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Lets see if I can do one in each weight class.
Overrated:
HW: Not really sure anyone could possibly overrated in the UFC HW division...maybe Vera
LHW: Tito Ortiz (although his last fight with Chuck impressed me a great deal)
MW: David Terrell
WW: Josh Koscheck
LW: Melvin Guillard
Underrated:
HW: Assuerio Silva
LHW: Sam Hoger
MW: Yushin Okami/Trevor Prangley
WW: Karo Parisyan/Jon Fitch
LW: Jorge Gurgel
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01-21-2007, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by lvsuspect
Off what 2nd rate magazine did you get that off of? He has 23 fights under his belt and has lost 2 of them. He has beat a lot of great fighters. If we are going to debate this then it should be in another topic, but that is my thoughts on it.
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MMAWeekly's rankings are surely the most respected MMA-rankings. That's where I got it from.
And I bet the majority of fans rate him even higher than #5, and he's already above guys like Henderson and Denis Kang. Generous. Therefore, he's definitely not underrated imo.
As for him beating "a lot of great fighters"...
If they are so great, how come none of them is in the top 10?
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01-21-2007, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Gooner
As for him beating "a lot of great fighters"...
If they are so great, how come none of them is in the top 10?
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what are you talking about? quarry, tanner, shamrock, dewees, reed, the list goes on and on.
quit ******** and quit hatin!! 
i, too, believe rich is incredibly overrated. when i made my list a few pages back, he completely slipped my mind, but yeah, i was always surprised by how high he was ranked.
funny thing is, once he fought an established fighter that had better than average standup, he got the beatdown.
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01-23-2007, 11:20 PM
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Rich Franklin is amazing person he went from being a high school teacher and got interested in gettin in shape all he did was lift weights got into mma wasnt in it for to long before he got the middle weight belt and held it for a while hes a beast if uve seen his workout when he and silva go at it again he will win
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01-23-2007, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by The-Iceman-Chuck-Liddell
Rich Franklin is amazing person he went from being a high school teacher and got interested in gettin in shape all he did was lift weights got into mma wasnt in it for to long before he got the middle weight belt and held it for a while hes a beast if uve seen his workout when he and silva go at it again he will win
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i bet you a period, or three, he doesnt . |
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01-23-2007, 11:51 PM
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i bet you a period, or three, he doesnt . |
wuts a period? well i know wut a period is lol either this. or a bleeding vag lol but wut is it on this forum? duke09 i agree with u on alot of things but not this and if u think rampage will beat chuck that to lol |
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01-23-2007, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by The-Iceman-Chuck-Liddell
wuts a period? well i know wut a period is lol either this. or a bleeding vag lol but wut is it on this forum? duke09 i agree with u on alot of things but not this and if u think rampage will beat chuck that to lol
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i am literally in tears from laughing so ****ing hard. excellent work!!!
rampage will beat chuck.
and a period is generally used to end a sentence. it often serves to inform the reader that a complete sentence (subject, verb, object) and the idea it was intended to convey has been made and completed.  |
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01-24-2007, 12:47 AM
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O & U
Overrated ... Tito
Underrated ... Sherk
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01-24-2007, 02:58 AM
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Underated-Jon Fitch & Rashad Evans
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01-24-2007, 05:54 AM
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Overrated:
HW: Brandon Vera. I just don't see him being the champ, like some of you did before UFC signed Cro Cop
LHW: Rashad. His best opponent so far has been Jason Lambert (I think). Let him fight Tito, Babalu, Rampage, or even Bisping, before naming him the heir to the LHW throne.
MW: Franklin. I think Anderson Silva exposed some serious flaws in Ace's standup game. I still consider him in the top 5 of 185lb fighters, but he isn't as invincible as we thought he was.
WW: Kos. He's still just a good wrestler with sloppy standup. I promise you that once he fights a top 3 WW, he will get clowned.
LW: Sherk. Yup, the champ is overrated. I think he might be the 3rd best LW in UFC, behind BJ Penn, Spencer Fisher, and *cough* Melvin Guillard *cough*
Underrated:
HW: none
LHW: Keith Jardine. This guy has good standup, and nasty leg kicks. I could see him beating Ortiz, and maybe even Rampage. Rashad beat him on TUF, but I would love to see a rematch. And, we all know he was robbed in his fight against Bonnar.
MW: Marqaurdt, I guess. I can't really think of anyone at the moment besides him. I know that Matt Lindland was the most underrated MW in the UFC, but he's laughing his ass off at them now.
WW: Karo. He lost a war with Diego, but still brings the heat. Anyone he fights at 170 will have their hands full with him.
LW: Melvin Guillard! I love this guy! Maybe the most exciting LW in the UFC. Aside from a couple of mental mistakes, he has done nothing but impress me. With Tito in his corner, he is looking better and better every fight. I could see him being the Gomi of UFC. I see him getting a title shot very soon.
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02-01-2007, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Malf
Overrated:
HW: Brandon Vera. I just don't see him being the champ, like some of you did before UFC signed Cro Cop
LHW: Rashad. His best opponent so far has been Jason Lambert (I think). Let him fight Tito, Babalu, Rampage, or even Bisping, before naming him the heir to the LHW throne.
MW: Franklin. I think Anderson Silva exposed some serious flaws in Ace's standup game. I still consider him in the top 5 of 185lb fighters, but he isn't as invincible as we thought he was.
WW: Kos. He's still just a good wrestler with sloppy standup. I promise you that once he fights a top 3 WW, he will get clowned.
LW: Sherk. Yup, the champ is overrated. I think he might be the 3rd best LW in UFC, behind BJ Penn, Spencer Fisher, and *cough* Melvin Guillard *cough*
Underrated:
HW: none
LHW: Keith Jardine. This guy has good standup, and nasty leg kicks. I could see him beating Ortiz, and maybe even Rampage. Rashad beat him on TUF, but I would love to see a rematch. And, we all know he was robbed in his fight against Bonnar.
MW: Marqaurdt, I guess. I can't really think of anyone at the moment besides him. I know that Matt Lindland was the most underrated MW in the UFC, but he's laughing his ass off at them now.
WW: Karo. He lost a war with Diego, but still brings the heat. Anyone he fights at 170 will have their hands full with him.
LW: Melvin Guillard! I love this guy! Maybe the most exciting LW in the UFC. Aside from a couple of mental mistakes, he has done nothing but impress me. With Tito in his corner, he is looking better and better every fight. I could see him being the Gomi of UFC. I see him getting a title shot very soon.
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02-01-2007, 07:12 PM
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overrated griffen
underrated keith jardine
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02-01-2007, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Hemdoz
overrated griffen
underrated keith jardine
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cuz of their fight? |
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02-01-2007, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Malf
Overrated:
LHW: Rashad. His best opponent so far has been Jason Lambert (I think). Let him fight Tito, Babalu, Rampage, or even Bisping, before naming him the heir to the LHW throne.
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LMAO! Bisping? Talk about overrated, Bisping's the poster boy.
I disagree with you on Guillard and Sherk too. Sherk would totally dominate Melvin. Guillard's only fought cans except for Neer, and he lost that one. I love watching Guillard fight, but he's no threat for the title.
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02-01-2007, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bomber
LMAO! Bisping? Talk about overrated, Bisping's the poster boy.
I disagree with you on Guillard and Sherk too. Sherk would totally dominate Melvin. Guillard's only fought cans except for Neer, and he lost that one. I love watching Guillard fight, but he's no threat for the title.
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totally agree with you. Melvin would get owned.
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02-01-2007, 08:59 PM
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overrated :
1. Bisbing definately
2. Forrest he's hyped because of bonnar fight and cuz people love him so much
3. Tito just a little but still a top LHW in the ufc
4. Liddel great fighter but i still think he as to fight the pride guys
5. melvin guillard my favorate fighter but too immature in the fight game
underrated :
rashad
tim silvia
diego
jon fitch
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02-01-2007, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by omegamale
overrated :
1. Bisbing definately
2. Forrest he's hyped because of bonnar fight and cuz people love him so much
3. Tito just a little but still a top LHW in the ufc
4. Liddel great fighter but i still think he as to fight the pride guys
5. melvin guillard my favorate fighter but too immature in the fight game
underrated :
rashad
tim silvia
diego
jon fitch
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you're sure you didn't mean to put your underrated list starting at jon fitch??? hhahahahhahaah
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02-01-2007, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by omegamale
overrated :
1. Bisbing definately
2. Forrest he's hyped because of bonnar fight and cuz people love him so much
3. Tito just a little but still a top LHW in the ufc
4. Liddel great fighter but i still think he as to fight the pride guys
5. melvin guillard my favorate fighter but too immature in the fight game
underrated :
rashad
tim silvia
diego
jon fitch
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how can bisping be overrated??? hes undefeated, doesnt get much credit, and dominates his fights. so how is he overrated? tell me please |
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02-01-2007, 10:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LastExit34
Lets see if I can do one in each weight class.
Overrated:
HW: Not really sure anyone could possibly overrated in the UFC HW division...maybe Vera
LHW: Tito Ortiz (although his last fight with Chuck impressed me a great deal)
MW: David Terrell
WW: Josh Koscheck
LW: Melvin Guillard
Underrated:
HW: Assuerio Silva
LHW: Sam Hoger
MW: Yushin Okami/Trevor Prangley
WW: Karo Parisyan/Jon Fitch
LW: Jorge Gurgel
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Nice list. I didn't post because i couldn't think of a good list at the time, but this is probably what mine would be with one exception. I would probably replace Tito with Bisping. I think he's more overrated. |
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02-01-2007, 10:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RockemSockem
Nice list. I didn't post because i couldn't think of a good list at the time, but this is probably what mine would be with one exception. I would probably replace Tito with Bisping. I think he's more overrated.
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Why does everyone hate bisping? someone please explain this
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