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Old 04-11-2007, 04:51 PM   #21 (permalink)
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It's funny how people have a negative opinion of Tito's fight game but both Kendall Grove and Mike Bisping credit Tito for taking the skills to the next level.
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:29 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I was very impressed with Grove, that sub was sick and he has improved immensely and i cant wait to see him fight again in the next couple of months.
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:29 PM   #23 (permalink)
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It's funny how people have a negative opinion of Tito's fight game but both Kendall Grove and Mike Bisping credit Tito for taking the skills to the next level.
I don't believe I've heard anyone criticize Tito's coaching. Tito's a great coach and a great business man, and he used to be a great fighter, back when other MMA fighters weren't as skilled as they are now.
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:07 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I don't believe I've heard anyone criticize Tito's coaching. Tito's a great coach and a great business man, and he used to be a great fighter, back when other MMA fighters weren't as skilled as they are now.
i would add that there isnt just tito coaching in that camp, but also other trainers.

it does seem starnge though that grove is so wonderfully talented but tito is still one dimensional.

maybe grove is still young enough to groom and tito is too old (pridefull) to change.

btw, i am assuming grove is still with punishment, i may be wrong.
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:13 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I don't believe I've heard anyone criticize Tito's coaching. Tito's a great coach and a great business man, and he used to be a great fighter, back when other MMA fighters weren't as skilled as they are now.
one dimentional fighters just end up losing, not much you can do when everyone knows your gameplan for every fight

sorry tito.
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:56 PM   #26 (permalink)
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what was the sub he used called?
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:59 PM   #27 (permalink)
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one dimentional fighters just end up losing, not much you can do when everyone knows your gameplan for every fight

sorry tito.
so you would say all he does is take people down and beat them, because thats what i always see Tito doing or at least try to do.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:14 PM   #28 (permalink)
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so you would say all he does is take people down and beat them, because thats what i always see Tito doing or at least try to do.
That's basically what he does in every fight. Or he'd trade punches and fight a little standup battle to set up his takedowns, like he did last time with Chuck Liddell.

It wouldn't be so bad if Tito did this effectively, and kept winning all his fights, especially against tougher opponents. But this isn't the case.
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:48 AM   #29 (permalink)
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i was thinkin a jason mcdonald fiight would be a good next move

but im afraid that if he loses again (which i think i would against kendall) it would be the beginning of the end of his UFC stay for a little while
Since Grove is on a win streak shouldn't he fight someone coming off a win instead of a loss like MacDonald?

I think Okami should be his next fight.
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:08 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Since Grove is on a win streak shouldn't he fight someone coming off a win instead of a loss like MacDonald?

I think Okami should be his next fight.
Okami is in line for a title shot. No way they push Grove up that quickly.

Grove hasn't earned a contender as an opponent yet. Belcher was just starting out, like Grove. Now Kendall needs a mid-carder to prove he can hang there.
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:19 AM   #31 (permalink)
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truth. cant wait for another one if his fights
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:24 AM   #32 (permalink)
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i would add that there isnt just tito coaching in that camp, but also other trainers.

it does seem starnge though that grove is so wonderfully talented but tito is still one dimensional.

maybe grove is still young enough to groom and tito is too old (pridefull) to change.

btw, i am assuming grove is still with punishment, i may be wrong.
Afaik Grove is no longer with team punishment. At least not in his prep for his last fight, might just be temporary I don't know.
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:15 AM   #33 (permalink)
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i was most impressed with grove out of the whole night he improved a lot,
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Old 04-19-2007, 06:56 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Afaik Grove is no longer with team punishment. At least not in his prep for his last fight, might just be temporary I don't know.
Apparently he's with Randy Couture's camp now...
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:32 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Yeah I think Grove is good. He utilizes his size in the weight class he is in and is doing just fine.
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:42 AM   #36 (permalink)
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He's obviously still got something to do with Tito's camp. I mean the guy Rocks Tito's shorts and does the Grave Digger thing after all his fights still...
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:41 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Well he's not with Team Punishment any longer, the ritual he had before and might just hold on to it (even though he shouldn't )
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