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The CroCop Conspiracy
Many of you have heard of the alleged CroCop conspiracy that has emerged on some MMA blogs. The rumor is that CroCop has total allegiance to Pride and that his crossover is only to discredit the UFC until his eventual return to Pride.
Here's the theory in a nutshell: CroCop signs with the UFC for the purpose of beating Sylvia (or Couture) for the HW title. Then, he takes on and (potentially) beats Liddell for the LW title. After the conclusion of his six-fight contract, he returns to Pride having discredited two of the UFC's champions (and arguably the most popular champion in Liddell). Having proved that the UFC has "inferior" fighters, Pride gains renewed popularity. UFC reels from losing a their new two-belt champion, suffers a loss of credibility of their home-grown champions, and are out the $2.5 million they paid to CroCop prior to his popularity peaking among the general fan base.
While this theory is far-fetched at best and completely ridiculous at worst, CroCop's recent actions made me take a second look the rumor that I easily dismissed at first glance. For one, CroCop's failure to participate in both the pre- and post-fight news conferences, as well as his lack of participation in any of the UFC's pre-event marketing. Second, when questioned about his use of the Pride theme song for his entrance music, CroCop stated he had his reasons and that they were private. While far from incriminating, it did make me raise an eyebrow.
I still believe that this is BS, but for argument's sake lets assume that it is true. Will the UFC have the opportunity to buyout Pride before Mirko's six-fight contract expires? Would the UFC truly suffer if this scenario did take place?
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02-06-2007, 12:59 AM
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For the love of God can we please stop with this NONSENSE?!?!?! This is getting out of hand now.
What's next? Crocop plans to run for President and take over the world and put PRIDE in the White House???
PEOPLE GIVE IT A BREAK!!!
This becoming too much now!!!
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02-06-2007, 01:02 AM
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HAHAHA who have been coming up with these Conspiracy theories ??? They wouldn't happen to be Giant Pride fans who dislike UFC ? same guys who knock on chuck Liddell 24/7 or are these the guys who Believe Arona puts on the most exciting fights in MMA history. Everyone is entitled to there theories and opinions but once enough people start watching and cheering for there favourite fighters because of there talents and NOT for which fighting Corporation there fighting with, we will cut down on some narrow minded channel clicking fight fans.
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02-06-2007, 01:24 AM
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i heard that the crocp is gonna steal the internets and then spin it into gold and make dana white a hair wig, then, he is gonna call madonna at home and be all like: hey, madonna, shut up for a year or 34, then he is gonna solve the deficit by ****ting out golden eggs, then , he is gonna come on fight forum under an alias and then bet all of his points on chuck when he and chuck fight and he is gonna throw the fight just so he can get ubber points and then he can sticky this thread and buy a sig that is a different colour with a cool background colour, but when he realises that it wont work on mozilla firefox, he is gonna smash all the internets and then take the wreckage and build from what was the internets a bridge to japan so he can fight fedor and call pride a good place to be. then, he will smile and the world as we all know it will cease to exist.
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02-06-2007, 03:40 AM
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I think its all rubbish his contract is for 2 years or something isn't it? So hes staying in the UFC for 2 years then off back to Pride having beaten the HW and LHW champ...I dont think so. Dana and the UFC decides who hes fights and I dont think they will let him fight Liddell anytime soon.
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02-06-2007, 03:54 AM
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I'm beginning to think rather than being a secret agent for Pride, he might just be being pushed as the Ivan Drago type "villain" here...There's just too much going on for this not to be scripted somehow.
What better way than make enemies with the hardcore UFC fans?...Come out to the competitions theme song, don't do any pre/post-fight interviews and just turn the cold bastard volume up a few notches.
Now we just need the superstar fan favorite to battle Goliath...Couture anybody?
I bet Dana is laughing behind closed doors...Or I'm just helping spread the conspiracy bug around here.
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02-06-2007, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by The Champ Is Here
I'm beginning to think rather than being a secret agent for Pride, he might just be being pushed as the Ivan Drago type "villain" here...There's just too much going on for this not to be scripted somehow.
What better way than make enemies with the hardcore UFC fans?...Come out to the competitions theme song, don't do any pre/post-fight interviews and just turn the cold bastard volume up a few notches.
Now we just need the superstar fan favorite to battle Goliath...Couture anybody?
I bet Dana is laughing behind closed doors...Or I'm just helping spread the conspiracy bug around here.
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Why in the world would Dana do that...Surely he would want to good guy to win and Couture is not beating CroCop (the bad guy in your case) anytime soon, if ever. I just think Couture doesn't like the lime light so is staying away from cameras, etc.
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02-06-2007, 06:24 AM
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I can't believe no one even said anything about his interview right after he signed..........The reason he signed with the UFC was $$$$$ plain and simple he said him self PRIDE didn't try to match what the UFC offered him cuz they couldn't.
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02-06-2007, 06:28 AM
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Some people live in a WWE dreamland. The bottom line is CroCop's in the UFC because they offered him way more money and he's got a great chance to win the HW title before the summer -- something he's been unable to do in Pride. He's in his 30s now, he's got his share of nagging injuries, and he's probably starting to think about retiring in the next couple of years.
Some of these jokers think he's going to call Fedor and the Pride execs out to the octagon some night at a UFC show and they're going to laugh like supervillains as Dana White's jaw drops and his eyes fill up with tears. Come on.
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Originally Posted by duke09
i heard that the crocp is gonna steal the internets and then spin it into gold and make dana white a hair wig, then, he is gonna call madonna at home and be all like: hey, madonna, shut up for a year or 34, then he is gonna solve the deficit by ****ting out golden eggs, then , he is gonna come on fight forum under an alias and then bet all of his points on chuck when he and chuck fight and he is gonna throw the fight just so he can get ubber points and then he can sticky this thread and buy a sig that is a different colour with a cool background colour, but when he realises that it wont work on mozilla firefox, he is gonna smash all the internets and then take the wreckage and build from what was the internets a bridge to japan so he can fight fedor and call pride a good place to be. then, he will smile and the world as we all know it will cease to exist.
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Okay, this is the funniest post I've ever read here. |
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02-06-2007, 09:27 AM
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lol this is ridiculous at the most its complete bs cro cop wouldnt do that lol it might be because the pride manager guy was there i dont know but dana aint a idiot
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02-06-2007, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by KRONOS
For the love of God can we please stop with this NONSENSE?!?!?! This is getting out of hand now.
What's next? Crocop plans to run for President and take over the world and put PRIDE in the White House???
PEOPLE GIVE IT A BREAK!!!
This becoming too much now!!!
Admins where are you to monitor this NONSENSE. |
Letting people talk, thats where we are. Nothing wrong with this topic. |
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02-06-2007, 11:51 AM
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I think the most likely conspiracy is that Pride fans are pised that the UFC so easily stold Mirko and are in denial that Pride's days are few at best and in immediate jeopardy at worst.
Pride fans are just in denial that the organization isn't likely to be existing in its current form with its current fighters much longer.
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02-06-2007, 12:06 PM
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I think the most likely conspiracy is that Pride fans are pised that the UFC so easily stold Mirko and are in denial that Pride's days are few at best and in immediate jeopardy at worst.
Pride fans are just in denial that the organization isn't likely to be existing in its current form with its current fighters much longer.
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Says the guy, who was quick to give his "conspiracies" about Fedor joining the UFC at the same time with Crocop.
And again we can hear, that PRIDE is gonna die soon. Thanks for proving, that conspiracy theories suck, MTKrav.
Poor PRIDE-fans, they must be gutted. 
Honestly, I think that's another conspiracy theory. Most PRIDE-fans are also UFC-fans. Some like the other org better, some like them as much, but who the hell ONLY likes one of them? Nobody, that's a true MMA-fan imo.
Besides, why would these assumed PRIDE-nuthuggers be pissed about seeing PRIDE's former #2 HW whoop everyone in the UFC?
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02-06-2007, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by KRONOS
For the love of God can we please stop with this NONSENSE?!?!?! This is getting out of hand now.
What's next? Crocop plans to run for President and take over the world and put PRIDE in the White House???
PEOPLE GIVE IT A BREAK!!!
This becoming too much now!!!
Admins where are you to monitor this NONSENSE. |
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02-06-2007, 12:13 PM
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Says the guy, who was quick to give his "conspiracies" about Fedor joining the UFC at the same time with Crocop.
And again we can hear, that PRIDE is gonna die soon. Thanks for proving, that conspiracy theories suck, MTKrav.
Poor PRIDE-fans, they must be gutted.
Honestly, I think that's another conspiracy theory. Most PRIDE-fans are also UFC-fans. Some like the other org better, some like them as much, but who the hell ONLY likes one of them? Nobody, that's a true MMA-fan imo.
Besides, why would these assumed PRIDE-nuthuggers be pissed about seeing PRIDE's former #2 HW whoop everyone in the UFC? |
Well if you look at the fact that the only basis for the conspiracy theory is that freakin Cro COp came walking in to the Pride music?
So I guess if he walked in to Elton John music it'd mean he's gay right?
I just think the whole thing is nutty. And don't hold your breat that Fedor will NEVER be in The UFC. THere was a time Cro Cop WOULD NEVER be in the UFC.
Time will tell my friend.
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IMPOSSIBLE!!! You have to be a natural born US citizen to run for president. |
LOL...
I know I'm just adding to the "Crocop Conspiracy". |
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Originally Posted by Heatwaves
Many of you have heard of the alleged CroCop conspiracy that has emerged on some MMA blogs. The rumor is that CroCop has total allegiance to Pride and that his crossover is only to discredit the UFC until his eventual return to Pride.
Here's the theory in a nutshell: CroCop signs with the UFC for the purpose of beating Sylvia (or Couture) for the HW title. Then, he takes on and (potentially) beats Liddell for the LW title. After the conclusion of his six-fight contract, he returns to Pride having discredited two of the UFC's champions (and arguably the most popular champion in Liddell). Having proved that the UFC has "inferior" fighters, Pride gains renewed popularity. UFC reels from losing a their new two-belt champion, suffers a loss of credibility of their home-grown champions, and are out the $2.5 million they paid to CroCop prior to his popularity peaking among the general fan base.
While this theory is far-fetched at best and completely ridiculous at worst, CroCop's recent actions made me take a second look the rumor that I easily dismissed at first glance. For one, CroCop's failure to participate in both the pre- and post-fight news conferences, as well as his lack of participation in any of the UFC's pre-event marketing. Second, when questioned about his use of the Pride theme song for his entrance music, CroCop stated he had his reasons and that they were private. While far from incriminating, it did make me raise an eyebrow.
I still believe that this is BS, but for argument's sake lets assume that it is true. Will the UFC have the opportunity to buyout Pride before Mirko's six-fight contract expires? Would the UFC truly suffer if this scenario did take place?
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Do you guys really think CroCop would be that indeabted to some company to help them make more money........ Plus why would CroCop show is cards so early if it was a play by saying "keep it to myself" and not attending the meetings. To be able to fight like he does he is obviously not a stupid guy and I don't think he would show his cards so easily. Now if that doesn't prove it to you then let me tell you the more obvious reason. IT IS STUPID TO EVEN THINK OR CARE WHAT HE DOES. Just be glad he is in the UFC and enjoy it. CroCop will do what is best for him and it is his buisness. I'll just enjoy his next 5 fights and hope he resigns. |
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Do you guys really think CroCop would be that indeabted to some company to help them make more money........ Plus why would CroCop show is cards so early if it was a play by saying "keep it to myself" and not attending the meetings. To be able to fight like he does he is obviously not a stupid guy and I don't think he would show his cards so easily. Now if that doesn't prove it to you then let me tell you the more obvious reason. IT IS STUPID TO EVEN THINK OR CARE WHAT HE DOES. Just be glad he is in the UFC and enjoy it. CroCop will do what is best for him and it is his buisness. I'll just enjoy his next 5 fights and hope he resigns. |
Spoken like a true wise man.
Hats off to you Strat. This Bud's For you! 
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I don't care if he leaves after his contract, as long as we see a few good fights.
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