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SWIBC · 05-12-2006, 09:01 AM

I am curious as to who they bring back, I hope it is the British guy, but unfortunately I think we might be having a Team Dic... I mean Dagger reunion.
Also there is some mad jealousy and cheapshots going on by the guys towards Matt. Seems like a bunch of Juvenile Delinquents in the house for the most part. I hope Matt advances and slams Bisping on his inflated head.

Kochman · 05-12-2006, 09:18 AM

i wouldn't mind seeing jesse come back.... i think he will take it a little more seriously once he is given a second chance.... i really hope there is no reunion between team dickhead! that was so annoying. anyways i hope it's jesse or somehow ross.... that would be kewl. that had to have been the worst episode i have ever seen..... like they could have at least showed the fight. that was an hour of my life that i will never get back... THANKS TUF.

throttle · 05-12-2006, 09:34 AM

Man when Noah was sitting in the room explaining to the guys about what was going on, and to hear some bullsh!t like that I would of busted out laughing!! P^ssy whipped f^cker!! That's a chance of a life time, especially being in the semi's.

Sensei · 05-12-2006, 09:45 AM

Man- what a rip off. Freakin Noah. OMG. My girlfriend was even calling him a pu$$y. Spending the rest of my life with a insecure, jealous, immature woman or fighting in the UFC...Hmmm....? Then we have the gay drama between Matt and Danny. Yeah I bet he wants peanut butter and jelly... smeared on his butt! Then we dont even get a fight..WTF? we didnt even get to see kendall kick Matt in the grill, or the uppercut he ate, LAME. I would have rather watched reruns of Forrests' monkey dance that watch that crap again. Also I dont think Matt is trying to be as big of an ass as he is, I think that the communication breakdown plays a huge part in that. Even though they are rainbow warriors, hes lucky to have Danny in the house.

subgenius · 05-12-2006, 09:55 AM

The Noah thing still pisses me off to no end. I don't know, maybe his girlfriend is hugely rich, has a perfect body, and does EVERYTHING that a man would want a woman to do in every possible way. I mean, this woman better have the freaking Midas touch! She better make Marilyn Monroe and every top model and hot babe on the planet look like King Kong. She better be the be all and end all of awesome babeness. I mean right off the scale of Wayne's World babe-o-meter.

I think that better be the case. What else could make a man give up a six-figure UFC contract after winning his first match on national TV. I guess it would be romantic for Noah to tell his GF that he gave up a huge oppurtunity for her... WTH? That is just stupid. I just do not believe it! I think that this was just yet another one of Dana White's ploys to screw with the people watching. I bet Noah left the show for ratings or to cause controversy.

If they bring back Jesse, then I may stop watching the show until the finale. I mean, this whole season has been nothing but a huge joke. The fights have not been that great. The drama is very faked. They seem to be even milking the Matt-Danny thing...

By the way, I was wondering about Matt. Last night I thought he was going to quit for sure. Not that he could not take the pain or the hard hits. That was nothing, IMO. He did not look hurt at all, IMO. What I saw was a guy in trouble mentally because he trusted his team and they tried to really hurt him. Granted, Matt was also pushing too hard, but I think that is due to the communication problems. The guy cannot hear. The translator is not an MMA fighter. I think that Matt is still not getting the right directions.

When he came back from the hospital, to me he looked depressed. It seemed like he finally realized that the other guys in the house are NOT his friends -- except for Danny, and maybe one other guy (and, of course, Tito Ortiz). Besping and Kendal showed that to be true with all their taunting and BS about whinning about Tito not showing them special favors. And, that prick Ed taunting Matt and Danny was just BS.

I think that Tait began to realize that Matt was getting a raw deal by the other guys. Tait seemed to change his tune towards the end of this episode. And, it seemed like he and Ken Shamrock connected. I actually think that Tait will become a better fighter for this...

SmashingMachine · 05-12-2006, 09:59 AM

I think Dana White needs to start factoring in people's maturity levels into the fighter selection equation. Practically the whole bunch of them act like a bunch of high school thugs. Noah's an idiot for going home over a girl; who he's only been dating six months to boot. He just blew the opportunity of a life-time. Tait's little bitch/whine session further illustrates how immature these guys are. Not to mention how the guys around the house were acting toward Matt. "Gee, lets piss and moan because the deaf guy gets more attention than us. Then let's poke fun at him to boot." What a bunch of immature little boys.

subgenius · 05-12-2006, 10:06 AM

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I think Dana White needs to start factoring in people's maturity levels into the fighter selection equation. Practically the whole bunch of them act like a bunch of high school thugs. Noah's an idiot for going home over a girl; who he's only been dating six months to boot. He just blew the opportunity of a life-time. Tait's little bitch/whine session further illustrates how immature these guys are. Not to mention how the guys around the house were acting toward Matt. "Gee, lets piss and moan because the deaf guy gets more attention than us. Then let's poke fun at him to boot." What a bunch of immature little boys.

I agree.

I think the house situation on TUF has a lot to do with the breakdowns in maturity levels and so forth. That house is not big enough. They need to find a house with enough rooms for each person. It should have a huge main area. They cannot watch TV or listen to radios, but they could at least give them video games and other such diversions. That back yard is a joke. They needed to have a huge one so that the guys could really do stuff out there.

Also, we have only seen one or two excursions from the house outside of them going to the UFC gym. This was when Shamrock took his team golfing. They played it off as a "training session" -- BUT, that was BS. It was not training. The only time the guys can leave the house is when Tito or Ken take them somewhere. We only get to see edited moments, and even then ONLY if they show them to us.

This season is so obviously manipulated. They have begun to erode away the audience's suspension of disbelief...

Sensei · 05-12-2006, 10:09 AM

You would probably feel a little duped if you were there too. Granted he's hearing impaired, but hes walking around saying hes the king, he's the best fighter, and going full out in practice. I think he needed a reality check. It was hilarious that his Mom wasn't there to make him a sandwich or tuck him in, I guess that what Dannys for.And props to Tait for telling Shamrock finally how he felt. I cant believe it didnt happen sooner. Shamrock though he could ride his name and legend all through the show, what a joke of a coach he turned out to be.

subgenius · 05-12-2006, 10:14 AM

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You would probably feel a little duped if you were there too. Granted he's hearing impaired, but hes walking around saying hes the king, he's the best fighter, and going full out in practice. I think he needed a reality check. It was hilarious that his Mom wasn't there to make him a sandwich or tuck him in, I guess that what Dannys for.And props to Tait for telling Shamrock finally how he felt. I cant believe it didnt happen sooner. Shamrock though he could ride his name and legend all through the show, what a joke of a coach he turned out to be.

That was a joke. It was so clearly a joke. Only those morons in the house couldn't see it or purposely did not treat it like a joke because they are so damn jealous of Matt. You see, this is an excellent example of how the communication is breaking down. What? A deaf guy is not allowed to try to be funny. Matt finally understood that the other guys were not laughing at the joke. He apologized. Kendal gave that half-assed acceptance. What a bunch of jerks. Hey, lets all make fun of the deaf guy because he cannot hear us! THAT sucks.

JoeRoganismyhero · 05-12-2006, 10:17 AM

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Man- what a rip off. Freakin Noah. OMG. My girlfriend was even calling him a pu$$y. Spending the rest of my life with a insecure, jealous, immature woman or fighting in the UFC...Hmmm....? Then we have the gay drama between Matt and Danny. Yeah I bet he wants peanut butter and jelly... smeared on his butt! Then we dont even get a fight..WTF? we didnt even get to see kendall kick Matt in the grill, or the uppercut he ate, LAME. I would have rather watched reruns of Forrests' monkey dance that watch that crap again. Also I dont think Matt is trying to be as big of an ass as he is, I think that the communication breakdown plays a huge part in that. Even though they are rainbow warriors, hes lucky to have Danny in the house.

I thoguht I was watching a reality fighting show, not a soap opera! That was bad last night, I waited a week for that? Oh and I would have loved to watch Forrest's monkey dance for the full hour that watch that crap they fed us. I rather would have watched the fight and after the fight they mention Noah left the show. AHHHH!!!!

Sensei · 05-12-2006, 10:24 AM

Where did I post that he wasnt allowed to be funny or that it was cool that they were picking on him? The bottom line of that post was to say that once you sign up for TUF, everyone in the house are equals and enemies at the same time even tammates. I'm sry that hes deaf but I dont see it as a handicap for him if anything its probably an advantage. If I was there it wouldnt matter if you were deaf, blind, or in a wheelchair, I'm still there to win. I'm sure those guys put up with his misgivings for as long as they could. You honestly dont think that he wasn't walking around thinking he was better than everyone else? I think it would be wrong if the guys were fing with him just to do it, but I can see how he got under their skin deaf or not.

subgenius · 05-12-2006, 10:40 AM

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Where did I post that he wasnt allowed to be funny or that it was cool that they were picking on him? The bottom line of that post was to say that once you sign up for TUF, everyone in the house are equals and enemies at the same time even tammates. I'm sry that hes deaf but I dont see it as a handicap for him if anything its probably an advantage. If I was there it wouldnt matter if you were deaf, blind, or in a wheelchair, I'm still there to win. I'm sure those guys put up with his misgivings for as long as they could. You honestly dont think that he wasn't walking around thinking he was better than everyone else? I think it would be wrong if the guys were fing with him just to do it, but I can see how he got under their skin deaf or not.

Not at all. I am certain that Matt was just playing around. He is deaf, damnit. He is not up to speed with everything that is happening socially right in front of him. All the fighters in the house have had a moment of self-boasting and arrogance, IMO. Why is the deaf guy NOT allowed to play that game?

Being deaf is a handicap outside of the octagon whether you see it, hear it, or know it yourself. I bet bottom dollar that once a real match starts you will see a different Matt than what we see in the house.

What pissed me off about these wankers on TUF3 is how they walk around Matt talking about him as if he is not there... They know he cannot hear what they are saying. They cowardly skulk around him mocking the guy. It is shameful, but it makes good TV -- right?

I hope that Matt crushes his opponents. I hope that he wins the show. I hope that he makes those goons eat every word that he cannot hear them say as they mock him...

Sensei · 05-12-2006, 10:44 AM

Did you read my post above that where I said that his handicap definetley has something to do with why people are having problems with him? I have huge props for Danny for being so cool to him. (rainbow warriors)

subgenius · 05-12-2006, 10:57 AM

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Did you read my post above that where I said that his handicap definetley has something to do with why people are having problems with him? I have huge props for Danny for being so cool to him. (rainbow warriors)

Maybe it is because you seem so contradictory. In the above post you claim that being handicapped is a problem, and then you dengrate the one guy that is aware of the problem and actively doing something about it (Danny that is). Yeah, you say that you "have huge props for Danny" and then throw in that BS about "rainbow warriors" as though you know something more than what was displayed or presented on the TV show.

You did the same thing in your other post. You even go on to say that being handicapped is an advantage for Matt when that is clearly not the case. He has stumbled around socially a misfit among the other "cool" guys in the house. The one guy with any empathy or sympathy is called a "rainbow warrior" and gay or whatever else you guys want to throw in to shame the guy for wanting to help Matt.

TUF is about two teams. Danny is doing what the other team members are incapable of doing -- he's helping his team and a team member. I admit that it was presented in such a way on TV that it made Danny seem like a "Nightingale" or whatever Besping called Danny. What I actually saw was Danny trying to boost the morale of Matt -- his friend. My friends care about me. They take care of me when I need it, and I would do anything to help my friends. Isn't that what we are actually seeing?

Seriously, this was THE WORST TUF EPISODE -- EVER!

We should not even be discussing this, except that it is ALL that they gave us. No fight? THAT SUCKED! Bring back the challenges. At least then we get athletic drama and not this silly mamby-pamby soap opera high school BS at the house! ARGHHHHH!

SmashingMachine · 05-12-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sensei

You would probably feel a little duped if you were there too. Granted he's hearing impaired, but hes walking around saying hes the king, he's the best fighter, and going full out in practice. I think he needed a reality check. It was hilarious that his Mom wasn't there to make him a sandwich or tuck him in, I guess that what Dannys for.And props to Tait for telling Shamrock finally how he felt. I cant believe it didnt happen sooner. Shamrock though he could ride his name and legend all through the show, what a joke of a coach he turned out to be.

Matt was joking. The other guys are so blind with jealousy that they failed to grasp it. I don't think people should treat him extra special just because he's deaf ( outside of the sign language guy) but I don't think they should poke fun at him and act immature about things either...the way they are doing either. I thought Tait showed complete lack of respect to Ken the last night. If you have a problem, you discuss it calmly and maturely with Ken. You don't throw your little temper tantrums, act all cocky and like a little smart ass, and that's exactly what Tait did. I don't particularily care for Ken's coaching style either, but he's still the coach. He also hasn't gotten to the point he's at today by not knowing what he's doing. Maybe these guys should think about that, shut their pie holes, listen and maybe they'd learn a thing or two. Some of these guys act worse than a bunch of girls. What a bunch of Drama Queens! Like we're a danged ol' soap opera or something.

Sensei · 05-12-2006, 11:59 AM

Bless us some more with your divine knowledge!

Sensei · 05-12-2006, 12:06 PM

Sorry the Rainbow sh*t was uncalled for.. I think Matt is a pampered Mamas boy who knew what to expect from the show. Yeah he'shandicapped but he signed up for the show right? Imo he distanced himself from everyone but Danny , and I think its great Danny stuck by him as his friend. Its not my fault they edited the show like they did and the mild gay humor was the only bright spot I found this week.SORRY. I knew he was joking and by the way you took my rainbow joke you should know thateven when your trying to be funny not everyone sees it that way. I love handicapped people, sorry your boys having a hard time, I hope he does alright, but I can see how people in the house are over him. Sh*tty episode. Sorry I ranted about it so long.

Snow Patrol · 05-12-2006, 12:44 PM

Well, we once had 3 round fights so potentially 15 mins of fight time. Now we have 10 mins (if they show the fight). I hope Dana realizes that we get plenty of 'reality' from the show in the 45 mins prior to the fight. For me, 3 round fights each week gives PLENTY of time to see the reality. Hope they make that change for next season.

subgenius · 05-12-2006, 01:02 PM

Yeah, I think that we all seem to agree that the editing of TUF3 is aweful with regard to telling a story and revealing a plot. It is still a TV show, and people do expect some form of storyline -- even on a Reality TV show. Actually, I know some professors that would say, "...people do expect some form of storyline -- ESPECIALLY on a Reality TV show."

We are getting 42 minutes out of a week (or more) and that is extremely manipulative. The editor controls how we percieve the people on the show (thus we get the gay over-tones, which even I agree were there).

This season is a type of experiment with no challenges, coin toss decides fights and team control over who choses fights, and all of this BS drama. Think about the last two seasons and all the hard challenges. I see Joe Stevenson doing the crawl-around thing with Brad Imes for like 45 minutes. Did Big Daddy complain? Not that I recall. Now, all the fighters have to do is train and fight -- no challenges. And, what do we get. COMPLAINING WHINNING!

We did get a bad bunch of apples this time around. And, even Matt is an equal when it comes to that. Communication is two ways, not one. Matt MUST work just as hard to be understood as the rest of the team (granting some leeway with his sign-language interpreter). But, Noah quitting trumps all of the worst things that anyone did so far on the show. And, if Jesse is brought back because of THAT, then I will be MAD.

PghPens71 · 05-12-2006, 01:21 PM

He's gay, he was probably scared that his g/f found his playgirl collection hidden between his bed and mattress. 6 months, MONTHS. Damn...what a flamer, wah wah...