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Snow Patrol · 08-17-2006, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bomber

Yes he is.

A LW, and a WW, and a MW.

Hmmm, I think it was rumoured that he'd be in the LW division now (ie he won't be swapping divisions like he has before). Don't know how much substance there is in it though.

PghPens71 · 08-18-2006, 02:01 AM

I'm glad that Jesus was out there helping diego over all those little kids dying of cancer. He's a special dude.
I hate Diego more than Hitler mixed with Howard Dean and Freddy Mercury --and i always shall.

FightFan23 · 08-18-2006, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenman

I guess I will be the first to say........Yes, I am still a 'hater'.

It isn't his fighting that bugs me, it's just him. I was certain Karo was going to school him today, but I was wrong, great fight though.

I guess we will see now what the UFC does with him, a title shot? Maybe, Penn? He's a good fighter, he's proven it.

That doesn't mean I have to like him.

I must say I feel the same. Not so much a hater and I just dont like the guy. Its not his fighting, he's just not a fighter I would root for. I will say this fight has impressed me. he showed good skills against a guy I didn't think he would get past. Good job diego, u have proved you are better then I gave you credit for.

But I dont have to like him...LOL

marnold · 08-18-2006, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tropicana

I was really impressed with Diego tonight . Jesus was with him tonight. so he says?

I wonder why Jesus wasn't with Karo?

Hey, you can read back through every post I've made, I've always been a Diego fan. He pushed his way through TUF like no other fighter has in any other season. He is a force to be reckoned with. And I bet 20k on him.

I hope this will get him the respect he deserves.

Nimmy · 08-18-2006, 08:49 AM

i always liked diego (slightly) i had a problem with him being wrapped in cotton wool by the UFC i feel he has progressed his game tho and that showed beating karo

Bomber · 08-18-2006, 08:55 AM

I think I've always had a pretty good read on Sanchez's ability. I thought this one was going to be very close and it was. I still think that Penn, GSP and Hughes are better at this time, and I'm anxious for him to fight one of them. It's not fair or realistic that a guy like Randy Couture has a record of 14-8 and Sanchez is 18-0.

LB4LB · 08-18-2006, 09:46 AM

Why would hate Diego Sanchez as much as, oh I don't know, Hitler?

I have to be honest with you, I can never understand why people develop a hate for someone who has never seemed to have displayed qualities (arrogance, crude, being disrespectful, etc...) that may warrant a dislike for them. Now I understand that he feels he is the best in his weight division - I disagree - but it is only natural for one at his level and who is undefeated, to be confident in his abilities - I personally would not confuse that as arrogance.

Truly it can't be that Diego has had an easy run. Karo and Diaz are hardly easy wins. Furthermore Diego's skills are not that of an amateur. Outside of MMA he is an accomplished grappler. So with that said, why do you hate him so much? Is it his religious affiliation?

I will look forward to your response.

LB4LB · 08-18-2006, 09:47 AM

That reply was not for Bomber but for PghPens71

SeikanJudanski · 08-18-2006, 09:50 AM

I was about to jump on the Diego Sanchez bandwagon, until he said that he is the best in the world last night. That threw me back off.

Still, nice knee knocking Karo´s tooth out, however I think he would have serious trouble with GSP, and Hughes he cannot beat, IMO.

nublood · 08-18-2006, 10:24 AM

I was on the fance about the decision until about halfway through the 3rd. Imo, Karo was winning with strikes and those massive takedowns. I think Diego won decisively(sp?) however. He really turned up the heat (pun?) in the 3rd round and did what he had to do win over the judges. Great night for Diego!

T-Bone · 08-18-2006, 11:05 AM

Yeah, I still don't like (not Dirty) Sanchez but ya gotta hand it to him and Jesus for the Karo fight.

Seriously, why so much vaseline - he was extra greasy last night.

Anyway, Diego was tested and passed. Ready for GSP and/or Hughes - I hope they match him up. After all, Diego is the best 170 lb. fighter in the world, right?

subgenius · 08-18-2006, 11:57 AM

Please, give The Nightmare a chance. I see you guys paying the respect, but the "hate" or dislike is a bit of a puzzle to me as well. But, in a way, the way that you guys attack his Mexican heritage is almost endearing. It is like you want to like him, but cannot force yourselves to admit that you like him -- not in public, at least. Most of the people that I watch MMA with were like you guys, but after last night they have all started to admit that they actually do like the guy.

Ultimately, the answer is "No"; you do NOT have to like Diego "The Nightmare" Sánchez. I like him because he embraces his heritage. It is a different heritage from mine, but it is his and he does not seem ashamed. Sure, Diego did say that he was the best WW. And, I do not blame him for being THAT confident. Honestly, how can he say to the audience, "Hey, I'm not the best, but I'm good enough." (???) That seems wierd for any fighter to say as they are looking at a title shot oppurtunity.

That last point is what it is all about: THE TITLE SHOT! That is the end of the road that all of Diego Sánchez's wins have been leading. Fighters with lesser win-loss records have already been champions in the UFC. So, you guys feel that Sánchez has been handed easy targets. Well, after Diaz and Karo, I cannot see how anyone can continue to claim that Diego is being handled with kid gloves. Gassaway may not have been the best opponent. But, Alessio was a good opponent, and so was Ken-Flo (at the Finale for TUF1). Diaz and Karo were both considered top four in the UFC.

T-Bone · 08-18-2006, 12:00 PM

What does his heritage have to do with anything? He just rubs me the wrong way and he still sounds like a little kid when he talks. You and your friends (who now like him) can root for him, that's cool.

No way, you're right - the kid gloves are off now.

subgenius · 08-18-2006, 12:11 PM

I wanted to add that I also felt that Diego Sánchez defeated Karo Parisyan in such a way that he definately passed any test. And, that he did it following the same essential game plan that he always follows. The same basic style that the current WW champion, Matt Hughes, also follows (except that Hughes applies slams).

However, last night we also saw that Sánchez has improved his striking game even more. He trained boxing with specialist from the Mexican Olympic boxing team. Speaking of training, Sánchez also did a training camp that featured Fedor Emilianenko. Diego actually trained with Fedor. That paid off last night. Both the boxing and the MMA training helped Sánchez to defeat Karo.

That knee from Diego knocked out Karo's tooth. How often do you see that happen? Diego was thrown around by Karo's Judo, but Diego used masterful grappling and wrestling to counter Karo's follow-through effectiveness. The elbows we saw Karo use in his last match were not a factor against Diego. And, Diego used the clinch (dirty boxing?) to get some awesome uppercuts. The striking from Diego was very good all around.

Crashsti · 08-18-2006, 12:24 PM

Diego has proven himself to be a hard worker, he is constantly learning and has always been in shape for a fight. i think he has been given some easier opponents at times but to beat Karo by decision is should be enough to get the guy the respect he deserves as a fighter. i am not going to try to defend his personality, he is who he is. if i have one complaint its that he has'nt been able to finish his fights. he certainly tries in most cases but i'd like to see him win more fights by TKO or submission. can he beat Hughes, GSP or Penn? i'd say no but i did'nt think he'd make it past Karo.

subgenius · 08-18-2006, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Crashsti

Diego has proven himself to be a hard worker, he is constantly learning and has always been in shape for a fight. i think he has been given some easier opponents at times but to beat Karo by decision is should be enough to get the guy the respect he deserves as a fighter. i am not going to try to defend his personality, he is who he is. if i have one complaint its that he has'nt been able to finish his fights. he certainly tries in most cases but i'd like to see him win more fights by TKO or submission. can he beat Hughes, GSP or Penn? i'd say no but i did'nt think he'd make it past Karo.

I think that you may be correct. About Sánchez not being ready for the top three WW fighters -- Penn, GSP and (the champion) Matt Hughes. I would prefer that the UFC give Diego Sánchez three more fights over the next six to eight months. I would prefer that Diego get some more experience. I said it way back when Diego won TUF1. Sánchez needs 18-to-24 months to get ready for a championship level fighter. It has been about 14 or 15 months since Diego debuted in the UFC. I think that defeating Karo has excellerated Sánchez's situation. I think that the UFC wants to see what he can do at the championship level.

Dogg · 08-18-2006, 12:56 PM

I'm one of those guys too that just doesn't really like the guy. Has he proved his skill level, after last night, yes. Do I still look forward to seeing him lose, yes. Will he lose to BJ, GSP, or Hughes, I can't help but think DEFINATELY; but he is good. I just can't hang with the attitude is all, and some of the things he's said and done bothers me.
That was funny what he said to Joe last night though huh, "you gonna say I'm a wacky character again?", or something like that.

Harms · 08-18-2006, 01:17 PM

I'm a Diego fan. I try not to let things like TUF cloud my judgement. Can he beat the top 3? Maybe. If he improves his standup even more, I don't see how he couldn't? I think GSP/Hughes/Penn would have problems submitting Diego. Not saying they couldn't. Diego is in the top 5 of WW if not top 4.

Bomber · 08-18-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Harms

Diego is in the top 5 of WW if not top 4.

AFAIC he won 4th spot last night.

DirtyChuckRulz! · 08-18-2006, 01:54 PM

I give Diego mad props for the way he fought. I am one of his biggest critics but he has continued to improve and has earned his shot at the big three at 170. the most logical next fight for him to me is B J Penn. that is a big jump up from Karo. his cardio looked fantastic he reminded me of a little Tito.