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Old 02-25-2007, 04:14 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I am getting burnt out on all the UFC vs PRIDE bull****. Everyone knows Shooto is the best.
Sorry, but my vote goes to King of Pancrase. All I got to say is Ken Shamrock.
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Old 02-25-2007, 04:33 PM   #22 (permalink)
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After tonights Pride 33 event, I really wonder if all of the Pride hype is real. With the exception of about 3 heavyweights, do you think Pride has anything on the ufc for fighters? For example Diaz, Trigg, Baroni, the Gracies, and Wanderlie all did absolutey fantastic over in Japan, Back here in the states they get their buts kicked easily. What if Mirko loses to Tim or Randy, Rampage loses to Chuck, and Heath continues to be a loser, what a statment that would make! Gomi was the shiz over in Pride and Diaz made him look like a punk tonight...I'm blown away.
1. What does Diaz, Trigg, Baronie, the Gracie family, and Wandy have to do w/ HW?

2. Butts kicked easily?

Diaz: Since 2004, he's lost to Karo, Diego Sanchez, Joe Riggs, and Sean Sherk. Those are pretty good fighters, and I don't think he got his butt kicked easily. Diaz is a tough kid.

Frank Trigg: 3 losses in the UFC. 2 to matt Hughes and 1 by GSP. Guy has crappy RNC defense. He's fought in Pride 2 times, and has one win. Doesn't do much for your argument.

The Gracies: Gracie family hasn't been doing so well in MMA since people learned BJJ.

Wanderlie Silva: All that comes off the top of my head for Wandy is losing to Tito by decision and Vitor by KO. Both some of the best in the world at the time? Not making excuses, I love both fighters, but Wandy was a little unexperienced.

Not trying to say you're right or wrong about the OP, just that the logic is a little flawed.
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Old 02-25-2007, 04:48 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I am getting burnt out on all the UFC vs PRIDE bull****. Everyone knows Shooto is the best.
Again. Aika wins the argument.

I cant go against Shooto.


There are some bad ass ##(@(@#*$&$@(!@)#)# in there.
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Old 02-25-2007, 04:58 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Mark Coleman is a pretty well groomed wrestler along with Randleman, Fedor managed to survive against them.
No crap, if you didn't know sambo is a form of wrestling. it uses submission. I wrestled with a 5X national champion in sambo. He was awesome, he had certificates for being a master of sport and everything. He said it was hard to compete with the Russians because all they do is train, eat, lift, and shoot up. (Exactly how he said it). He said that the Russians often look like they are about two weight classes up from their American counterparts. If this guy ever decided to pursue MMA he would be a beast.

I know someone will ask his name is Doug Fournet
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Pride up to snuff? Not at all.

Dana White does considerably more snuff, than the President of Pride.
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pride i hate your unpredictablity
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I am getting burnt out on all the UFC vs PRIDE bull****. Everyone knows Shooto is the best.
Damn right! Shotos for the win!

Ryu, Ken Masters, Dan Hibiki, Akuma, Sean, and Sakura(well she's an honorary shoto).
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Old 02-25-2007, 05:12 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Pride up to snuff? Not at all.

Dana White does considerably more snuff, than the President of Pride.
That may be. But not nearly as much crack and meth than that freakin screaming chick announcer on Pride.

MAN Please STFU lady!

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1. What does Diaz, Trigg, Baronie, the Gracie family, and Wandy have to do w/ HW?

2. Butts kicked easily?

Diaz: Since 2004, he's lost to Karo, Diego Sanchez, Joe Riggs, and Sean Sherk. Those are pretty good fighters, and I don't think he got his butt kicked easily. Diaz is a tough kid.

Frank Trigg: 3 losses in the UFC. 2 to matt Hughes and 1 by GSP. Guy has crappy RNC defense. He's fought in Pride 2 times, and has one win. Doesn't do much for your argument.

The Gracies: Gracie family hasn't been doing so well in MMA since people learned BJJ.

Wanderlie Silva: All that comes off the top of my head for Wandy is losing to Tito by decision and Vitor by KO. Both some of the best in the world at the time? Not making excuses, I love both fighters, but Wandy was a little unexperienced.

Not trying to say you're right or wrong about the OP, just that the logic is a little flawed.
1. WTF? nothing.
2. Diaz never faught Hughes or Gsp and couldnt beat the 5 fighters below them.
3. Trigg couldnt beat the top fighters in the UFC organization.
4.Gracies have been fine in Japan, and just because someone trains in BJJ dosnt mean theyre even close to the Gracies...few are.
5. Tito was young as well as vitor.
6. My view isnt flawed its your interpertation that is.
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each organization is going to have its ups and downs pride is just on a constant roll haha
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