Thread: Bj Penn

Originally Posted by Crashsti

it sad when fans of a losing fighter have to try to save face by saying things like "but he won the first two rounds.". you can be winning all 5 rounds but if you get subbed at 4:59 of rd 5 it does'nt matter. Matt won that fight and it does'nt matter anymore if BJ won any round, he lost the important part and thats the fight.

Matt won that fight fairly squarely, no-one's claimed anything else.

Those comments are simply a reply to all this ridiculous BJ-bashing going on here. The bottom line still is, that a 166-pound guy gave the "most dominating WW of all time" a hell of a fight. They both deserve respect, whether you're a fan or not.

To hell with Penn, he is old news. If Hughes gets past GSP, lets see him in the ring with another contender who's been impressive lately, like Diego Sanchez.

Save Hughs Vs Penn III later on down the line...

Originally Posted by Gooner

The bottom line still is, that a 166-pound guy gave the "most dominating WW of all time" a hell of a fight.

Wow so *4 pounds* makes a world of difference all of a sudden, and penn should be priased for still fighting dispite the "signifigant" weight difference?

Yeah........i think NOT

Originally Posted by Grave

Wow so *4 pounds* makes a world of difference all of a sudden, and penn should be priased for still fighting dispite the "signifigant" weight difference?

Yeah........i think NOT

Showing your ignorance there, buddy.

ehhh i dont think diego can beat penn even... if matt had that much trouble taking down penn, diego couldnt most likely... and in a 3 round fight penn wouldnt gas.. and im pretty sure diego vs penn is the next bout, however on UFCs website they are already talking about Penn hughes III .... which is fair , its no different then chuck vs randy, might just take a litle longer...
anyway hughes definently needs to worry about GSP, im not sure who will win, but id say the odds are with GSP

Originally Posted by Ryduce

I am gonna get flamed for this big time,and if I was on Sherdog I would be branded a TUF noob,but oh well.The person who is gonna dethrone Hughes is not GSP nor Penn.It is Diego Sanchez.Please just hear me out.

He's one of the slickest grapplers I have ever seen,and next to Penn he has the best BJJ in the UFC.The difference between Penn and Diego is that Penn's guard is extremely offensive while Diego's is extremely defensive.He uses his BJJ to out position his opponent,and he does it like no other.He did it to Diaz,he did it to Karo,and he can do it to Hughes.Once he gets top
position on Hughes,he can pass his guard,Diego is extremely effective at passing peoples guards.His cardio is absolutely insane,and he will be able to impose a breakneck pace.

Just watch his ADCC match with Marcelo Garcia(World champ of his weight class for some time).Diego lasted 19 minutes with him and even took his back at one point.His pace was incredible in that match.It was grappling at light speed,and he still looked fresh after 19 minutes.

He is not going to out wrestle Hughes,or out muscle him,but he will out position him.

There are some good points there, but GSP is taking the belt next. I'm almost as sure about that, as I am about Vera beating Mir.

And I still think Hughes would beat Diego. In a few years Diego would have a shot though.
But if GSP stays at WW in the UFC, I don't see Diego ever holding that belt.

Originally Posted by AllAboutTheGame

all fighters have excuses after their lost
that is their way to deny the fact that the other fighter is better than he is
get use to it~
it wouldn't even be shocking if BJ say his spine skull ribs hand legs were all broken after the second round... jee

You can't honestly think the better fighter won on Saturday. I think BJ made it clear that he is a better technically skilled fighter.
Maybe he was gassed, I don't know, but i've never seen that drastic a change in performance from one round to the next....i have trouble believing it was just fatigue. :sport-smi

Originally Posted by Ryduce

I also think Penn should fight Karo or Diaz before he rematches with Hughes.

I think BJ would pwn both of them with relative ease,but it would make for a really exciting fight to fill up a card,and it would give Penn a credible victory before the inevitable trilogy with Hughes.Diaz and Penn would probably just scrap and the fight would no doubt end in an exciting fashion.

No, I like those guys! I don't want BJ destroying them.

Did someone say Diego? It's the logical next step for Diego. He beat Karo, and Hughes and GSP are fighting each other.


Or off to lightweight for BJ (for a while)...

Originally Posted by subgenius

But, I will be honest here. Fighting is a scary business. I simply refuse to believe anyone that says that they would not be afraid to step in with BJ Penn or Matt Hughes or even Diego Sanchez. The fear may not stop or hinder you in the fight, but I will always believe that it is there.

I would not be afraid one bit to step in the ring with Matt, BJ, or Diego. ESPECIALLY if i was getting paid to do so. I'd do whatever i could, but would'nt be down on myself after receiving the asswhooping. Afterall many men FAR BETTER than i, have lost to those guys.

$$$ would be worth it in the end

Edit: Honestly, i'd be more concerned with having to fight with my shirt off, and my "glorious physique" exposed for all to see

Originally Posted by Grave

I would not be afraid one bit to step in the ring with Matt, BJ, or Diego. ESPECIALLY if i was getting paid to do so. I'd do whatever i could, but would'nt be down on myself after receiving the asswhooping. Afterall many men FAR BETTER than i, have lost to those guys.

$$$ would be worth it in the end

I wouldn't do it for the money UFC is usually paying. For Chuck's purse... sure what the hell, have the towel ready, cornerman.

I wouldn't have time to be afraid. I'd get into the ring with any of them for the money too.
I'd get put to sleep and wake up a lot richer. Can't beat that.

Originally Posted by Gooner

I wouldn't do it for the money UFC is usually paying. For Chuck's purse... sure what the hell, have the towel ready, cornerman.

This would be just a 1-fight sorta thing, not looking to make a career out of it. Whatever money i got would be worth a quick beating.

Example: For a measily $300 i'd step into the ring with Chuck. Meh bruises heal but afterwards my broke ass would be $300 richer.

Also to satisfy my curiousity of how many punches i could land on chuck before i got floored. 1? maybe 3 if i try hard?