Thread: Bj Penn

Is It Me Or Does He Not Really Care Anymore He Gaesed In The 3rd As Of Late And I Called It Then Georges Called It After I Did? He Even Said He Doesnt Like To Train Hard. Maybe He Needs To Come To A Real Camp And Train Instead Of Using His Methods...anyone Agree?

I like Penn alot, but I'm starting to think that if he's not really interested in training hard, then maybe he's in the wrong profession.

Originally Posted by stillstanding

He had me worried the first two rounds. He knocked Hughes pretty hard. It was pretty entertaining to see Hughes take Penns best shot and smile.... But yeah, he gassed. His cardio has slipped.

^^^exactly, if he hadn't gassed hughes would have lost that match. he took the hits and smilek, but how many could he have taken. bj was puttin them when and where he wanted.

I'd like to see Penn commit to the sport and train with Team Punishment. If he could bring his cardio in line with his other skills, Penn would dominate.

Hughes did good to make it out of the first 2 rounds but when it was all said and done, Hughes never won the fight, Penn lost it.

I cant believe that penn has come to his last two fights not in shape He has so much talent its a shame to loose the way he did (gas out). He had his way with Houghes the whole match mabe he will learn something from this loss like>>>>>I got my a-- handed to me by a fighter I should have beaten on a bad day becouse I wasent in shape.Like mentioned in the post above Houghes didnt win Penn laid down and lost.

As far as talent goes, BJ can't be touched. If he does get his cardio up he will own the WW and LW divisions. That though has got to be the biggest "if" in the UFC. I hope he does because I am a big fan of Penn and because Dana White does not seem to be. I think it would piss him off to no end if BJ gets into fighting form and runs through two weight classes.

All these IFs. Who cares, he lost to GSP and he lost to Hughes, enough with the "if he did this" scenarios already. Does he have potential, yes, but that doesnt win fights.

Let's be honest. To beat Matt Hughes all BJ needs is enough gas for one more round because when GSP takes the title away Hughes won't get five rounds to where down his opponents.

Originally Posted by subgenius

Yes, let's be honest. BJ Penn said it in the interview before the fight. We all know what his mindset is with regards to cardio training. He is not going to change. He thinks that he can KO everyone in round one, so why train for more than that. Even after two devastating losses, I am betting he still is as arrogant and foolish (about cardio) as he was before these last two fights.

BJ Penn needs a hell of a lot more than simple cardio training. His striking last night was dreadful (he even eye-poked again, which made GSP visibly angry as they showed his reaction). And, since when did Hughes NEED five rounds? He beat Gracie in round one. He beat Penn in round three. In fact, Hughes has NOT gone five full rounds since 2003 against Sherk, and that was the ONLY match for Hughes that went five rounds.

What is it that Matt Hughes showed last night that makes you think he would win against a fresh BJ Penn. Cardio is the one thing BJ needs. When he had gas he fought hard. It was not some kind of mental block. He just didn't have the energy for three rounds, let alone five. Maybe it was the short notice, maybe it was his training methods, but it still in one adjustment. After that, he will run the division.

Originally Posted by subgenius

Yes, let's be honest. BJ Penn said it in the interview before the fight. We all know what his mindset is with regards to cardio training. He is not going to change. He thinks that he can KO everyone in round one, so why train for more than that. Even after two devastating losses, I am betting he still is as arrogant and foolish (about cardio) as he was before these last two fights.

BJ Penn needs a hell of a lot more than simple cardio training. His striking last night was dreadful (he even eye-poked again, which made GSP visibly angry as they showed his reaction). And, since when did Hughes NEED five rounds? He beat Gracie in round one. He beat Penn in round three. In fact, Hughes has NOT gone five full rounds since 2003 against Sherk, and that was the ONLY match for Hughes that went five rounds.

Boy you had some rose colored glasses on didn't you? Who here thinks if BJ hadn't gassed Matt Hughes not only loses, but get's the living crap beat out of him? I'll go first, ME.
Matt Hughes is the greatest champion in that division, yes. Hughes is the greatest survivor, yes. Is he the best fighter? Nope. Before BJ gassed all I could think was this is the best fighter I've ever seen. He made Hughes look silly, and his punches were dreadful? Then why did Hughes cry for a time-out after getting punched in the eye. That's right, punched. I didn't see a thumb, it was a knuckle. He should have never got the time-out. Hughes was on his way to a loss, BJ simply ran out of gas. Better cardio, yes. Better fighter, no. He won the fight tho, can't take that from him. You gotta have a full tank against Hughes, that's for sure.

Nobody is questioning the outcome of the fight or saying that Hughes didn't deserve to win. We are talking about BJ and what he needs to do. If he makes the adjustment needed he can beat Hughes, GSP, and anybody else. Maybe he will, maybe he won't, but the fact remains that if he didn't gas against GSP he probably would have won and if he didn't gas against Hughes he definitely would have won.