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Old 04-04-2007, 10:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok so knowing that Chuck has Tito's #. What does the UFC do with Tito if he strings together a 4-5 fight winning streak? Say he fights Evans, Jardine, Sobral, Griffen, and whoever. Does he fight Chuck a 3rd time if Chucks the champ?

Lastly, If someone beats Chuck, either Rampage or I'm hearing Rumors of Shogun, does the UFC throw Tito a title shot sooner say after 1 or 2 wins, I mean he's a huge draw for them... I know he and 'page say they don't want to fight each other but I'm sure if the Chedder is right and its for the belt they'll do it...
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Ok so knowing that Chuck has Tito's #. What does the UFC do with Tito if he strings together a 4-5 fight winning streak? Say he fights Evans, Jardine, Sobral, Griffen, and whoever. Does he fight Chuck a 3rd time if Chucks the champ?

Lastly, If someone beats Chuck, either Rampage or I'm hearing Rumors of Shogun, does the UFC throw Tito a title shot sooner say after 1 or 2 wins, I mean he's a huge draw for them... I know he and 'page say they don't want to fight each other but I'm sure if the Chedder is right and its for the belt they'll do it...
They make Tito fight the top contenders for the title to see if they are ready for the opportunity for a title fight. Like Rashad Evans or Jardine should be fighting him soon hopefully. If no 1 beats Tito he may get another shot at the title but not a while to come yet.

The top contender will get a shot at the title first (depending on the time) then other top contenders in the division fight and see who the winner is then they normally will fight for the title.

If that made any sense.
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:38 AM   #3 (permalink)
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well, another one of my world famous predictions is as follows....

chuck beats rampage, moves to HW, and allowing for the UFC to do a pride style LHW tourney for the vacant belt!
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I think Tito will fight his way back into contender again. He draws a big crowd every time he fights, that may help him.
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Yeah, he might fight for the title again.
At KOTC or something like that.


He might draw a big crowd, but that won't help him when he's facing a top LHW.
Rashad will push him far away from a title shot.
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EVen Chuck said in the UFC 66 Post Fight that he expects Tito to continue to fight and win and be a contender in another year or so. So I'd say yes. He's remained injury free and we all know continues to train hard.

He'll get another shot.
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Yeah, he might fight for the title again.
At KOTC or something like that.


He might draw a big crowd, but that won't help him when he's facing a top LHW.
Rashad will push him far away from a title shot.
I'm not too high on Rashad, not saying he's a bad fighter but I think Tito is going to show you he is not on his level....

What I mean by that is I know Tito hasn't won many high profile fights and he gets knocked for it. BUT he did go 5 rounds with Coutour and he's been in there with Chuck for a little less then 5 rounds between both fights, Ya he lost but he hung in... Honestly who else in the LHW division could do that?
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I'm not too high on Rashad, not saying he's a bad fighter but I think Tito is going to show you he is not on his level....

What I mean by that is I know Tito hasn't won many high profile fights and he gets knocked for it. BUT he did go 5 rounds with Coutour and he's been in there with Chuck for a little less then 5 rounds between both fights, Ya he lost but he hung in... Honestly who else in the LHW division could do that?
No he won't.
Rashad is just a better fighter. Better wrestler, better striker, better athlete. All Tito has on Rashad is experience and flashier entrances.
Rashad is on a different level than say Forrest Griffin or Patrick Cote. Against whom Tito didn't exactly impress.

Are you asking who could get dominated by Randy for 5 rounds and then get KO'd twice by Chuck? Plenty of guys.
Tito gets knocked because his fame and wages are at a ridiculous level when you look at his accomplishments. He's one of the biggest earners (if not the biggest) in the UFC, yet I see him being out of the top 10 at LHW real soon.
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No he won't.
Rashad is just a better fighter. Better wrestler, better striker, better athlete. All Tito has on Rashad is experience and flashier entrances.
Rashad is on a different level than say Forrest Griffin or Patrick Cote. Against whom Tito didn't exactly impress.

Are you asking who could get dominated by Randy for 5 rounds and then get KO'd twice by Chuck? Plenty of guys.
Tito gets knocked because his fame and wages are at a ridiculous level when you look at his accomplishments. He's one of the biggest earners (if not the biggest) in the UFC, yet I see him being out of the top 10 at LHW real soon.
OK tell me a guy that Randy doesn't finish at LHW besides Chuck? Maybe Rampage, outside of that I can't think of one.. HE did get Tko'd by Chuck yes, (not ko'd) However who makes it out of the 1st round with Chuck usually? The list is rather short...
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OK tell me a guy that Randy doesn't finish at LHW besides Chuck? Maybe Rampage, outside of that I can't think of one.. HE did get Tko'd by Chuck yes, (not ko'd) However who makes it out of the 1st round with Chuck usually? The list is rather short...
That's speculation, but I think there's a lot of guys like that.
Randy isn't the best finisher out there. He dominated Sylvia too for 5 rounds without getting the finish.

Making it out of the first round doesn't matter one bit. He has a somewhat hard head, who cares. He was just surviving until the inevitable.
Surviving longer than most against Chuck (not longer than Jeremy Horn though) doesn't help him against other opponents. Yes, he lasted longer against Chuck than Randy did. Randy still spanked his ass.
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i don't see Tito fighting for the UFC LHW title again. there are too many talented up and comers that are will give an essentially old-school Tito Ortiz too much trouble. its not that Tito is'nt talented, it is that he is predictable and not great in any one area, with his standout being his cardio but he is no longer the only fighter who can claim to be a cardio machine.
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No he won't.
Rashad is just a better fighter. Better wrestler, better striker, better athlete. All Tito has on Rashad is experience and flashier entrances.
Rashad is on a different level than say Forrest Griffin or Patrick Cote. Against whom Tito didn't exactly impress.

Are you asking who could get dominated by Randy for 5 rounds and then get KO'd twice by Chuck? Plenty of guys.
Tito gets knocked because his fame and wages are at a ridiculous level when you look at his accomplishments. He's one of the biggest earners (if not the biggest) in the UFC, yet I see him being out of the top 10 at LHW real soon.
experience is a big thing... especially in big time fights, which rashad has had 0 of....
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Tito Ortiz is so washed up, at such a mildly young age. Tito's "prime" came and went in the span of about 5-6 years.

Stick a fork in'em, he is done, and will never hold a UFC title again.
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OK tell me a guy that Randy doesn't finish at LHW besides Chuck? Maybe Rampage, outside of that I can't think of one.. HE did get Tko'd by Chuck yes, (not ko'd) However who makes it out of the 1st round with Chuck usually? The list is rather short...
i thought that tito and randy went to a decision.

tito may get another fight contract, but i doubt he will get a shot again. even aside from the competition, he pissed dana off in a big way, again.

he wont fight dana, he wont fight for the belt.

i think that tito is now the gatekeeper...are you the keymaster??? (ghostbusters, btw)

anyway, tito puts asses in the seats, but i think his fans are even getting tired of him, and he doesnt really evolve when the sport around him does, and he has his own yoko ono...tito is done, imo.
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They tried to stick a fork in TIto 2 years ago when he had the 1year holdout.

Then he beat every guy they put in front of him. Starting with Vitor.

Tito can win. His style of fighting maybe not as exciting because he's a GNP guy who wants to wear you down, but he can still win with that style. I don't think Rashad, Forrest, Jardine, etc are experienced enough yet to beat a guy like TIto.

With Randy COuture recapturing the HW title at 43, nobody should ever call someone washed up anymore. Especially when that someone is a Tito Ortiz who totally commits his whole life to training.
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They tried to stick a fork in TIto 2 years ago when he had the 1year holdout.

Then he beat every guy they put in front of him. Starting with Vitor.
vitor is the only one that's worth a damn and it was only to a split. he COULDN'T finish Cote for christ's sake. even Joe Doerksen and Travis Lutter finished cote. then he get's a hair thin win on forrest griffin and beats up shamrock who has yet to work on his ground game and suddenly he's the bomb?

pah-lease.
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I think he will be "the gatekeeper" for a while but i dont see rashad or jardine beating him at all. I see tito stomping through jardine having a tiny bit of trouble with evans but still winning. Then depending on if rampage or chuck has the title he could but only mabey.
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The dude backed out of a fight with Dana White...I repeat, Dana f'en White! Either tito was scared or dana was just too young for ortiz to fight.

You heard it here first, in 4-5 years: Ortiz Vs White- Its on!
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:41 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Ortiz will be back for more in about a year or so, in the mean time we get to see him beat down Rashad :P
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Ortiz will be back for more in about a year or so, in the mean time we get to see him beat down Rashad :P
I don't know dude, in Rashad's last interviews he was looking kinda tired.

Tito might want to train extra hard in case he has a blanket thrown on him during the match.
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