Karo says he was eye-poked

subgenius · 08-29-2006, 02:22 PM

I agree with Ryduce here. Karo is making excuses now. Just like Diaz, who is still making excuses a year later about losing to Sánchez. Karo just cannot accept that he lost to a guy from a Reality TV show. What would a rematch prove? Karo should fight Diaz. That would be better, IMO.

subgenius · 08-29-2006, 02:32 PM

I did want to point out that the judges did not agree with Karo Parisyan about who won what rounds. All three judges gave Diego Sánchez 30 points for winning all three rounds. I think the judges were 30-27, 30-26, 30-27 for a unanimous decision for Sánchez. One of the judges even gave Diego a 10-8 round, which was likely the third round (where Diego dominated). IMO, Karo clearly lost this match. And, I hate to agree with the judges, but they called it right.

As for the eye-poke, it does happen. Both GSP and Karo have had to deal with it, but at least GSP did not dwell on it after the fight. GSP also fought through it and won. Penn and Sánchez did not mean to purposely poke their opponents in the eye. Chuck Liddell has proven that he does not need to eye-poke an opponent to win a match. But, it happens in a puncher's game. It will especially happen with the four-ounce baby gloves (or are they 12 oz? I forget).

Gooner · 08-29-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by subgenius

I did want to point out that the judges did not agree with Karo Parisyan about who won what rounds. All three judges gave Diego Sánchez 30 points for winning all three rounds. I think the judges were 30-27, 30-26, 30-27 for a unanimous decision for Sánchez. One of the judges even gave Diego a 10-8 round, which was likely the third round (where Diego dominated). IMO, Karo clearly lost this match. And, I hate to agree with the judges, but they called it right.

Or maybe it was two judges giving it to Diego 29-28 and one (obviously bat**** insane) judge giving it to Diego 30-26.

Do you pull these facts out of your ass or something?

MadOne · 08-29-2006, 02:59 PM

light gloves (4-6 ounces) that allow fingers to grab..

Karo isn't making excuses for his loss, he is responding to questions being asked to him. He's explaining what happend in the fight in his words then they talk about each round and what Karo did during.

Ryduce · 08-29-2006, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MadOne

light gloves (4-6 ounces) that allow fingers to grab..

Karo isn't making excuses for his loss, he is responding to questions being asked to him. He's explaining what happend in the fight in his words then they talk about each round and what Karo did during.

Karo is making excuses,just not as outrageous as his excuses after the GSP fight.

lwbfl · 08-29-2006, 03:09 PM

4oz. I don't care about their personality. Most of these guys are much different than your average person. They have to be to do what they do for a living. I choose who I like and dislike by thier actions inside the octagon/ring/cage. I like both of these guys skills, Karo more because of the awesome Judo throws, and agree that Deigo won without a doubt.

MadOne · 08-29-2006, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryduce

Karo is making excuses,just not as outrageous as his excuses after the GSP fight.

Making excuses for what ? the loss ? he talks about the eye-poke and talks about what he did each round and his opinion about the judging. The only part of that interview that can be labled a excuse is him explaining why his tooth came out. Other then that it's just him talking about the fight and wht he did.
He's not the only one that thinks he won the first two rounds, but as we all know if it goes to the judges nothing you can do.

comucazi · 08-29-2006, 03:23 PM

quick poll who thinks karo won the first two rounds

(i don't for the record although his hari goshi throw is one of the best i've ever seen in the ufc)

GSPALLTHEWAY · 08-29-2006, 03:33 PM

you guys are getting way off base.... sub, please dont go too crazy on this.. you went nuts about the BJ penn eye poke (as did i) and dont bring up the judge who scored the fight 30 to 26... do you really believe that should have been the score??
karo made excuses, he shouldnt.... he should show more class i agree... he did get poked in the eye, it greatly effected the first round, he could have still come through though.... however this was a very very close fight, diego 100% won... but you guys are just tooling on karo and thats over the top just a bit.... its just one little interview, if he keeps complaining about it fine...

its amazing how fast people are on and off the karo bandwagon and everyone from that matter...

Ryduce · 08-29-2006, 03:36 PM

The appropriate score was
Rd1:10-9 Karo(close could easily go either way)
Rd2:10-9 Diego(could also go either way)
Rd3:10-8 Diego or 10-9
Winner

iego 29-27 or 29-28

In my mind the first two rounds were so close that they negate each other.Diego could have easily taken all three rounds depending on each judges scoring criteria,and he was clearly more offensive throughout the fight.The third round was dominant enough to secure Diego the victory.

Bomber · 08-29-2006, 03:43 PM

I had it 29-28 Diego.

I'm not clear on something. Karo clearly thought he'd been poked and tried to tell Big John about it a couple of times. Did McCarthy ignore him intentionallly, because he didn't agree or see a poke? Did he just not notice that Karo was trying to get his attention? Is the ref allowed to stop the fight because Karo is claiming an eye poke? In other words, what was McCarthy's role in this?

Gooner · 08-29-2006, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryduce

The appropriate score was
Rd1:10-9 Karo(close could easily go either way)
Rd2:10-9 Diego(could also go either way)
Rd3:10-8 Diego or 10-9
Winner

iego 29-27 or 29-28

OK, then saying Diego gave Karo "a beatdown" is a bit much, when you yourself think Karo could have won it by taking the first two rounds.
I guess you were referring to the 3rd round then.

Btw, I would have given it to Diego if it was judged like fights in PRIDE. Personally, I think that's a much better system too, especially for fights like this where two rounds are close and one is not.
>>> the guy with two tight rounds can win over the guy who you'd award the win to if you judged the fight as a whole.

GSPALLTHEWAY · 08-29-2006, 03:48 PM

yea good question.... it seems like big john was threatening to stop the fight like karo was quitting.. but you can clearly see how much it hurt karo... all i can think of is the randy vitor fight, but it seemed like big john had no intension of calling it like that...

also on another note, anyone who thinks diego won a round 10 to 8 (is wrong first off) but BETTER say that tito won the first round vs forrest about 10 to 5 lol

sitnspin · 08-29-2006, 04:14 PM

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also on another note, anyone who thinks diego won a round 10 to 8 (is wrong first off) but BETTER say that tito won the first round vs forrest about 10 to 5 lol

I agree with GSPalltheway. No round in that fight should have been scored 10-8.

OneBigThrow · 08-29-2006, 06:28 PM

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Everyone hates on Diego for being cocky,but he did nothing but say good things about Karo.

On the other hand Karo makes excuses,dosen't give credit,and he also accused GSP of steroid use at one point.And yet everyone worships him.

needed to be posted again

ThaiClinchER · 08-29-2006, 07:09 PM

Will Diego ever be beaten? I mean I know that sounds stupid and I know Jason Black was 20-0 before Shonie upset him, but Diego is what 19-0 now?

Who will beat him? I think Hughes might take him to school, but Diego is slowly reminding me of a young Tito. Very aggresive, very unpopular because he simply grounds and pounds you secondary to a huge take-down

WheresBobbySouthworth · 08-29-2006, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryduce

Everyone hates on Diego for being cocky,but he did nothing but say good things about Karo.

On the other hand Karo makes excuses,dosen't give credit,and he also accused GSP of steroid use at one point.And yet everyone worships him.

This interview has really altered my perception of Karo.He has no class,and definitely isn't gracious in defeat.

Ditto

sitnspin · 08-29-2006, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WheresBobbySouthworth

Ditto

Where've you been?

Grave · 08-29-2006, 10:01 PM

The article says things like "Close decision" and "thought he got robbed".

I guess Karo has blocked those tramatic last few minutes of the fight from his mind, because he was getting the BEAT-DOWN by diego and was too gassed to answer any of it back. If they tacked another 20 seconds onto that last round, Diego would have won by GnP stoppage.

angryjonny · 08-29-2006, 10:05 PM

Sub, I'm surprised you aren't jumping all over Diego like you did BJ in this similar situation. Do you hate him now too?