would probably tap Tim's long arms and legs pretty fast.

SmashingMachine · 07-09-2006, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Profane

i like Munson in the fight. not cuz i think he's the next best Heavyweight, cuz i dont but because his style is a perfect fit to control the fight. i think Tim will be the intimidated fighter in the match because there is a huge advantage going agianst him. Munson is strong enough to get Tim to the ground via the clinch. so its not like Munson has to shoot on Tim. he can sweep him and then break on of his limbs. imma put money on Munson when they fight.

Tim's never been intimidated and I don't see that happening via Jeff Monson either. Pe De Pano whacked Monson all over the ring with his slap punches and reach advantage. Tim's got a much bigger reach advantage and punches like he has bricks in his gloves. I doubt Monson even gets close enough for a take down. Tim trains with a whole stable of world class fighters. One of which is Matt Hughes, who's the same height as Monson and also a good wrestler by backround...not to mention he's a lot quicker than Monson. Tim will wax him, but if Monson would some how manage to get it to the ground; which is his only prayer, Tim might be in big trouble...because Monson is darn good on the ground...but getting it there's going to be his biggest problem.

Profane · 07-09-2006, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashingMachine

Tim's never been intimidated and I don't see that happening via Jeff Monson either. Pe De Pano whacked Monson all over the ring with his slap punches and reach advantage. Tim's got a much bigger reach advantage and punches like he has bricks in his gloves. I doubt Monson even gets close enough for a take down. Tim trains with a whole stable of world class fighters. One of which is Matt Hughes, who's the same height as Monson and also a good wrestler by backround...not to mention he's a lot quicker than Monson. Tim will wax him, but if Monson would some how manage to get it to the ground; which is his only prayer, Tim might be in big trouble...because Monson is darn good on the ground...but getting it there's going to be his biggest problem.

thats pretty much what i think. i kinda mis worded it i dont mean intimidated generally but i mean Tim has to know Munsons only chance is on the ground just like Munson knows Tims chance is on the feet. its gonna be one of those fights where Munson has to take Timmy down and thats all he's gonna be training to do. and Munson is a tank so i imagine its gonna be hard as hell for Tim to stay on his feet. i actually am excited about the match up. and i personally like Munsons chances.

sitnspin · 07-09-2006, 12:19 PM

I have to laugh at all these guys who will consistently bet on whoever Tim Sylvia's fighting. How many fights does he have to win and who does he have to beat before you'll give him a little respect?

Bomber · 07-09-2006, 12:30 PM

My only problem with Sylvia is that he's ugly to watch. The big guys often look slow and clumsy. Mir/Christinson was the epitome of the worst in heavyweights.

Tim actually looked a lot more like a fighter last night, better form and good counterpunching. He fought a smart fight, unlike AA. I'll never understand why Arlovsky didn't shoot in the third round.

Anyway, Tim is now the undisputed HW champ in the UFC, so good for him.

lwbfl · 07-09-2006, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by subgenius

I am going with Jeff Monson as well. I think that he can beat Tim Sylvia. AA was too afraid of getting KO'd, and he wanted to KO Sylvia too much. AA and Sylvia stayed standing way too long. AA just needing a few big takedowns, do some GnP, and stand back up, and I think that he would have won. Monson will likely go that route with Sylvia. It seemed obvious that Tim Sylvia was afraid of going to the ground to work. Monson is tough. He can take some solid punches. He can give them as well. However, like someone else mentioned, Tim Sylvia has that height and reach advantage. That could be a problem for anyone that is shorter.

I think Monson will GNP Sylvia for the win also. A.A. and Sylvia were both driven not to lose, instead of trying to win. If A.A. would have kept up those leg kicks, Tim would have went down from just that! If they had went to the ground, I believe that A.A. would be wearing the belt right now. Monson can take and give big shots too, so I'd really like to see them go at it.

sitnspin · 07-09-2006, 01:29 PM

Tim Sylvia's about two feet taller than Jeff Monson, and Monson has to reach Sylvia before he can hit him.

Ray433 · 07-09-2006, 01:38 PM

And we all saw in the Cruz fight that Monson has real problems working his game against someone with a considerable reach advantage. I think Big Tim is gonna be holding that belt for a while. Let's just pray that Mir shows up to his next fight Ripped and on fire and we get to see some great HW fights between him and the pitbull and him and Sylvia.