Why Are Most UFC Fighters Just Ground Skill Fighters? - Fight Forum - MMA - UFC - Boxing - K1

FrontlineSkin88 · 08-19-2006, 12:26 PM

Lately most of the new fighters that are coming up are pretty much just ground skill fighters, some of them just know that, they just go for the takedown and try to submit or to ground and pound. Don't get me wrong I like the ground game but if ur going to fight in an orginazation u need to be a well rounded fighter in order to dominate and become an even better fighter after each fight. Come on in my opinion anyone can takedown a guy and try to punch that's easy fr anyone even some kids fighting at school, the real challenge is the stand up, that's much more harder, I just want to see more stand up in the UFC,more well rounded fighters.

jmag · 08-19-2006, 12:44 PM

Ground fighting is dominant in mma. Strikers that succeed in mma do so because they have enough ground skills or ground skill defense. My opinion is that grounds skills are the foundation.

I'd much rather come in with a strong wrestling/bjj background than stand up. It's those guys that dominate and can work on their striking.

the_natural · 08-19-2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jmag

Ground fighting is dominant in mma. Strikers that succeed in mma do so because they have enough ground skills or ground skill defense. My opinion is that grounds skills are the foundation.

I'd much rather come in with a strong wrestling/bjj background that stand up. It's those guys that dominate and can work on their striking.

true, and after watching mma for some time you really begin to appreciate the ground game as much as, maybe even more than striking.

you really musnt make comments like 'anyone can take a guy down'. i'd like to see someone with no mma training taking down a ufc or pride fighter today.

Grave · 08-19-2006, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jmag

Ground fighting is dominant in mma. Strikers that succeed in mma do so because they have enough ground skills or ground skill defense. My opinion is that grounds skills are the foundation.

Yeah like Chuck, his grounds skills/defense are why he is able to prevent takedowns and stay off the ground. Very hard to take chuck down.

Grave · 08-19-2006, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by the_natural

you really musnt make comments like 'anyone can take a guy down'. i'd like to see someone with no mma training taking down a ufc or pride fighter today.

Yeah talk about ignorance in knowledge of how MMA works.

The guys might make it look easy to take another fighter down on Tv, but that is because they are so good.

Any bar-room brawler type dolt off the street, who attempts a takedown on a trained UFC fighter, would eat a knee and get KO'ed before he was even in range for a proper hold on the guy.

sitnspin · 08-19-2006, 01:45 PM

Anderson Silva
Rich Franklin
Chuck Liddell
Tim Sylvia
Andrei Arlovski
Mike Swick
David Loiseau
Mark Hominick
Forrest Griffin

Those are just the first names that immediately came to mind of top-level UFC fighters who usually prefer to keep it standing. But as has been said here, you have to be able to dominate on the ground too if you want to be successful. If you're a good striker, your opponent is going to want to take it to the mat. So when a guy shoots for a takedown on you, it's usually because he doesn't want to stand and strike because he respects your mitts.

BTW, dude. What does your name "Frontline Skin" refer to?

Bomber · 08-19-2006, 03:10 PM

I prefer fights that have a good mix of grappling and striking. But I'd much rather watch a predominately ground match like Sanchez/Diaz than a pure striking match like Bonnar/Griffin or Sylvia Arlovski III where no one even tries to shoot.

One of the things I don't like is a fight with too many clinches. AFAIC clinches are the most boring part of an MMA fight.

spiritofbattle · 08-19-2006, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Grave

Yeah like Chuck, his grounds skills/defense are why he is able to prevent takedowns and stay off the ground. Very hard to take chuck down.

watch chuck when hes fighting coture. coture is trying to take him down, liddell is holding him looking right at mcarthy waiting for him to separate them. liddell has good defense, yes but its not great. he will do anything to make the ref stand them up . not a big chuck fan here....but he is the best striker counter striker in ufc right now.

hes a boxer

MadOne · 08-19-2006, 06:05 PM

Chuck is a perfect example.. Not just because he is the champ but because he does such a amazing job of keeping fights standing - his take down defence is the top in the game, thats why he almost all ways wins by a knock out - with maybe little eye pokes :P

spiritofbattle · 08-19-2006, 08:19 PM

For being a ground dominant organization, there sure seems to be a lot of ko's.

St.Pierre_is_the_best · 08-19-2006, 08:28 PM

Ya i realy wounldn't say most fighters are ground game fighters. A lot of the domiant fighters today are strikers, 3 of the 4 champions are strikers. The ground game is very important don't get me wrong, but I dont agree with u saying its only ground fighting. I like a standing KO more then a ground n pound victory.

Best spralls
Chuck
GSP
Forest Griffin

Top 3 in my opinion.

There is many strikers tho, added to sitnspin's list is Melvin Guillard, Paul Buentello, Hermes Franca, Yves Edwards.