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Old 01-14-2007, 02:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Rampage vs. Chuck rematch **yet to happen** but any thoughts?

please note: the rematch has yet to happen or even contracted to happen.

but, i am sure it is all but guaranteed.

that said, this may be one of the biggest fights in ufc history, so long as they can build up rampage.

i cant help but wonder if rampage was brought in solely because of the void of championship competition in the LHW weight class.

also, rampage is the last defeat that chuck has yet to avenge.

chuck is also a bit older than he was the first time, but also much more experienced. rampage, on the other hand, arguably hasnt fought a fighter with chuck's ability or credentials.


either way, i think it will be a helluva fight, and i am almost tempted to say that rampage has a great chance of walking out with the belt.

so, any thoughts? who would win, and what is teh key to success for each combatant?
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Old 01-14-2007, 03:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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rampage has been on the decline after chute box got ahold of him. Guy is no longer the same fighter but maybe the change of organizations will help him. While chuck has been on a terror, and has improved greatly since the rampage loss. Now chuck moves side to side creating great angles in his favor. I see chuck ko'ing rampage but I will rooting for rampage the whole way.
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Old 01-14-2007, 03:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah, Chuck will be the favourite.
He's improved since their fight, and Page has been a shadow of his former self.

It'll be interesting to see how he does in the division besides the title shot too.
Shame he won't fight Tito most likely.
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Old 01-14-2007, 04:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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well, he obviously has a chance on chuck, but this will be a little tricky to call untill we see what happens when rampage has a few fights in the UFC.


BUT

when you watch the rampage-chuck fight, rampage was tagging him with wild overhand rights and when he got him down chuck couldn't get up because there's no cage.
tito tried to use those overhand rights but as we all saw, chuck was ready for them.

so i honestly think chuck will be really really ready and should be able to defend the loss in better shape than we've ever seen him
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Old 01-14-2007, 05:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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IMO Chuck wins the rematch but I think that eventually they will hae a rubber match and by that time Chuck IMO would be on a decline so I think Rampage could win the rubber match.
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and i guess overhand lefts aswell....

i'm sure chuck will be ready, and it'll be a great fight
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Old 01-14-2007, 06:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 01-14-2007, 06:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
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C'mon Ryduce those clips are painful for me to watch...Chuck looks really winded and lethargic in the stand up. I think his footwork has improved since then, hopefully its enough to make the difference.
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Sorry,but now that the Tito fight is over I can go back to hating Chuck Liddell.

It's funny wathcing Yvel toy with him.
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Old 01-14-2007, 06:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Love those clips, Ryduce. If we're lucky the rematch will be the same as this, or worse.
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you guys are crazy. jeremey horne, a contender, what a joke. contenders stay put and fight the best competition. Chuck has to beat someone other than tito, babulu, and a 43 year old couture to be a great champion. Until he comes to pride and does some damage there, anyone who knows anything at all about MMA wont consider him great. IF dana thinks his fighters r as good as he says they r, why doesnt he put his money where his mouth is
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i dunno, i think that tito tagged chuck far more often that i expected him to. as did many of the people here at fight forum. many of us said that chuck didnt look great--kinda sluggish, less active, and less hungry. at first i thought he might have been a bit tentative out of respect for tito, and that may well still be the case, but there is also the possibility that chuck may have lost a step.

also,i think that rampage has still performed well as of late, but maybe not nearly often enough. he beat lindland, but has fought sporadically in the last year or so. now that he has a home, perhaps the rampage of old will reappear.

in the first fight between these two, rampage wasnt afraid to throw with chuck, tire him out, and impose his will. when randy beat chuck the first time, he almost mirrored ramages gameplan (to some extent). chuck may have gotten better, but history has suggested that it rewards those who can stand, exchange, and make chuck work.

the funny thing i noticed from ryduces clips was how rampage was unrelenting, and throw some really ugly overhead sweeping punches which seemed to have caught chuck off guard--almost chuck liddellish punches.

lastly, i think that rampage's style may be a nightmare for chuck. rampage is a big and powerful dude who can throw the leather, eat the leather, and can also wrestle. someone said a few threads back that a fighter with a good chin and exceptional striking skills could beat chuck (maybe bomber or jonny, i forget). i think that rampage is the best hope for a ufc fighter to beat chuck. he has wrestling skills, he has heart, and he can throw, but most improtantly, he is simply a tough ****in guy!!
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you guys are crazy. jeremey horne, a contender, what a joke. contenders stay put and fight the best competition. Chuck has to beat someone other than tito, babulu, and a 43 year old couture to be a great champion. Until he comes to pride and does some damage there, anyone who knows anything at all about MMA wont consider him great. IF dana thinks his fighters r as good as he says they r, why doesnt he put his money where his mouth is

Does this have to become another argument about whether Chuck is a great champion or not?? He may or may not have faced the best competition, but in no way were they chumps. The UFC lines up the fighters and over the past 3 years Liddell has (T)KO'd everyone put in front of him...thats something that can't be said about Wandy or Shogun.
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you guys are crazy. jeremey horne, a contender, what a joke. contenders stay put and fight the best competition. Chuck has to beat someone other than tito, babulu, and a 43 year old couture to be a great champion. Until he comes to pride and does some damage there, anyone who knows anything at all about MMA wont consider him great. IF dana thinks his fighters r as good as he says they r, why doesnt he put his money where his mouth is
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you guys are crazy. jeremey horne, a contender, what a joke. contenders stay put and fight the best competition. Chuck has to beat someone other than tito, babulu, and a 43 year old couture to be a great champion. Until he comes to pride and does some damage there, anyone who knows anything at all about MMA wont consider him great. IF dana thinks his fighters r as good as he says they r, why doesnt he put his money where his mouth is
excellent post. welcome to fight forum and i trust that you will show the members more respect than you wanna give the fighters.

by the way, can fedor be great because he hasnt beaten tim sylvia, couture, or even AA?

or how about any fighter ever in the history of the universe who hasnt had the chance every other fighter in the universe, can we at least say that they arent the worst things ever in the history of ever???

and oh yeah, money is very, very dirty, so it would be gross to put his mouth where his money is (they have actually found traces of poop on most bills )
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I get a kick, no pun intended, out of the Chuck Liddell haters on this site. I keep asking myself, why? Because he wins, over and over? Because he dominates, over and over? Because he's the baddest man on the planet? It isnt Chuck's fault that there is no one that can beat him in the LHW division. He fights whoever Dana puts in front of him, dominates them, and waits to see who's next to get KO'd. Chuck's the frickin man and IS a great champion. No one can deny that. And he when he beats Rampage later this year, are the haters STILL going to say he hasnt proved himself?...
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I get a kick, no pun intended, out of the Chuck Liddell haters on this site. I keep asking myself, why? Because he wins, over and over? Because he dominates, over and over? Because he's the baddest man on the planet? It isnt Chuck's fault that there is no one that can beat him in the LHW division. He fights whoever Dana puts in front of him, dominates them, and waits to see who's next to get KO'd. Chuck's the frickin man and IS a great champion. No one can deny that. And he when he beats Rampage later this year, are the haters STILL going to say he hasnt proved himself?...
to be fair, though, he hasnt beaten any one from the thundercats...what, he hasnt
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I think rampage wins simply because chucks hasnt fought anyone who could hurt him with a punch in a long time. And whoever said Tito couldnt do anything with those punches watched a different fight. Tito is a grappler who hates to be on his feet and really was just trying to not get knocked out. Rampage is not afraid of Chuck and he hits much harder than tito. if tito could land those punches whats gonna happen when its rampage throwing those punches?? And Rampage fought a whole slew of strickers while in pride. He has no fear(remember the multiple KO's from Wandy he just kept coming)....I cant wait to see this fight. It should be one of the best fights ever
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I think rampage wins simply because chucks hasnt fought anyone who could hurt him with a punch in a long time. And whoever said Tito couldnt do anything with those punches watched a different fight. Tito is a grappler who hates to be on his feet and really was just trying to not get knocked out. Rampage is not afraid of Chuck and he hits much harder than tito. if tito could land those punches whats gonna happen when its rampage throwing those punches?? And Rampage fought a whole slew of strickers while in pride. He has no fear(remember the multiple KO's from Wandy he just kept coming)....I cant wait to see this fight. It should be one of the best fights ever
very well said. i think that you summed up everything that i was trying to say.

i really think that rampage will take this fight. i think that chuck beats many of his opponents mentally through fear before the fight starts. rampage fears no fighter, and it is gonna make for a long day for the iceman.
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