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The deepest cut

Travis Lutter speaks after missing weight and losing to Anderson Silva

By Mike Chiappetta
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Travis Lutter won the opportunity of a lifetime when he bested seven other middleweights to win The Ultimate Fighter 4, giving him an opportunity to shoot to the front of the pack and challenge Anderson Silva for the UFC middleweight championship. It seemed like a Rocky Balboa-type story, but real life doesn't always get its happy ending.

Instead of defeating Silva for the title, Lutter lost his chance to even compete for the belt when he failed to make weight for their scheduled Feb. 3 matchup. It was a devastating development, and one most fans couldn't understand.

How could he make such a mistake given the chance of a lifetime? Just like a fighter, Lutter didn't hide from a difficult situation. In this exclusive interview with NBCSports.com, Lutter explained what went wrong and what he learned from the mistake.



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Despite missing weight, Lutter appeared focused in the opening minutes, actually winning the first round.Q: How are you doing following the controversy and fight?

A: I'm doing a lot better. I've recovered from the weight loss, and looking back, I know I lost but I felt like I was winning the fight up until I got caught. Anyone can get caught. I'm sure Anderson has been in that situation before, winning the fight but then getting caught and submitted. It happens.

Q: In the days leading up to the fight, did you at any point think you were in trouble as far as making weight?

A: I really didn't think I was too heavy until about four hours beforehand. I knew at that time I was in a lot of trouble. I told the guys, this is not good. And the weird thing was, I was ahead of schedule on paper. We keep track of weight cuts from fight to fight. And as compared to my fight against Patrick Cote (in November 2006), we were 1.5 hours ahead as far as time.

But that's when I got into trouble, as I began to quit sweating. The weight just quit coming off. We knew we were in trouble at that point. Once you stop sweating and your body says it won't give up anymore, it's very hard to lose weight. It's painful and sucks but you keep trying.

Q: So there came a point where you physically couldn't lose any more weight?

A: Yes. At some point, your body stops sweating. So it's like, I'd be completely and totally dry in the same sauna that everyone else is dripping in. I just wasn't sweating. We tried a wet sauna, too, but that didn't work, either. I got out after 45 minutes and my weight was exactly same. It's a very miserable, helpless type feeling.

Q: Did you know you were over when you got to the weigh-ins?

A: At 9 a.m. on the morning of the weigh-ins, you have access to the official scale, so you can weigh yourself and then compare your own scale to the official one.

So I knew I wasn't making weight. I told [UFC President] Dana White I wasn't making it.

Q: What was his reaction?

A: Dana was like, 'Hey, you know what this means, right?' You could just tell he wasn't happy. But there was no one more disappointed than I. I don't want to be the bad guy.

Q: When you weighed in at 187, what did you do to try to take off the final two pounds in two hours?

A: We went back in the sauna. I was arguing with my guys, because I knew I couldn't make the weight. I told them I couldn't because I hadn't lost any weight in the last two hours and had only lost a total of one pound in last four, so how can I get any more water off? I sat in the sauna, the hot tub and went to the bathroom, and that led to a 1/2 pound loss. There's not much else you can do. You don't want to do something that will harm yourself.

I mean, as fighters trying to make weight, we're trying to force ourselves within reason. It sucked, but there was nothing I could do. I was supposed to get two hours, but they only gave me 1.5 hours. It didn't matter anyway. I wouldn't have made weight.

Q: Did you start your cut too late?

A: I was 24 pounds down from when I started. It's unfortunate. Generally, you try to come in as big as possible. I followed the same routine I'd followed before. In the Ultimate Fighter house, we had to be ready to make weight within a day, so I kept my weight lower. So this time I knew I was little heavier than normal, but didn't think it was out of reason. Cutting weight isn't an exact science. It's hard to judge. There's a fine line and I crossed over the line.

I fought six times in the last 12 months and had to make 185 each time. And I did it. Cutting weight isn't something I love. It's difficult and I made a mistake. We'll change directions from now on. I consulted a nutritionist and I'll do it differently in the future. I'll probably start making the cut from 12 pounds out.

Q: Many people took umbrage with your comment about having trouble "finding the motivation" to cut weight. What did you mean by that?

A: I think that was taken out of context. I meant that six weeks before the fight, I was having trouble with motivation, and that's only because I'd been cutting weight all year. With six fights in a year, I'd fought on average once every two months, so it was like spending the whole last year in training camp. I admit that in the beginning of this training camp, it was difficult to eat perfectly.

So six weeks out, yeah I was finding trouble with motivation. But in the last four weeks leading up to the fight, I didn't. I need to talk to guys like Rich Franklin about his diet. It takes a lot of discipline. He seems to have it down to a science.

Q: Coming down to the octagon, you appeared visibly upset. At that point, were you 100 percent focused on the fight?

A: I was focused on the fight. I was having some stomach problems leading into the fight since I'd never quite cut that much. I was a bit depleted and tried to come back from that. So I was a little uncomfortable, but I was focused on the fight.

Q: You had a very strong first round, taking Silva down and eventually getting full mount. Did the extreme weight cut have you feeling sapped of energy while trying to finish him?

A: I didn't feel sapped, but I didn't feel as strong as I normally feel. What percentage was I off? I don't know. I'm not going to claim that's why I lost the fight. I felt good enough to beat him and was beating him. But I got caught in second round. I made a mistake and he capitalized.

Q: While you were in the triangle, did you tap due to the choke or to the elbow strikes?

A: I tapped because of the choke. I was good for a long time, but then I started to go out. With the strikes, I was on my way out and he hit me with strikes so I might have moved my body positioning a little because of them. But I tapped because of the choke. I was going to sleep. I'm not beat up at all.

Q: What effect do you think this will have on your career, if any?

A: As far as my career, someone asked Dana White if I'd be punished, and he said losing the fight was punishment enough. I take that to mean I'm still fighting in the UFC. I hope I am. If they say I'm not, I'll fight somewhere else and make my way back. I'd rather fight here; I want to fight here, but I'm sure I'll never make some fans back. But for every fan I lost, I have 20 or 30 e-mailing me, saying I did great.

Q: What's in your immediate future?

A: I'm going to take a few months off. I don't want to fight for five or six months. I fight better when I have a bit longer break. I'll re-focus and see what the UFC has to say. I don't know what they'll do. I want to fight here, so the ball's in their court. But five months off for me is reasonable. That'd be perfect for me.

The bottom line is I made a mistake. I'm not the first to miss weight, and I won't be the last. I'm sorry I disappointed everyone and hopefully they'll support me in the future.

E-mail Mike Chiappetta at michael.chiappetta@nbcuni.com.
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Old 02-08-2007, 01:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Interesting. I think a few people were just forced to eat their words.
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Thanks for the post, pitbull. Great article.

The impression that I took from this article is that Lutter really doesn't have the drive or desire to be at the top of the sport.

I have never had to cut weight in my life, so I don't feel qualified to comment on his extreme weight loss. But is there anyone within these forums who has?-(I'm sure there is)

In your opinion, how much weight is too much to cut? How much weight should you be over when your cutting begins and how much time do you give yourself?

For the fight of his career (and potential paydays that could affect the rest of his life) you'd think he'd put more thought into it or hire experts rather than leave it to chance.
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Old 02-08-2007, 01:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I guess I shouldn't be so bossy. You aint gotta email him if you don't wanna

Yeah man, tapped because of the choke. That revelation made it a great interview for me.
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Thanks for the post, pitbull. Great article.

The impression that I took from this article is that Lutter really doesn't have the drive or desire to be at the top of the sport.

I have never had to cut weight in my life, so I don't feel qualified to comment on his extreme weight loss. But is there anyone within these forums who has?-(I'm sure there is)

In your opinion, how much weight is too much to cut? How much weight should you be over when your cutting begins and how much time do you give yourself?

For the fight of his career (and potential paydays that could affect the rest of his life) you'd think he'd put more thought into it or hire experts rather than leave it to chance.
20 pounds is close to the maximum amount for most people. 48 hours should be enough for cutting.
That talk about Riggs cutting 30 pounds to 170, is rubbish imo (Riggs has said so himself).

I don't get Lutter. He could have EASILY burned a few pounds of fat BEFORE starting to cut. We could all see, he still had plenty of it, at fight time. Plus, it's not hard, when you're training for a fight at the same time. Just a minor change to the diet, there.
I don't know why he had to insist on cutting 20-something pounds, he had all the time in the world.
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what a standup dude! i mean yeah he know's that he blew his chance but he is still in the game and really he didn't do as bad as i thought that he would. I don't think that he will take his next fight as lightly as he did this one ( cuttin weight wise ) and i would imagine that dana will give him another shot, IMO he did much better then Serra will do with GSP.
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The choke, eh...interesting.

About the weight cut, I don't have much experience in that department, but if Lutter had a good coach, I bet that coach would have seen this coming and averted the problem.
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Interesting. I think a few people were just forced to eat their words.
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Yeah that's what I don't get either, if you think 24lbs is gonna be close or you might not make it then start your cut at 20lbs. It's better to finishing cutting early then to struggle to make weight at all!!
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20 pounds is close to the maximum amount for most people. 48 hours should be enough for cutting.
That talk about Riggs cutting 30 pounds to 170, is rubbish imo (Riggs has said so himself).

I don't get Lutter. He could have EASILY burned a few pounds of fat BEFORE starting to cut. We could all see, he still had plenty of it, at fight time. Plus, it's not hard, when you're training for a fight at the same time. Just a minor change to the diet, there.
I don't know why he had to insist on cutting 20-something pounds, he had all the time in the world.
I know you're not saying 48 hours is enough time to cut 20 lbs. A cut is the whole process (typically weeks) of losing weight, not just the few lbs of water you drop right before the fight. Cutting for a fight is a science and takes careful calculations. You cut too fast you sacrifice muscle, too slowly and, well you saw what happened there. He was off by 1/2 a lb which probably equates to less than 100 calories a day of a miscalculation. Sux.
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I'm a Lutter fan. I like to see dominating bjj. I hope to see him fight for the belt.
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I'm a Lutter fan. I like to see dominating bjj. I hope to see him fight for the belt.
Lutter missed his opportunity. He'll never get another shot at the title. While Dana wouldn't openly punish Lutter by dropping him immediately from the UFC, he has subtle ways. I look for Dana to use Lutter as a ladder rung/stepping stone for up-and-coming fighters or banishment to preliminary bouts.

Make no mistake, Dana rewards fighters who step up (i.e. take fights on short notice, fight opponents they don't wish to fight, etc) and casually punishes fighters who don't (i.e. figherts who don't step up, fighters who don't re-sign, and fighters who pull a "Lutter). As an example, just look at TUF3. Remember when Dana asked three different fighters to step up to fight Bisping when his opponent got injured? Two of those fighters said 'no' and Ross Pointon said 'yes'. As a result, Pointon is fighting in the UFC and those two other fighters have never been invited back to fight. Dana is also rumored to hide Vera's next fight as a preliminary fight in September, if he doesn't re-sign.

Lutter won't get another shot. And I don't believe he has the heart and drive to put up with the grind to make it through the tests that Dana's going to push on him.
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That was a really good interview. I was dying to know what happened to him before, during and after the fight. This explains a lot.

Best part of this was hearing that he tapped out because of the choke, not the elbows. I didn't hear this before, maybe I was just late hearing the news. But this makes Anderson's win even more impressive.
He really quieted all the doubters by submitting Lutter, the guy who said would Anderson would not last on the ground with him.
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those of us that said Luther would lose standing OR on the ground got a lot of replies like ' what are u talking about, Travis is a master' and so on. Great revolation about the tap, thanks for the post!!
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i think that lutter should be asked to leave.

i am not a wagon jumper as i never really gave him a chance, nor did i think he was some bjj god like many others did, but i was impressed that he lasted as long as he did.

seems like an honourable guy, just not that professional. hope he does well in life.
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then rewatch silva catching him with that triangle. Or him luring him with that arm.
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then rewatch silva catching him with that triangle. Or him luring him with that arm.
And how Silva was letting Lutter take him down on purpose.
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Folks that say Spider let him take him down or lured him with the arm for an arm bar and such is less than smart..... He pushed him up off him because he was getting punched in the face. The longer arms of Spider kept him from getting KOed. IMO. Spider got into trouble agin in the second and landed a nice up kick that dased Lutter for a second and he fell into that triangle. Spider then applied pressure and finished with strikes for maximum damage and a quicker finish. . No way in Hell that he wanted to fight on the ground. But he did survive. Kudos for him... It did open up that game plan for others . Who would want to strike with him. He did look very strong on the ground. Lutter went from Full guard to half guard to side control to full mount. Thats wasn't done on purpose by spider. But spider got throught it. Job well done while in a bad situation. WD
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Sherdog fight-finder needs to change the details of his record. It shows he lost via strikes.
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