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08-21-2006, 08:44 PM
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K.O. KING
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. I wish that tim would make fedor tap out.
that would be incredibly unlikely, on the verge of a dumb thing to say.
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08-21-2006, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by trigrhappy
. I wish that tim would make fedor tap out.
that would be incredibly unlikely, on the verge of a dumb thing to say.
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LOL,but seriously,if that happened the world would implode.
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08-21-2006, 09:44 PM
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the good thing about awesome fighters is when they lose it is the match of the year. That is the only reason ppl want to see big names and unbeatables fight. They want to see them lose. They may say that they will win, because they are supposed to win. But ppl want big names to lose(fedor,hughes,gsp,franklin,liddel,tim)
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08-21-2006, 11:23 PM
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If there is going to be a UFC vs Pride ppv, the fight card I would proly want to see is....
Liddell vs Silva
Tim Sylvia vs Cro Cop
AA vs Fedor
Henderson vs Franklin
Marcio Shogun Rua vs Tito Ortiz
then the prelims could be scattered
Baroni vs Swick
Ricardo Arona vs Alessio Sakara
Fujita or Randleman vs Monson
Antonio Nougeira vs Brandon Vera
I think Cro Cop vs Sylvia would provide an awesome hw stand up war, and I think that AA is stil better despite his loss, so it would be better to see him fight Fedor, but he could also fight Alexander instead maybe. Its a bit too stacked to realy happen I would have to think.
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08-21-2006, 11:28 PM
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what?
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Originally Posted by trigrhappy
I think its hillarious that sylvia would like to fight fedor and thinks that he can win. I think fedor would mollywop sylvia what do u guys think?
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Who is fedor? Is he from pride?? Where can I see some flicks of some of his action??? I would really like to see someone knock Silva the heck out.
And what exactly is a mollywop?
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08-22-2006, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by koking
Who is fedor? Is he from pride?? Where can I see some flicks of some of his action??? I would really like to see someone knock Silva the heck out.
And what exactly is a mollywop?
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Here is a highlight clip
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08-22-2006, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by St.Pierre_is_the_best
If there is going to be a UFC vs Pride ppv, the fight card I would proly want to see is....
Liddell vs Silva
Tim Sylvia vs Cro Cop
AA vs Fedor
Henderson vs Franklin
Marcio Shogun Rua vs Tito Ortiz
then the prelims could be scattered
Baroni vs Swick
Ricardo Arona vs Alessio Sakara
Fujita or Randleman vs Monson
Antonio Nougeira vs Brandon Vera
I think Cro Cop vs Sylvia would provide an awesome hw stand up war, and I think that AA is stil better despite his loss, so it would be better to see him fight Fedor, but he could also fight Alexander instead maybe. Its a bit too stacked to realy happen I would have to think.
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Antonio Rodrigo Nogueria on the prelims fighting Vera? Big Nog is the former Pride HW champion and most probably the best Submission fighter in the world. Putting him on a prelim that might not even be televised would be a disgrace. Actually any of those Pride fighters you listen with the exception of Baroni should be on a main card.
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08-22-2006, 01:38 PM
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man if that guy is half as bad as that vid made him look sylvia met his match
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08-22-2006, 02:13 PM
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I don't think Tim Sylvia could beat Heath Herring,let alone the greatest MMA fighter ever.Tim couldn't even put away Assuerio Silva and a wounded Arlovski.Fedor's brother would probably easily beat Tim.Tim's only chance against Fedor would be to swing crazy like Shamrock did in the opening of Ortiz Shamrock II,and then pray to god he connects.Even then he would still lose because Fedor is not a human,he is in fact,a cyborg from another dimension.
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08-22-2006, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by koking
man if that guy is half as bad as that vid made him look sylvia met his match
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the funny ting about that highlight is that some of those clips are almost the entire fight, (Goodridge, Ogawa) He really is a machine and a complete fighter in every way. Watch as many of his fights as you can.
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08-22-2006, 03:41 PM
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I listened to Mark Coleman being interviewed recently (on Beatdown), and he said cool stuff about Fedor. Like how it doesn't even matter that much if the title's on the line, because Fedor is undeniably the best in the world at HW, and if you beat him, everyone knows you're the man whether you get a belt or not. And when asked why he's so dominant, he attributed it to two things: He has incredibly mobile hips, so he can maneuver around for better position before you have any idea what's going on, and he's one of the only guys in MMA who literally can punch as hard from the mount as he can standing up.
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08-22-2006, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sitnspin
I listened to Mark Coleman being interviewed recently (on Beatdown), and he said cool stuff about Fedor. Like how it doesn't even matter that much if the title's on the line, because Fedor is undeniably the best in the world at HW, and if you beat him, everyone knows you're the man whether you get a belt or not. And when asked why he's so dominant, he attributed it to two things: He has incredibly mobile hips, so he can maneuver around for better position before you have any idea what's going on, and he's one of the only guys in MMA who literally can punch as hard from the mount as he can standing up.
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Dang...that's Awesome.
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08-23-2006, 01:27 AM
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I hate BJ Penn
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that explains that armbar huh smash.
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08-23-2006, 09:15 AM
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I gave up fighting
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Fedor has proven to be the most versatile and most adaptable fighter in MMA today. he has a submission game, a GnP and he can strike. he also has incredible submission defense and an ability to control a downed opponent. One thing that Fedor does'nt have in KO power, yes he hits hard but he is'nt exactly a KO machine. he has alot of victories by TKO but i believe only one by actual KO. if he were to fight Tim the only thing he would have to worry about is getting tagged like he did when he fought Fujita. the differance is that Tim would have KO'd him while Fujita only pissed him off once Fedor stopped seeing stars. Tim has very heavy hands and good takedown defense, its not silly to think that Tim could upset Fedor and YES that is what it would be, an huge upset. its a fact that Tim would not be favored by anyone to win this fight, not even me and i think Tim is the best fighter at his size, meaning for a 6'8" 265lb. guy. he is not the best heavyweight but he is Top 4 in the world.
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08-23-2006, 10:01 AM
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Sylvia would probably be the number 4 in Pride right now. I do not see him beating Fedor or Nog, he could surprise CroCop. I think he would hammer Fujita and Hunt due to his reach. Also against Assuerio Silva wasn't he sick? Not sure about AA since I did not see the PPV yet, but he won 2 in a row against the man everybody was swooning over for the UFC. If Big Tim gets back to where he was when he dismantled Cabbage, Ricco, McGee, and AA 2 then he could surprise many.
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08-23-2006, 12:44 PM
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I still thin k that AA is better then Tim, AA had to much respect for Tim in the trilogy, so he didnt move in as much as usual. If Fedor were to fight in the UFC, I think it would be a better match to see him fight AA, and then give Tim Cro Cop, then that could be a great stand up war. If Mir could get back in shape and to his usual self, then a match against Antonio Noguira would be a key match.
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08-23-2006, 01:31 PM
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I gave up fighting
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Originally Posted by St.Pierre_is_the_best
I still thin k that AA is better then Tim, AA had to much respect for Tim in the trilogy, so he didnt move in as much as usual. If Fedor were to fight in the UFC, I think it would be a better match to see him fight AA, and then give Tim Cro Cop, then that could be a great stand up war. If Mir could get back in shape and to his usual self, then a match against Antonio Noguira would be a key match.
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there is alot more to being a good fighter than the skills you learn in the gym. yes, its true(at least on paper) that Arlovski is a more well rounded fighter than Tim is, but how do you explain him losing to Tim not once but twice? you said it yourself, "AA had to much respect for Tim". that right there says that Arlovski did'nt even have faith in his own skills, that he doubted his game and everything that made him UFC heavyweight champion. Tim on the other hand never doubts himself. in the first fight he got knocked down and submitted. In the second fight he got knocked down again but this time got right back up and went right at AA to knock him down and out. fight 3, Tim sticks to his gameplan and AA is too scared and yes, injured to engage. AA might be better physically at fighting than Tim is but Tim has a huge edge in the mental game.
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08-23-2006, 02:03 PM
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in fight 3, didn't Tim take out AA legs with kicks so he could not produce the power behind his kicks and punches. If so that was a great move and strategy by Big Tim. I am becoming more and more impressed with him.
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08-23-2006, 04:20 PM
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I don't buy the too must respect crap. That was just speculation after the fight before we found out AA had been injured. I'm sure he would have been a lot more methodical than the previous fight making sure to not make the same mistake again, but he would have been more aggressive. I'll agree Sylvia has a great gameplan, but it's his gameplan that makes me hate to watch him fight. There should be a lot more to you're fighting style than counters. He is more mentally composed in the cage, which can be a huge factor, but i don't think it's more than AAs to the point that i think he's a better fighter.
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08-23-2006, 07:19 PM
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K.O. KING
Join Date: Aug 2006
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i agree with rockem. i can't stand watching tim fight and i cant take away that he has been winning but for some reason i just cant give him the respect that a champion deserves. AA will be back.
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